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People like getting free games. People don't like the moral guilt that comes with stealing them. People solve this conflict by convincing themselves it's not stealing, then commence stealing and playing them so many times that the neural dopamine networks in their brains gets hooked on it... rinse and repeat.

ROMS that are not distributed by their owners are stolen property, apps like these are nothing more than tools to play stolen property, and anyone who uses them are thieves... period.
 
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Sevendaymelee said:
People like getting free games. People don't like the moral guilt that comes with stealing them. People solve this conflict by convincing themselves it's not stealing, then commence stealing and playing them so many times that the neural dopamine networks in their brains gets hooked on it... rinse and repeat.

ROMS that are not distributed by their owners are stolen property, apps like these are nothing more than tools to play stolen property, and anyone who uses them are thieves... period.
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And who do you propose I pay for Midnight Rescue when The Learning Company went bankrupt in 1995?
 
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Sevendaymelee said:
People like getting free games. People don't like the moral guilt that comes with stealing them. People solve this conflict by convincing themselves it's not stealing, then commence stealing and playing them so many times that the neural dopamine networks in their brains gets hooked on it... rinse and repeat.

ROMS that are not distributed by their owners are stolen property, apps like these are nothing more than tools to play stolen property, and anyone who uses them are thieves... period.
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Didn't we just have this lesson a few weeks ago? <sigh> Here it is again:

COPYING IS NOT THEFT.


BY DEFINITION, copying CANNOT be stealing. The only way you can actually steal software is by taking the physical media it's on. I can steal a ROM by popping it out of a machine, I can steal a copy of a ROM by stealing your iPad. I CANNOT steal a ROM by making a copy of it.

Anyone who uses COPIED software is NOT a thief.
 
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Jamie0003 said:
I hate windows with a passion, but if I could run windows 11 or Linux on the iPad Pro with no major compromises in performance etc, I’d buy one because it’d actually make the iPad useful….the irony
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As soon as I saw that UTM SE was on the store, I installed it on my 11" pro (2nd gen) and downloaded one of the default Linux VMs.
The good news is that it ran perfectly just like a Linux. I was already seeing myself install all the dev tools I use daily...
The bad news however is that it was so slow, it was just unusable.

Individual key presses and trackpad clicks often take several seconds to be processed. When starting the window manager, you can basically go take a coffee until it loads. So I googled around a bit and I came across blogs where people report that, despite UTM SE, it is still better to connect to an external Raspberry Pi if you want to run Linux from your iPad.
 
JordanCautious said:
Imagine someone found a way to run Windows 10/11 native on the iPad lmao. Would make the iPad more useful for sure
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UTM full edition on my m2 Mac mini runs windows 11 VERY well (not games that need rtx of course, won’t be running cyberpunk yet!)

The only reason the iPad Pro can’t is because Apple removed JIT and virtualisation. Literally the only reasons. UTM SE on the iPad Pro is the neutered and slow result 🤦🏻

You used to be able to enable jit from Mac OS/another iOS device/windows using Altjit for example but apple even made that much harder.

Even with just JIT enabled, I have windows 7 running Sim City 3000 and very playable.
 
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Delgibbons said:
Yeah they took it out in iPadOS 15. For no reason.

Windows ran literally full speed with it on an M1 iPad Pro.

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This is what we need, full hypervisor support. I played around with this back then, and Windows ran perfectly for me. I tried it again last year with JIT. While an older version of Windows (I believe I tried 7) was somewhat usable, it was still pretty slow.

Other than financial reasons, I don’t see why they just can't re-open it maybe for specific developers like Parallels or UTM to take full advantage of the iPad hardware. Regular users can continue using their iPads as normal, advanced users will understand whatever risks and will be able to do more with their iPads.
 
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stiligFox said:
Ah, if only we had JIT now! I used Windows XP frequently for old software for my car. Having it on my iPad would be AMAZING!

I mean to be fair it does work, but the lag is... huge just to open a menu.
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How do you buy for your Ipad a Windows XP license? Rights to downgrade are limited only to Enterprise... isn't it?
 
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Blackstick said:
And who do you propose I pay for Midnight Rescue when The Learning Company went bankrupt in 1995?
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even bankrupt companies sell off assets when being closed down.
Someone, somewhere, owns the IP of the ROMs.

Now if these people could come forward and make them legally available for a small fee, I'm sure many would be willing to pay up and play legally.
 
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Victor Mortimer said:
Didn't we just have this lesson a few weeks ago? <sigh> Here it is again:

COPYING IS NOT THEFT.


BY DEFINITION, copying CANNOT be stealing. The only way you can actually steal software is by taking the physical media it's on. I can steal a ROM by popping it out of a machine, I can steal a copy of a ROM by stealing your iPad. I CANNOT steal a ROM by making a copy of it.

Anyone who uses COPIED software is NOT a thief.
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oh...the irony. Look, play all the word games you want Vic, but reproducing (copying) a copyrighted material is against the law. Period. Full Stop. And copyright violation (infringement) can be prosecuted by law.

"Willful copyright infringement can also result in criminal penalties, including imprisonment of up to five years and fines of up to $250,000 per offense. For more information, please see the Web site of the U.S. Copyright Office at www.copyright.gov, especially their FAQ's at www.copyright.gov/help/faq."

So here is the irony, the fact you referenced a non-profit organization whose mission it was to call into question the law, but has since closed its doors, does not give your argument any legal credibility. They knew the law. They FOLLOWED the law. Perhaps you recognize the carton character they were copying? Walt Disney's first breakout character (before mickey), Oswald the Lucky Rabbit, created in 1923 while Walt was working with Universal Studios, and as such was owned by Universal (that pesky copyright). So Walt, instead of violating the law by copying his own creation, renegotiated his contract with Universal, and created a NEW character, Mickey Mouse, where he had the copyrights, and the rest is history. So why didn't Question Copyright use Disney's creation Mickey Mouse in their propaganda? Because it was still under copyright, but Oswald has since gone out of copyright. BTW, Disney Corp bought the rights back to Oswald in 2006 perhaps out of loyalty to Walt. But wait, more irony, Walt first called Mickey, 'Mortimer.' Point is, you reference a radical group that obeyed the same law they were protesting. yes, protesting. Does not change the law.

So you share their opinion that the copyright law is stupid, fine, it's still the law. So you either break the law, steal, or you change the law first.

Thanks for the chuckle and the chance to visit nostalgia.
 
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G5isAlive said:
oh...the irony. Look, play all the word games you want Vic, but reproducing (copying) a copyrighted material is against the law. Period. Full Stop.
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Wouldn't it be impossible / illegal to use a computer to enjoy copyrighted material then? The way computers work is by making copies. Stream the copy from the source on the server, load the copy into memory, send a copy to the GPU for decode, etc etc.
 
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