Apple Updates Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro for Mac to Support New iPad Apps

[tomtad]

Waiting for the day when macOS integrates with iPad OS.

macOS running on M2 iPad Pro.

This is inevitable. Macs are gaining touchscreens and iPad now have pointers, they will meet in the middle. Except I feel it will be the other way round with a more advanced version of iPadOS being the OS for both iPad and Mac.

Why has Apple released these apps on iPad? Because they will one day replace the Mac apps.

 

[Aston441]

I moved to Davinci Resolve since I heard about the subscription plans.

Also I stopped recommending Final Cut to others. Its dead to me now.

I know, the Mac version is not subscription based for the moment, but we all now greedy apple by now.

Switching to Davinci Resolve and Ableton Live in the near future keeps me platform independent. Just for the case apple gets even wilder ideas in the future. I’ll never forget what they did to aperture.

Starting to look into Ableton also. I never considered it before, but may as well start getting familiar now, in case I need to suddenly jump ship.

 

[DownUnderDan]

I totally agree. I’m not a fan of subscriptions, but in this case, at $50 per year, it takes 6 years before you pay the same as the one time $300 fee. Plus being able to cancel. It’s actually saving money.

I guess my little YouTube channel I use Final Cut for should have ceased to exist in 2018 using that logic as I broke the subscribing is cheaper model we are all supposed to follow on your numbers around then.

 

[dandeco]

I hope this does not go the "iWork"-route... macOS versions of Pages / Keynote / Numbers losing features to be on par with the iOS versions.

Well, I did notice that the Mac version of FCP got rid of some of the audio effects from prior versions. The Distortion folder doesn't have the Telephone or Television audio distortion effects. It's too bad, because I found them useful in some projects. Unless some of the Logic effects have similar presets built in?

 

[nathansz]

re: subscriptions
they're ok if the price is reasonable
lemme remind you than you use to pay like 300+ bucks every 2-3 years for a new big version anyway
keeping this 50 bucks a year and having constant development and only one version to support is way better

Logic is a one time purchase of $199 with free updates

Not $300+ with paid upgrades

 

[nathansz]

And replaced with what?

Linux or windows

Your choice

 

[MacFan782040]

*sigh* thanks Apple. But there's still so many missing features.

To the person who disagreed - you think 2 minor features (voice isolation and dupe detection) in 3.5 years is sustainable? In a time when video is everywhere and AI features are exploding? Let's hope for better years ahead with FCP.

 

[Minxy]

Awesome to have an update.

No. We should not be grateful to the Apple gods. This is the problem with Final Cut is that there is no communication from the development team and too few updates. Sure there’s some new features, I haven’t updated and tested yet. But it’s so slow with updates and is missing key feature that other software has including the free beginners’ program CapCut and Descript. Should I just wait another year HOPING they will be added next year? I paid £300 for this (student package) and it often feels like Final Cut been abandoned. When I get the time I am seriously thinking of testing out Da Vinci Resolve to see if I can replace it.

 

[svish]

Good to know. Hopefully Apple will never switch the Mac apps to a subscription model.

 

[MacFan782040]

Good to know. Hopefully Apple will never switch the Mac apps to a subscription model.

Why? If it’s a pro app, people are usually making money from it. Everything else I do in my business I’m paying for monthly or annually. Plus, if it means more frequent updates and features, I’m much happier to pay a subscription. $300 / 5 years is $5/month anyway, and people can buy in/out whenever they want which may even save you money.

 

[MacHeritage]

Love the updates to the Mac versions. Even Compressor had a nice solid update. Can't wait to use these in the near future.

 

[fikonhjul]

Reminder to be careful...MotionVFX had a notice of plugins that will not work 7 minutes after this post. I'm SURE they aren't alone.

No, they won't be. According to MotionVFX, this update ends Rosetta for FCP (and possibly also Motion), meaning lots of plugins not ready for Apple Silicon will stop working.

 

[Liquidmalibu]

I know I'm in the minority here, but anyone hear anything about MainStage on the iPad? I assume the platform is dead...

 

[dandeco]

Love the updates to the Mac versions. Even Compressor had a nice solid update. Can't wait to use these in the near future.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to trying out the Scene Removal Mask with some footage I shoot. It also doesn't seem to work with cartoon footage, so using it with my YTPs is out of the question (then again, it'd probably be easier to rotoscope cartoon clips than live-action anyways, especially if it uses limited animation).

 

[MacHeritage]

No, they won't be. According to MotionVFX, this update ends Rosetta for FCP (and possibly also Motion), meaning lots of plugins not ready for Apple Silicon will stop working.

Oh wow! That is big news that will stop me from upgrading to this new version any time soon (too many old plug-ins etc.).

 

[nathansz]

No, they won't be. According to MotionVFX, this update ends Rosetta for FCP (and possibly also Motion), meaning lots of plugins not ready for Apple Silicon will stop working.

Good reason to stay on intel I guess

 

[dandeco]

No, they won't be. According to MotionVFX, this update ends Rosetta for FCP (and possibly also Motion), meaning lots of plugins not ready for Apple Silicon will stop working.

So THAT must be why some of the included audio effects suddenly went missing!

 

[MacHeritage]

Good reason to stay on intel I guess

I totally forgot about that myself... INTEL FOREVER!

 

[MacHeritage]

Good reason to stay on intel I guess

I actually found out through Neat Video tonight that FCP 10.6.6 and Motion 5.6.4 and newer have stopped supporting older plug-ins period. This already happened on AS Macs but is now hitting Intel ones as well. So if you are running an Intel machine, you will have the issue as well.

Any support for Rosetta plug-ins etc. is gone from Final Cut altogether, from what I understand. Intel or AS doesn't matter.

 

[Asbow]

Didn’t realise auto update was set as default on my MacBook Pro. mO2 now useless.

 

[Asbow]

Didn’t realise auto update was set as default on my MacBook Pro. mO2 now useless.

Luckily on my iMac auto update wasn’t checked. Copied over and everything ok. Now have a copy of Motion and FCP sitting on my NAS for back up.

 

[MacHeritage]

Luckily on my iMac auto update wasn’t checked. Copied over and everything ok. Now have a copy of Motion and FCP sitting on my NAS for back up.

Wouldn't you just use Time Machine (or SuperDuper etc. backup)? I've done that a few times with different apps and just go into Time Machine and grab the older app.

 

[Asbow]

Wouldn't you just use Time Machine (or SuperDuper etc. backup)? I've done that a few times with different apps and just go into Time Machine and grab the older app.

You’d have thought so, but I didn’t have a TM backup. Work is backed to NAS, but apps aren’t.

It’s just typical though. A minor update breaks everything.

 

[StyxMaker]

It feels that way. One day the whole ecosystem will be rental based model. You own nothing and you'll be happy.

Come on people, all you’ve ever ‘owned’ was a license to use the software.

 

[dandeco]

Well, I did notice that the Mac version of FCP got rid of some of the audio effects from prior versions. The Distortion folder doesn't have the Telephone or Television audio distortion effects. It's too bad, because I found them useful in some projects. Unless some of the Logic effects have similar presets built in?

Well, they're back, but now called "Telephone 2" and "Television 2". Guess they were upgraded into new Universal-compatible versions, and they have some new presets included as well! Typical Apple, temporarily removing a feature and putting it back into an application.