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I don't know if this has been previously mentioned but one bad thing to come out of this for people like me wishing to purchase a 13" machine..

As the 13" is now a 'Pro' the price of AppleCare has shot up!! Nearly £300 in the UK now opposed to nearly £200 for the standard macbook!!

AnDy

I knew there was more to this than what you see at first! :eek:

Enjoy your SD slot! :D
 
Having bought my non Firewire non SD slot non Macbook "Pro" ...13" Macbook in March I now have a Latop thats worthless.

I'll give you a hundred bucks for it. That's a hundred better than "worthless."

As a fan of FireWire, I'm glad to see its return to every Apple product except the Air. I love how Apple sidestepped the crow-eating issue by rebranding the two formerly FireWire-less MacBooks as Pros -- they get to fix a mistake without having to admit a mistake. Sweet.
 
Having bought my non Firewire non SD slot non Macbook "Pro" ...13" Macbook (aluminium) in March I now have a Laptop thats worthless.

If it's worthless then you can give it away to me for the price of postage, right?

Oh suddenly it's not worthless. :rolleyes:
 
Having bought my non Firewire non SD slot non Macbook "Pro" ...13" Macbook (aluminium) in March I now have a Laptop thats worthless.

Ok update the RAM, Hard Drive, Processor but giving it a new name "Pro" after 4 months and put in Firewire after saying its dead for so long Djeeesssssss

You could have at least given something to the poor sods that trusted you and bought the aluminium Macbook when it came out

Thanks Apple

Alternatively... you look at it in the way I was looking at it. you have paid less than the 13.3" MBP for a laptop that was only made for 6 months. I have a feeling that in a while the 13.3" uMB is going to be a little bit of a collectors thing, and if not its still pretty nice to have a laptop that is comparatively rare.

On top of this I have no Firewire devices, and my digital camera takes XD cards (and will be an iPhone soon) so I really don't lose anything, and consider not having all the excess useless (to me) ports an advantage.
 
Having bought my non Firewire non SD slot non Macbook "Pro" ...13" Macbook (aluminium) in March I now have a Laptop thats worthless.
You're right, if I were you, I'd head into your nearest Apple store and start stamping your feet and jump up and down until they give you a new one (or they send you to your room)

Seriously, does it suddenly do less today than it did yesterday? :rolleyes:
 
Are you dumb or ignorant?

I'm sure nanto definitely meant worthless as in zero bucks... :rolleyes:

Neither.

That laptop is not worthless by any definition of the word, nor anything remotely close to worthless.

That person could live without Firewire when they bought the laptop, but suddenly because there's a new revision their life falls apart because they don't have Firewire?

Please.
 
Seriously, does it suddenly do less today than it did yesterday? :rolleyes:

Of course it doesn't. But I can perfectly understand those that bought their MacBooks recently, since those are the same ones that would have the most to gain from this update that almost blindsided most of us.

The rumor that Apple was going to update their MacBook/Pro line become pretty dormant towards more recent times. Nobody really thought that was going to happen yesterday. Maybe next week, or in the coming month but not yesterday.

The former Pro line however got shafted in this update. Check the specs, AppleCare cost etc. Especially for those of us outside the US.

The only Pro thing around Apple now are how they manage to sell their aluminum products at gold prices.
 
bought a 2.4 GhZ, 2GB RAM, 250GB HDD 13" in December just before Christmas.

put it on ebay last night as soon as I saw the new ones and already got bids for £880 :D
 
Neither.

That laptop is not worthless by any definition of the word, nor anything remotely close to worthless.

That person could live without Firewire when they bought the laptop, but suddenly because there's a new revision their life falls apart because they don't have Firewire?

Please.

You sure mirrored that in your previous post.

Regarding how the word "Pro" seems to affect most people in attraction to buy something, I would say the MacBook for the closest couple of weeks can be considered 'worth less' but not worthless.

There, served for you. :D
 
Alternatively... you look at it in the way I was looking at it. you have paid less than the 13.3" MBP for a laptop that was only made for 6 months. I have a feeling that in a while the 13.3" uMB is going to be a little bit of a collectors thing, and if not its still pretty nice to have a laptop that is comparatively rare.

On top of this I have no Firewire devices, and my digital camera takes XD cards (and will be an iPhone soon) so I really don't lose anything, and consider not having all the excess useless (to me) ports an advantage.

I collect quite a few things but not computers, lol. My hunch is that the only reason Apple changed the name of the 13” Alum. to "PRO" is because they kept on justifying not having a Firewire port on it as this supposedly was only a PROFESSIONAL feature (ridiculous).

They probably didn't know how to backtrack on their original decision of not putting firewire on all their aluminum macbooks. Apple made a mistake and the idiots (like me) that bought the 13” before this revision are paying the price

I thought it was ridiculous not putting Firewire and some kind of slot on the unibody and resisted buying it for quite a while but as I realized Apple was insistent that firewire was dead and that USB was the way to go I ended up buying one. By the way I also bought a USB camcorder as that was the way to go lolololol what an idiot I am

Cant trust anyone these days lol.
 
although i'm not really a person who needs a bluray drive i think i agree with your points. it should be an option even if it's expensive. i don't own a bluray movie but i remember numerous occasions where i wa visiting friends and wish i could borrow a bluray movie from them and watch it. for the next three years blu ray is going to be around. and three years is the lifetime of a notebook. so it would be nice to have and maybe worth $200. students in dorms surely would want one so they can share the hundreds of blurays they have around. and no, i wouldn't rip them. way too much work.

Students buy Bluray? Obviously you've never experienced living life as a student. Blurays cost £20 over in the UK. You really think a student is going to purchase them instead of using downloadable forms whether it be legal or not? I don't think so and I was a student till last year.

Want to watch Blurays, watch them on a 32" screen. Not your laptop.

Apple are selling downloadable content through iTunes. Thats how they want to distribute their media. They don't want to implement a competing media and an old one at that onto their machines.
 
13" 2.26GHz - USA $1199 ~ £756 - Actual Price £899
13" 2.53GHz - USA $1499 ~ £945 - Actual Price £1149

15" 2.53GHz - USA $1699 ~ £1071 - Actual Price £1299
15" 2.66GHz - USA $1999 ~ £1260 - Actual Price £1499
15" 2.80GHz - USA $2299 ~ £1449 - Actual Price £1699

If you can order via the student store or NHSdiscounts.com / employee purchase program you can actually save another 6% on these prices

13" 2.26GHz - Discount Price ~ £845
13" 2.53GHz - Discount Price ~ £1079

15" 2.53GHz - Discount Price ~ £1221
15" 2.66GHz - Discount Price ~ £1378
15" 2.80GHz - Discount Price ~ £1562

Also note the US price doesn't include taxes where the UK price includes VAT at 15%

If you take the VAT off the UK price there isn't much difference
 
You sure mirrored that in your previous post.

Sorry, I must've neglected to use <sarcasm></sarcasm> tags again :)

Also, with regard to that person's lappy being "worth less" rather than "worthless", all computers depreciate quickly. Unfortunate nature of the beast. Technology advances in the computing industry move pretty quickly. One can either like it or lump it.

I understand he or she is upset but it was going to happen sooner or later.

Personally, if I didn't have a Firewire based music studio, I'd be more than happy with that laptop. I'd also appreciate (pun intended ;) ) that its value would quickly reduce as newer revisions were released.

I have a final generation black Macbook and while I would like a nice new unibody Macbook / Macbook Pro my exisitng Macbook is still perfectly usable and still worth money, just not as much as when I bought it. I don't whine about the fact the newer models have a better graphics chipset etc. That's just how it goes. I was happy when I bought it, they released the unibody Macbook several months later, I was still happy with mine.

It didn't stop doing anything that I bought it for in the first place, nor did I have any pressing need for the additional features on the newer model.

Whinging about not having the latest and greatest is futile. If you do have the latest and gretatest you won't in 6 months time.
 
Sorry, I must've neglected to use <sarcasm></sarcasm> tags again :)

Also, with regard to that person's lappy being "worth less" rather than "worthless", all computers depreciate quickly. Unfortunate nature of the beast. Technology advances in the computing industry move pretty quickly. One can either like it or lump it.

I understand he or she is upset but it was going to happen sooner or later.

Personally, if I didn't have a Firewire based music studio, I'd be more than happy with that laptop. I'd also appreciate (pun intended ;) ) that its value would quickly reduce as newer revisions were released.

I have a final generation black Macbook and while I would like a nice new unibody Macbook / Macbook Pro my exisitng Macbook is still perfectly usable and still worth money, just not as much as when I bought it. I don't whine about the fact the newer models have a better graphics chipset etc. That's just how it goes. I was happy when I bought it, they released the unibody Macbook several months later, I was still happy with mine.

It didn't stop doing anything that I bought it for in the first place, nor did I have any pressing need for the additional features on the newer model.

Whinging about not having the latest and greatest is futile. If you do have the latest and gretatest you won't in 6 months time.

Unless you have unlimited resources (I dont) everything that you invest in has to be very well thought out. When I buy something I usually scan all the forums (not unlike this one) and read about real world experiences from real users. I do invest in time before deciding.

I left Windows about 2 years ago when I bought my Imac but I had an old Windows laptop as my traveling (work) companion. I waited for the Unibody to come out but was really disappointed with the absence of Firewire, as many were. I waited some more and continued to read the Forums and Apples response like (Firewire is for PROs) (Firewire is dead) etc etc etc. I also read many comments here like (get a USB camcorder as thats the way to go) (USB3 is the future and will be compatible with USB2) (Apple will never put Firewire on the Macbook) so I bought one in March. Three months later and ... Its a PRO now its got Firewire 800 and its got an SD slot.

Should I be mad, hell YES.
 
The new MacBook Pro 13" model is pretty nice. I am liking the SD card reader, but my camera takes CF cards, so it's still not helping me really :( My own fault though.

This is definitely the happiest day of my life. This is such a deal. I just don't know what to do....

get a girlfriend.
 
Haven't seen anybody mention this...

There was a thread and a lot of discussion about how the old 13" Aluminium Macbooks would only work with 6 GB RAM. Apple only supports 4 GB, but 1x2 GB and 1x4 GB work, for a total of 6 GB. 2x4 GB is detected by Mac OS X, but the system slows to a crawl once the actual memory in use crosses 4 GB or so.

Now that the new 13" Macbook Pros officially support 8GB, won't it be possible to:
  1. Dump the EFI firmware on a 13" unibody Macbook
  2. Disassemble the firmware
  3. Dump the firmware on a new 13" Macbook Pro
  4. Disassemble the firmware
  5. Diff the results of [2] and [4] and we should be able to figure out why the unibody Macbook doesn't work with 8GB. And maybe even make a new firmware that DOES work with 8GB.

Can anybody tell me why this wouldn't be possible? I'd be willing to help on this if it is.
 
What an awesome update :). I really couldn't think anything that they could have done better. Integrated battery? I don't care. If you dream of being able to replace batteries to get better battery-life, why not use external magsafe-batterypack instead?'

The lack of FireWire in the "old" model made me hesitant to consider the 13" model, but now that problem has been eliminated. The SD-slot is a nice bonus, and you can't complain about the better screen or better specs either.

Superb work, Apple :).
 
What an awesome update :). I really couldn't think anything that they could have done better. Integrated battery? I don't care. If you dream of being able to replace batteries to get better battery-life, why not use external magsafe-batterypack instead?'

The lack of FireWire in the "old" model made me hesitant to consider the 13" model, but now that problem has been eliminated. The SD-slot is a nice bonus, and you can't complain about the better screen or better specs either.

Superb work, Apple :).

User-upgradeable RAM? Harddisk?

Otherwise, not that I'm falling off my chair but the 13"s are okay I guess. Except for them being 'Pro'... Hah, never!
 
Unless you have unlimited resources (I dont) everything that you invest in has to be very well thought out. When I buy something I usually scan all the forums (not unlike this one) and read about real world experiences from real users. I do invest in time before deciding.

I left Windows about 2 years ago when I bought my Imac but I had an old Windows laptop as my traveling (work) companion. I waited for the Unibody to come out but was really disappointed with the absence of Firewire, as many were. I waited some more and continued to read the Forums and Apples response like (Firewire is for PROs) (Firewire is dead) etc etc etc. I also read many comments here like (get a USB camcorder as thats the way to go) (USB3 is the future and will be compatible with USB2) (Apple will never put Firewire on the Macbook) so I bought one in March. Three months later and ... Its a PRO now its got Firewire 800 and its got an SD slot.

Should I be mad, hell YES.

I realise you're upset because you wanted Firewire, but does the fact there's a new model out with Firewire render your USB camera redundant? Not at all.

Are you able to get an SD card reader from ebay for 99p / 99¢? Highly likely.

When I bought my Blackbook there were rumours of an aluminium Macbook being released before too long. Turned out to be 3 months later your version was released with far superior graphics, unibody enclosure and so on but I didn't get upset because what I had suited my needs and that didn't change with the new model.

The white Macbook has been available the whole time, has always been cheaper (good for those without unlimited resources), and has always had Firewire so you've always had the option if Firewire was really THAT much of an issue to you.

You made a choice that an aluminium body was more of a desire than Firewire. The White Macbook has had the same Nvidia graphics as your aluminium model since January 09 so that wasn't a factor separating the two.

If it bugs you that much then sell it on ebay to someone who doesn't constantly keep up to date with the Apple world (and there's a lot of those people on ebay) for not much less than you bought it, then pay the difference for a new model.

Added to which as has been pointed out Apple Care on your non Pro designated model is significantly cheaper than the new one.
 
So adding the 128SSD to the 2.26 13" comes out to $1599.
Or get it standard on the 2.13 Air for $1799. Hmm.

With some pros and cons.
Pros (in favor of MBP13"):
- expandible RAM
- FW
-SD
-glass trackpad
-7 hrs battery
200 USD less

Cons (in favor of MBA):
- less weight
 
What an awesome update :). I really couldn't think anything that they could have done better. Integrated battery? I don't care. If you dream of being able to replace batteries to get better battery-life, why not use external magsafe-batterypack instead?'
Because people don't want to carry around additional kit and want to spend 10 seconds replacing their battery when it fails, rather than taking it to an Apple repair centre perhaps?
 
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