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Apple Updates iMac with Haswell and Faster PCIe Flash Storage

Serban said:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7076/...on-notebook-review-haswell-and-the-gtx-780m/3

so 780M is worse than 680MX..why apple didnt talk with Nvidia to make a 780MX?
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Worse? How so? The 780m runs at 770mhz compared to the 680mx at 720mhz. The 780m also carries twice the amount of vRAM (4gb) compared to the 680mx (2gb).

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Did a little more research and found this article comparing the 780m to the 680mx. Basically they are saying the 780m is just a rebranded 680mx with slightly higher clock speed and more vRAM just like I stated above. No way it is worse but to say it is better would also be a long shot. Not much performance increase at all is what it seems...

http://www.eteknix.com/nvidia-gtx-780m-gets-benchmarked/
 
kazmac said:
for a price anyway. If I were in the market, I'd definitely swerve toward the 27" size though. More customization options.

Student discount is not as hefty as it once was (bummer). I am glad to see these were upgraded today.

Now let's see the Mac Pro, MBPs and Minis updates too.
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How much has the student discount gone down by in the UK? I was hoping the get the 14% off the update, bummer indeed!

Thanks
 
xlii said:
Two 8" floppies! I would have died for two 8" floppies. If you remember the days of booting a mainframe from DECTape.
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Sadly, that was before my time.

I did have to reboot a *really* old system in the college computer lab from a stack of punch cards once, though. (You only ever drop *that* stack once. :eek:)

That system got decommissioned (with hacksaws and hammers) a few weeks later after it's hard drive walked across the floor and damaged some switches. It had been kept around as a 'curiosity piece' for us comp-sci students to marvel at.
 
tekmoe said:
Worse? How so? The 780m runs at 770mhz compared to the 680mx at 720mhz. The 780m also carries twice the amount of vRAM (4gb) compared to the 680mx (2gb).

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Did a little more research and found this article comparing the 780m to the 680mx. Basically they are saying the 780m is just a rebranded 680mx with slightly higher clock speed and more vRAM just like I stated above. No way it is worse but to say it is better would also be a long shot. Not much performance increase at all is what it seems...

http://www.eteknix.com/nvidia-gtx-780m-gets-benchmarked/
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The original article also states that performance was hindered in the test system due to high heat causing GPU Boost 2.0 to throttle down the GPU. Thus it is faster, but in certain scenarios, if the system has poor cooling, it will effect performance negatively. This is to be expected and under normal circumstances and a system like the imac (which has superior cooling) should be a non-issue.
 
Tweak3D said:
The original article also states that performance was hindered in the test system due to high heat causing GPU Boost 2.0 to throttle down the GPU. Thus it is faster, but in certain scenarios, if the system has poor cooling, it will effect performance negatively. This is to be expected and under normal circumstances and a system like the imac (which has superior cooling) should be a non-issue.
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so will be much better on an iMAC than laptop?
 
jayducharme said:
Their timing is always problematic. We just upgraded our college labs to the "new" iMacs in August. Mainly, we needed better graphics chips (from our original 128 mb iMacs). I wish Apple had a summer upgrade cycle so that we could get the newer machines for the start of the semester. The iMacs we purchased have 512 mb. Now 1 gb seems to be standard, along with 8 gb of RAM. By the time we can afford to upgrade the labs again, we'll probably once again end up behind the curve....

Edit: Whoa! Finally a 1 tb SSD option -- for an additional $1000.
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This is the way all electronics are.
 
kazmac said:
rchip, I wouldn't know, I'm in the U.S. - hopefully someone else can answer you.
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Oh sorry! I should have checked that. Thanks, I can't log onto the store at home to check you see.

Cheers for the reply!
 
tbrinkma said:
Sadly, that was before my time.

I did have to reboot a *really* old system in the college computer lab from a stack of punch cards once, though. (You only ever drop *that* stack once. :eek:)
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That's how I learned you should number the cards..... painful lesson.
 
xlii said:
Two 8" floppies! I would have died for two 8" floppies. If you remember the days of booting a mainframe from DECTape.
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REmember the days when you lived in fear of dropping or bending your cards while loading the hopper on the computer
 
I just ordered a 27" iMac with the 680MX GPU upgrade from B&H. It was discounted to $1949 plus no tax and free shipping. They are closed this week due to the Jewish holiday and it will be shipped next Monday.

But with the new upgrade, I am considering canceling that order and picking up a new 27" iMac with the standard 775M GPU. It is $1899 + tax with the education discount.

Is the 775M comparable to the 680MX?

Or am I better off keeping the order for the "old" 680MX iMac?
 
To anyone still dreaming about a $1999 base line for the upcoming Mac Pro they need look no further than to the 27in iMac with 32GB/i7/1TB PCI-E SSD as a baseline, if that.

You're looking at $4k+ for the baseline.
 
Tech198 said:
They don't ? What about the New Macbook Air with Haswell ? They showed this off a few weeks after intel released the chip in July.

Specs are still specs. Doesn't matter how small,, They could have slipped this in along side the "rumored" Macbook Pro updates next month..
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Because it was convenient to show at WWDC. The massive battery gains were also noteworthy. It wasn't an event for the Air or a hardware specific event.

They want it out now, most people just buy the model that is available so it doesn't need any fanfare. I'd also put money on the Macbook Pro and Mac Pro being part of a Pro event with the Mini tagging along sometime after or just a silent update.
 
tdream said:
How does that bode well? The thermal envelope for a 21.5" imac and Macbook is completely different.
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There was a leaked benchmark that shows a 15" MBP with Iris Pro graphics.

Some have speculated that the MBP refresh is waiting for the new chips from Intel with Iris and Iris Pro graphics, which were "released" back in June/July but haven't been seen in very many shipping products yet.
 
clamnectar said:
Most of the iMac market is people who don't know a Haswell from a handsaw. A little processor update is only big news to the nanometer counters among us.
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Yeah. But the iPhone 5c is not even an upgrade... it's exactly the same hardware as before, but in another package... yet, Apple is making it sound like a big deal.
 
milo said:
iPhone was released four days ago and has been selling millions a day. The 27 inch model doesn't even start shipping for two to three weeks, expect it to be featured more prominently by then.
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Should we?

It seems to me that Apple simply does not care about Macs anymore. It has only updated the iMac because it has to. Something like a burden.

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Count Blah said:
Apple isn't a computer company anymore. Hell, they removed "computer" from the name several years back.

It's a consumer device company now. You should be glad they even make computers anymore. Jobs even considers killing anything remotely resembling a "pro" models of any Apple computer.

Apple has moved on from the "pro" segment. Soon it seems, pro's will be forced to move on from Apple.
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Kind of.

But I don't know if I'm happy they still do computers. If they're not interested in computers anymore, just drop doing them... stop fooling us around.
 
I'm glad I don't have to wait until October to order a 27" iMac. These iMacs are perfect for my neuroimaging lab.
 
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