Exactly.
If anything, this 13" MBP replaces the old MBP, while the MBP with Touch Bar is new product at a new price point.
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Apple Unveils New 13-Inch Entry-Level MacBook Pro
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If anything, this 13" MBP replaces the old MBP, while the MBP with Touch Bar is new product at a new price point.
Those european prices are getting absurd. Full spec is 5000€ and doesn't even have 32 GB Ram. My preferred configuration 2,6/16GB/512/450Pro costs 2939€. Thanks but no thanks, my 2013 15" rMBP will hopefully continue to work even without Apple Care.
Let me ask Tim.
Tim - you there?
"Yes" - Tim
WHere is the new Macbook Air?
"We’ve got great innovation in the pipeline” -Tim
Uh - you didn't answer my question
"...." - Tim
Can't figure out what was a stupider decision under Cook's Apple. Removing the headphone jack or function keys.
Also killed the MagSafe charger, USB 3.0 ports, SD Card slot, full HDMI port. So you have to get an adapter.
COURAGE to dumb down to the pro line!
Also killed the MagSafe charger, USB 3.0 ports, SD Card slot, full HDMI port. So you have to get an adapter.
COURAGE to dumb down to the pro line!
13" MBP starts at £1449 in UK? 512GB SSD 13" MBP £1949? The 15" MBP starts at £2349?
Even for the well heeled, these are insanely high prices relative to both the competition and the machines they replaced.
Will be getting another couple of years out of the late 2011 15" MBP I'm writing this on. Even the 512GB MacBook with a Core M processor and one port is £1549.
I'm just lost for words. I've loved my macs and still love my iPhone, iPad and Apple TV but I think the mac has just been priced out of consideration and possibly . Apple are making the Surface Book and Dell XPS laptops look mighty attractive.
Even for the well heeled, these are insanely high prices relative to both the competition and the machines they replaced.
Will be getting another couple of years out of the late 2011 15" MBP I'm writing this on. Even the 512GB MacBook with a Core M processor and one port is £1549.
I'm just lost for words. I've loved my macs and still love my iPhone, iPad and Apple TV but I think the mac has just been priced out of consideration and possibly . Apple are making the Surface Book and Dell XPS laptops look mighty attractive.
It is a massive price hike. Even with the weak GBP. I'll stick to my 2014 MBP for now.
I agree, major disappointment. Here's a better lineup IMHO: ditch MacBook Airs, optionally rebrand MacBook as the MacBook Air. Instead of 12", make it 11" and 13", or keep 12" & make the Pro 14" and 16". Have the updated MacBook have 2 TB ports & touch bar. Also update the screen resolution the whole lineup. Maybe 4K on the largest screen? Very simple lineup, yet still easy to differentiate the Pro & non-pro.
One thing that surprised me was that they can run not 1 but 2 5K displays, each on a single cable. Didn't know that TB 3 could handle that. Unless I'm mistaken, which is very possible.
One thing that surprised me was that they can run not 1 but 2 5K displays, each on a single cable. Didn't know that TB 3 could handle that. Unless I'm mistaken, which is very possible.
The successor that costs almost £600 more; without the new fandingled Touch Bar? Okay...
The 13" entry level model appears to have a lower power 15W CPU - the Iris 540 in this model is for lower power CPUs -- this contrasts with the Iris 550 in the 13" touch bar model which is almost identical to the 540 *except* that it has a slightly higher turbo clock and *only* comes with higher power 28W CPUs.
The 13" entry level / no touch bar model also has significantly higher battery capacity according to Apple's tech spec page - 54.5-watt-hour vs 49.2-watt-hour is a >10% battery capacity boost.
My question is, given the two technical differences above, how on earth are both models rated for similar battery life? All signs point to the 13" entry level / no touch bar model having significantly longer battery life here right?
EDIT: It looks like the exact CPUs offered here for the 13" entry level and 13" touch bar respectively are the i5-6267U (15W) and the i5-6360U (28W).
The 13" entry level / no touch bar model also has significantly higher battery capacity according to Apple's tech spec page - 54.5-watt-hour vs 49.2-watt-hour is a >10% battery capacity boost.
My question is, given the two technical differences above, how on earth are both models rated for similar battery life? All signs point to the 13" entry level / no touch bar model having significantly longer battery life here right?
EDIT: It looks like the exact CPUs offered here for the 13" entry level and 13" touch bar respectively are the i5-6267U (15W) and the i5-6360U (28W).
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Sad that after an Apple event long waited for, the best option for most users is going to be the computer they didn't update. The MacBook Air. I wouldn't be surprised if the sales on this laptop outperforms the updated "entry level" / "pro" model. Could not be more disappointed. Looking for a new laptop for my student daughter and these are just not an option anymore.
Interesting changes at the high end with the new MacBook Pro, but I think they have a real problem at the low end - oddly competing laptops at various price points: the old (really old) MacBook Air 13" starting at $999, the somewhat old MacBook Pro 13" starting at $1299, and the relatively new MacBook 12" also starting at $1299. I think they should have dropped the old 13" MacBook Pro and let the MacBook and MacBook Air compete against each other.
All anyone wanted was a macbook air with a retina screen at 999$USD.
New UK prices are insane - and not in a good way. Very disappointing.
Usually, they upgrade the product but keep the same price point. What happened?
Usually, they upgrade the product but keep the same price point. What happened?
No, not cost. They're calling it a "Pro". All Apple is doing is cheapening the meaning of that term. It's basically just a MacBook, but with a slightly different form factor and higher price.
Today at its October 2016 Town Hall event Apple announced an entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro, a perceived successor to the MacBook Air, the 13-inch version of which remains available to buy for now, with the 11-inch version being discontinued.
The new entry-level Pro takes on many of the design features of the rest of the range, except for Apple's new Touch Bar, which replaces the traditional function key strip in the rest of its new Pro MacBooks.
The new entry-level MacBook Pro is 12 percent thinner than the current MacBook Air. It's also 13 percent smaller in volume, while staying the same weight.
Apple's senior VP Phil Schiller says the new entry-level MacBook Pro is faster than the MacBook Air in "every way." It has a 2.0GHz Intel Core i5 processor, 8GB RAM, a 256GB SSD, Intel Iris 540 Graphics, a larger Force Touch trackpad, two Thunderbolt 3 ports, and a new second-generation butterfly mechanism keyboard.
The entry-level MacBook ships starting today and is available starting at $1,499. In contrast, the existing MacBook Air with 1.6GHz processor and 128GB storage and is still available at $999. The new entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro can be pre-ordered online now and will ship in 2-3 weeks.
Article Link: Apple Unveils Successor to MacBook Air With 13-Inch Entry-Level MacBook Pro[/QUOTE]
The new entry-level Pro takes on many of the design features of the rest of the range, except for Apple's new Touch Bar, which replaces the traditional function key strip in the rest of its new Pro MacBooks.
The new entry-level MacBook Pro is 12 percent thinner than the current MacBook Air. It's also 13 percent smaller in volume, while staying the same weight.
Apple's senior VP Phil Schiller says the new entry-level MacBook Pro is faster than the MacBook Air in "every way." It has a 2.0GHz Intel Core i5 processor, 8GB RAM, a 256GB SSD, Intel Iris 540 Graphics, a larger Force Touch trackpad, two Thunderbolt 3 ports, and a new second-generation butterfly mechanism keyboard.
The entry-level MacBook ships starting today and is available starting at $1,499. In contrast, the existing MacBook Air with 1.6GHz processor and 128GB storage and is still available at $999. The new entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro can be pre-ordered online now and will ship in 2-3 weeks.
Article Link: Apple Unveils Successor to MacBook Air With 13-Inch Entry-Level MacBook Pro[/QUOTE]
Well... based on the direction Apple is taking with Macbook (i.e. ultra expensive) I think my 2013 MBA will probably be my last Macbook.
Notionally Brexit & wearing UK£ vs the US$ - that was the rational for the £10/£100 price increases on devices and accessories across the board after the iPhone 7 announcement. The price increases on the MBP line are way above and beyond correcting for currency exchange rate movements. I really am wondering just how many notebook machines (not just MBP, MB & MBA too) they hope to sell to students and real people? At these prices only the very well heeled and anyone who can justify it as a business expense could consider them.
This is the end. They effectivelly killed the Mac Pros, dug the grave for iMacs and marked where they will bury the Macbooks. Apple Computers is no more and they and they rightly changed their name. Saddest day, ever.
I'm having a similar sinking feeling over my late 2011 MBP. Others have joined them in offering really good, well built, performing and easy to use machines in the premium bracket over the past few years.
