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Wow what a surprise. I doubt Apple was designing this for other designers. Or the high and mighty editors at the Verge. I doubt Ive and Federighi will lose any sleep over "designers" thumbing their nose at it.

Ironic, coming from a tumblr page using an OS 9 theme (I love OS 9, incidentally). Oh the irony... OH THE IRONY! (Shall I re-iterate again?) :p hehe
 
my 2 cents. ios7 is anything but flat - with the multiple layers this is the most 3d looking UI out there.

The icons - take them / leave them - personal choice. I bet Ive simplified them because so much graphics is going into the layers. I suspect they look totally different on a real phone with the layering going on.

Copying other OS's - everybody builds on all pervious works. The caveman who invented the wheel could complain that the car manufactures copied his ideas.

Icons too bright and colorful - use a darker wallpaper and the whole thing will have a different look to it.

Whenever apple introduces something new everyone hates it at first. Everyone thought the iPod was stupid when it came out - (its not a computer - its too expensive - there are tons of mp3 players out there) - same with the iPhone, iPad .... Their products never "draw" well - you need to see them in person to see their beauty.

just my opinion.
 
Wow what a surprise. I doubt Apple was designing this for other designers. Or the high and mighty editors at the Verge. I doubt Ive and Federighi will lose any sleep over "designers" thumbing their nose at it.

I love the one halfwit that says "Steve Jobs would have never shipped iOS7 UI as is ..."

Yeah, maybe because it's NOT a shipping product, it's a BETA. :D
 
So neither Apple nor Palm were first. But Palm did such a beautiful job of making it fun to use.

If only Palm hadn't done an exclusive with Sprint at first, and if they only made a big screened phone like everyone asked, and if they had not wasted their advertising budget on weird ads... well, who knows :)

+1. I don't use WebOS very often on my HP Touchpad. It runs Android for the most part. But whenever I do use WebOS , I cannot help but wonder about what WebOS could have been with some TLC.
 
I love the one halfwit that says "Steve Jobs would have never shipped iOS7 UI as is ..."

Yeah, maybe because it's NOT a shipping product, it's a BETA. :D

Yes, it isn't a "gold master" yet, but also Steve Jobs may or may not have agreed with them - it's pretty arrogant and cowardly to scapegoat a dead person's never-spoken or known opinion, that there is no way of proving or disproving, and hiding behind what he may or may not have thought.

It isn't Steve Jobs who is calling the shots now, so that's irrelevant. God rest his soul, he was a great man, but we must focus forwards, not backwards all the time; that's plain unhealthy in any aspect of life.

Just as with any other product, and with carbon-copy rants about new Apple products which always happen on here, I'll politely chuckle and dismiss the ignorant, negative comments, because - again - noone yet has the final release in their device.
 
My quick take without any "direct" hands on (I've seen it running one of my developers devices, but only remotely): I like it quite a bit.

Of course there's some subjective things that will click or not with folks (I'm in the former group :) ), but the new features look terrific, and the implementation looks (as I'd expect) really well thought out and executed. I prefer Apple devices for several reasons, so anything that improves my experience is welcome, and iOS7 appears to do just that. :cool:

I wish I hadn't cannibalized my 4S for parts and I'd have it up and running locally too (can't have a flaky "primary" phone).

One more thing: I'm interested to see if iOS7 in tablet flavor extends into an even more unique iPad experience (vs. the phone/pod flavor).
 
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Well, everyone has their own opinion. *chuckles*
Personally, I honestly think it looks great.

The thing that amuses me a bit is how there's a pretty vocal group of people saying they hate the "neon" and "pastel" and "bright" colors and what have you. That they know what good design is and anybody who likes the new look and color scheme has no artistic sense.

Well I live in an area that is known for its artsyness and actually live next to an art college. I've noticed that many of these artists and students wear clothes with bright, bold, and even neon-ish colors.

Obviously there is some legit issues with the icons ("girly" bright colors not being one of them), but I kind of get the impression that some (not all) of the detractors automatically think they are design experts because they own a Mac and therefore have to be "artsy."
 
And the Verge has their collective heads so far up Google's *** it's not even funny. All the tech and design snobs can hate it but I think Apple will have the last laugh. :D

And then you go to an Android or WP forum and people say "the Verge has their collective heads so far up Apple's *** it's not even funny."
 
And the Verge has their collective heads so far up Google's *** it's not even funny. All the tech and design snobs can hate it but I think Apple will have the last laugh. :D

I agree. people need to clam down and when a company seems idle, they are the most formidable. Apple has not run out of steam, they are just working hard. 
 
I agree. people need to clam down and when a company seems idle, they are the most formidable. Apple has not run out of steam, they are just working hard. 

I agree also. Apple keep their mouths shut - they seem to be actually capable of doing so, instead of bragging about something then retracting it six months later. I'd rather a silent Apple than a loud Microsoft or Samsung... or an "eternal Beta" Google, who's focus is always diluted across 10 projects at once, just so everyone looks at their products - if they're always in Beta, that means you're not finishing things off properly, and it's a poor excuse so you can just throw up your hands and say "Well, it was a Beta!"

I'd bet my money on Apple to deliver the goods - they actually care about focusing on ONE thing and doing it well.

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I actually like the icons.
I love colorful, and they are! :)

Yes! We love colour! If you want a life sucked of vibrancy, go and watch a 1930s film.
 
And then you go to an Android or WP forum and people say "the Verge has their collective heads so far up Apple's *** it's not even funny."

Very true. :). But I read through their iOS 7 article and just cringed a bit. Everyone seems to be all about function > form, yet with iOS 7 the obsession is all about the form. Most of the people hating on it haven't actually used it. I doubt the Verge spent much time with it. People rushing out knee jerk reactions based on app icon designs. Yet it's supposed to be about function, not form. About how something works, not how it looks.
 
I don't want to say that Apple was the first to use something like that, I just wanted to argue that Android definitely wasn't first, because Apple had something similar almost two years before Android was released.

I know. I was agreeing with you that WebOS didn't invent the idea of cards.

The more that good ideas are used, the more refined they get. The winner is the consumer.
 
I bring you iOS 7 :(
 

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You don't want true multitasking, because some stupid app would empty your battery in the background. You want a sort of multitasking, that emulates the effects without providing the actual technology. True multitasking is not suitable for mobile phones and other small battery devices. Apple knows that and therefore invents new kinds of multitasking. You should be thankful for that. It's called innovation. :apple:

Sorry, but this is the type of comment someone completely ignorant of current mobile operating systems would make.

Yes, I do want true multitasking, because I use it every day on my two years old Galaxy Nexus. Multitasking is one of the main reasons why my iPhone 5 is used mostly as a test device, instead of my primary phone.

My Galaxy Nexus, with its two-year old battery and rather outdated processor, all feeding a 4.7" screen, still lasts a full day and more, with TRUE multitasking. Yes, my iPhone 5 will likely get a few hours more, but it is a much newer device, with a fresher battery, more efficient processor, all feeding a significantly smaller screen. Most current Android phones are on par with the iPhone as far as battery life, with TRUE multitasking enabled.

So, enough from noobs with this BS about true multitasking draining your phone in 2 hours.

I love Apple's design, but frankly, all the excitement over the last year or so is on the Android side:

Android OS 4.2 was the version which IMO surpassed iOS.

Until recently, Android didn't have any decently designed hardware, but phones like the HTC One and the Lenovo K900 have finally brought better hardware design as well.

So, Apple has its work cut out if it wants to stay as a player in the phone world, and unfortunately, other than what is basically a new skin and a fingerprint reader, there is nothing remotely exciting on this year's horizon.

Apple will get hammered in the latter part of the year with the open source AirPlay competitor Google and Netflix are rolling out, which will inevitably lessen the appeal of ATV and even possibly the iPad (which so far is still the best tablet, IMO).

I like what I see with Mavericks, although there is no talk of touch UI, which is likely to be the "next big" thing in the the world of laptops. Apple also better watch out for Chrome OS, which is slowly gathering steam and may become a real player by 2014 (and it will have touch in the new version).

As BB and Nokia are finding out, once you lose marketshare and consumer interest, it's very hard to climb back in the game.
 
I know. I was agreeing with you that WebOS didn't invent the idea of cards.

The more that good ideas are used, the more refined they get. The winner is the consumer.

And when we get rid of software patents everyone will benefit. :)
 
It seems that everything is held up to Android, and compared to it as if Android is "The standard" of mobile OS'...


iPhone:
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Release date, 1st gen: June 29, 2007



Google "G1" (or HTC "Dream" - the first Android phone ever):
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Release date, October 2008


Android 1.0 looked like Windows 95 on release, had more bugs than an ant farm vs iPhone OS 1.0 which looked incredible, and performed amazingly, and still does.



So, to recap, the platform which was released 16 months after the iPhone was, is the benchmark?

Apple: "We make the best, not the most".
 
You say TRUE MULTITASKING as if anyone cares? .... If there is a crazy useful utterly essential thing that TRUE MULTITASKING would make possible that IOS's current multitasking capabilities do not allow, I have never once seen one of you TRUE MULTITASKING nutjobs mention it.... Please be the first one to buck the trend and explain why I should care.

First, just because you don't understand or use something, it doesn't mean that it isn't useful. I suppose you probably said the same thing about math or history while you were in high school.

Now to a real-life example of the usefulness of multitasking:

I use my phone on may daily runs. While I run, I use an activity tracker app (measures speed, distance, etc. and it helps me keep tabs on what I've done in the past month, for instance).

During my runs, I also listen to podcasts or music.

Sometimes, if I run later in the evening, I also use a flashlight app.

On Android, I can use all of these without thinking of it. If someone calls me while I am running, I can answer the call. If someone texts me or emails me, I can return the text or the email, if necessary.

On the iPhone, I can't do some of these things. Sure, I can listen to a podcast or music and use the activity tracker, but if I need the flashlight, and if I need to make a call or send a text, I have to give something up. Like the flashlight. Which is generally inconvenient on a dark trail.

So, instead of using my relatively new iPhone 5, I use my rather ancient Galaxy Nexus.

I hope this helps you understand the issue a bit better. Individual needs vary, but generally it is better to have true multitasking than not. Once you start using it, it's hard to go back.
 
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