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I just called 1-800-myapple to ask about the pricing discrepancy between US and Canada.

I asked if I could order from the US store- he said no. I asked if he could explain the pricing discrepancy- he hummed and hawed and said nothing. I asked if I could talk to somebody who could explain it- he said no. I told him I'd hold off on my purchase.

Could all good Canadians on this forum do me a favour and call them up?

Thanks!

I was just talking to the Apple rep here too as I am looking at getting a Mac Pro and the price difference is just criminal. I got the same humming and hawing too when I told them that this was not acceptable. Wonder who else we need to talk to.
 
For the people complainign about the combo drive...

You would expect the low end to come with something less then the high end, no?

Not in this department, no...just like they both have the same webcam, speakers, keyboard, screen resolution, OS etc...
 
I think that the website you looked at is for individual consumers, not large companies that import large amounts of products. But anyway....

OK.... so let's go with your numbers and say that duty is 15% (the highest of the range you provided) 15% of, let's say $1233 CAD ($1299 USD) is still less than the $200-300 difference. And let's not forget that the US Dollar is weaker than the Canadian Dollar, it's not at parity anymore.

That still doesn't explain the Leopard pricing parity of $129 CAD and USD. Why were they able to do it with that product? I guess they have different pricing policies depending on the item? My feeble Canadian brain is confused :confused:

The real joke here is the pricing of the new BT keyboard. Its the same price on the Canadian and American sites but in the education store here in Canada it sells for $71 and in the US site its not discounted.. So to me there is no good reason why the sites are on on par. All computers are shipped from China and so we should not be charged the extra. This is just plain gouging
 
Can someone please explain this to me?

I priced out a mid-range MacBook with 2 gigs of ram, the 160 HD and Apple care.

Nex I priced a low-end MacBook Pro (which comes with the 2 gig and 160 standard) and Apple Care.

There is a 500 dollar difference! Why pay that much? Why not get the MacBook? they are both 2.2 Ghz. $500 more for a backlit keyboard and bigger frontside bus?

Am I missing something?
 
I priced out a mid-range MacBook with 2 gigs of ram, the 160 HD and Apple care.

Nex I priced a low-end MacBook Pro (which comes with the 2 gig and 160 standard) and Apple Care.

There is a 500 dollar difference! Why pay that much? Why not get the MacBook? they are both 2.2 Ghz. $500 more for a backlit keyboard and bigger frontside bus?

Am I missing something?

Graphics, LED screen, backlight keys, alum body, 30" screen support, etc.. small details that make a pro part of the pro line
 
I priced out a mid-range MacBook with 2 gigs of ram, the 160 HD and Apple care.

Nex I priced a low-end MacBook Pro (which comes with the 2 gig and 160 standard) and Apple Care.

There is a 500 dollar difference! Why pay that much? Why not get the MacBook? they are both 2.2 Ghz. $500 more for a backlit keyboard and bigger frontside bus?

Am I missing something?
You can save more but getting non-Apple RAM.

You can get 4 GB for the price that Apple charges for 2 GB. :rolleyes:
 
Wow, so you took an older Mac case and used it. Color me impressed. That's actually not a bad idea, in the end, it sort of IS a Mac (well, it would be if your motherboard and chipset were Intel). But you're still missing my point ;) lol.

Well, lets have a civil discussion about what makes a Mac a Mac shall we?

Im going to use some comparisons that people already feel are not valid. Hopefully by the time I'm done you will see they are valid.

Lets compare your average Dell machine with your average Apple machine.
The hardware inside should break down to something like this. This is very simplified, but this is how I look at it. Inside every computer you will find these items:

CPU Socket
RAM Slots
Northbridge
Southbridge
IO Ports (USB/FW/e-SATA/PS2/Audio etc)
Expansion slots.
Intel CPU
RAM
GPU

Again, that is very simplified, but you get the point. Now lets break this down.

A Dell has a S775 CPU socket. An Apple machine has a S775 CPU socket.
A Dell has RAM slots. An Apple machine has RAM slots.
A Dell uses an Intel supplied Northbridge. An Apple machine uses an Intel supplied Northbridge.
A Dell uses an Intel supplied Southbridge. An Apple machine uses an Intel supplied Southbridge.
A Dell has Expansion Slots. Some Apple machines have expansion slots.
A Dell machine has IO ports. Apple machines have... You guessed it IO ports as well.
Some/most Dells use Intel CPUs. Apple Uses Intel CPUs.
Dell Uses DDR spec RAM. Apple uses DDR spec RAM.
Dell uses Intel GMA/Nvidia/ATI GPUs. Apple uses Intel GMA/Nvidia/ATI GPUs.

So, What do you get from that? The vast majority of the hardware seems the same to me. So what is it that makes a Mac a Mac? Ahh... OS X. But as its already been stated, that too can run on a Dell. After all, Its OpenBSD with a pretty window manager overtop.

So really.. The only things that I can come up with as to what makes a Mac a Mac is.... 1) The Apple logo on the outside. Once it receives that Apple logo it magically ceases to be a PC, even though it still uses generic PC hardware. 2) TPM.

Maybe its more than that. Maybe its a status thing that makes a Mac a Mac. Maybe its the Premium price tag. Maybe its that your buying into a "community". Maybe its some VERY brilliant marketing. IMHO the difference went away when Intel hardware was brought into the picture.

Anyone care to debate this with me? Im not putting this out as flame bate, I just wanna have a real conversation about this!
 
Not missing anything.

In Apple Land, "pro" means "quite a bit more money for little things that you would have expected to be standard".

For example, how many ExpressCard ports in a MacBook vs. a MacBook Pro?

Why do you think this is true? Granted the ExpressCard is one thing, but there aren't too many machines out there that have a FW800 port, backlit keyboard, and support for a 30" display standard. The extra $500 is worth it.
 
Any sign the Mini got a stealth update too?

I still can't believe the combodrive is still there. TOTALLY unacceptable.

im hoping so, i'm quite keen to get one, but would like a slightly better vid card so i can play the old guild wars a little nicer (gma950 in macbook is still pretty sweet tho)

planning on using the mini as a media centre
 
Education Discount

The real joke here is the pricing of the new BT keyboard. Its the same price on the Canadian and American sites but in the education store here in Canada it sells for $71 and in the US site its not discounted.. So to me there is no good reason why the sites are on on par. All computers are shipped from China and so we should not be charged the extra. This is just plain gouging

Although $71 is hardly a discount from $79, it is puzzling that the US EDU gets zero discount for the BT keyboard. Perhaps with rev b we'll see the discount apply.....
 
Well, lets have a civil discussion about what makes a Mac a Mac shall we?

A Dell has a S775 CPU socket. An Apple machine has a S775 CPU socket.
A Dell has RAM slots. An Apple machine has RAM slots.
A Dell uses an Intel supplied Northbridge. An Apple machine uses an Intel supplied Northbridge.
A Dell uses an Intel supplied Southbridge. An Apple machine uses an Intel supplied Southbridge.
A Dell has Expansion Slots. Some Apple machines have expansion slots.
A Dell machine has IO ports. Apple machines have... You guessed it IO ports as well.
Some/most Dells use Intel CPUs. Apple Uses Intel CPUs.
Dell Uses DDR spec RAM. Apple uses DDR spec RAM.
Dell uses Intel GMA/Nvidia/ATI GPUs. Apple uses Intel GMA/Nvidia/ATI GPUs.

So, What do you get from that? The vast majority of the hardware seems the same to me. So what is it that makes a Mac a Mac? Ahh... OS X. But as its already been stated, that too can run on a Dell. After all, Its OpenBSD with a pretty window manager overtop.

So really.. The only things that I can come up with as to what makes a Mac a Mac is.... 1) The Apple logo on the outside. Once it receives that Apple logo it magically ceases to be a PC, even though it still uses generic PC hardware. 2) TPM.

Maybe its more than that. Maybe its a status thing that makes a Mac a Mac. Maybe its the Premium price tag. Maybe its that your buying into a "community". Maybe its some VERY brilliant marketing. IMHO the difference went away when Intel hardware was brought into the picture.

Anyone care to debate this with me? Im not putting this out as flame bate, I just wanna have a real conversation about this!


well, the same ingredients don't necessarily make the same meal.
I can cook from the same stuff as your mom - which meal would you choose?

Apple just tastes better :)
 
I dont think that it should make a difference, as I think the macbooks are produced in Suzhou (China).

Go back and read the original post. I wasn't only talking about Apple products.. the OP referring to European made products that are more expensive in u.s ( not surprisingly).

:)
 
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