well, the same ingredients don't necessarily make the same meal.
I can cook from the same stuff as your mom - which meal would you choose?
Apple just tastes better![]()
I was noticing that the macbook is listed at 5.0 lbs (2.27 kg), older macbooks are listed at 5.1 lbs (2.31 kg)
maybe this is the ultraportable they were talking about!!![]()
I was noticing that the macbook is listed at 5.0 lbs (2.27 kg), older macbooks are listed at 5.1 lbs (2.31 kg)
maybe this is the ultraportable they were talking about!!![]()
Why do you think this is true? Granted the ExpressCard is one thing, but there aren't too many machines out there that have a FW800 port, backlit keyboard, and support for a 30" display standard. The extra $500 is worth it.
Just picked one up tonight. My wife's Toshiba laptop died about a month ago and I promised her a Macbook but was waiting for the update. She is happy and I am happy that she no longer needs to use my iMac. Little does she know that I will find a way to make that Macbook mine too![]()
Possible LED backlight with its weight savings still?
i haven't been keeping up w/ the macbooks... do they have led lcd monitors yet?
glad to see there are other people that see this. I've always seen this and it's ridiculous i think. To me, paying double to triple the price for the same pc parts is insane no matter how good the operating system is. Mac mini/imac are worth the price bc their size etc. A base laptop from apple is $1099....that same laptop can be had for $500 from dell. If you want new users to switch to your company why would they want to pay more than double for the same specs? If they don't know you're operating system in the first place, why would they want to learn for $600 more?Well, lets have a civil discussion about what makes a Mac a Mac shall we?
Im going to use some comparisons that people already feel are not valid. Hopefully by the time I'm done you will see they are valid.
Lets compare your average Dell machine with your average Apple machine.
The hardware inside should break down to something like this. This is very simplified, but this is how I look at it. Inside every computer you will find these items:
CPU Socket
RAM Slots
Northbridge
Southbridge
IO Ports (USB/FW/e-SATA/PS2/Audio etc)
Expansion slots.
Intel CPU
RAM
GPU
Again, that is very simplified, but you get the point. Now lets break this down.
A Dell has a S775 CPU socket. An Apple machine has a S775 CPU socket.
A Dell has RAM slots. An Apple machine has RAM slots.
A Dell uses an Intel supplied Northbridge. An Apple machine uses an Intel supplied Northbridge.
A Dell uses an Intel supplied Southbridge. An Apple machine uses an Intel supplied Southbridge.
A Dell has Expansion Slots. Some Apple machines have expansion slots.
A Dell machine has IO ports. Apple machines have... You guessed it IO ports as well.
Some/most Dells use Intel CPUs. Apple Uses Intel CPUs.
Dell Uses DDR spec RAM. Apple uses DDR spec RAM.
Dell uses Intel GMA/Nvidia/ATI GPUs. Apple uses Intel GMA/Nvidia/ATI GPUs.
So, What do you get from that? The vast majority of the hardware seems the same to me. So what is it that makes a Mac a Mac? Ahh... OS X. But as its already been stated, that too can run on a Dell. After all, Its OpenBSD with a pretty window manager overtop.
So really.. The only things that I can come up with as to what makes a Mac a Mac is.... 1) The Apple logo on the outside. Once it receives that Apple logo it magically ceases to be a PC, even though it still uses generic PC hardware. 2) TPM.
Maybe its more than that. Maybe its a status thing that makes a Mac a Mac. Maybe its the Premium price tag. Maybe its that your buying into a "community". Maybe its some VERY brilliant marketing. IMHO the difference went away when Intel hardware was brought into the picture.
Anyone care to debate this with me? Im not putting this out as flame bate, I just wanna have a real conversation about this!
...A base laptop from apple is $1099....that same laptop can be had for $500 from dell...
Your tempting me mate!!! I might buy now and sell it...? I am not sure if I want to go through the hassle of selling the laptop on eBay or anything though?
Mitch
For video recording/editing, FireWire is still king.What's FW800? Is that related to the failed 1394b project? USB 2.0 killed FireWire - get over it. Move on.
I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO pissed right now. My MBP arrived 3 days ago (minus leopard). I rang Apple to see if I could get an upgrade or refund. They said even though the cooling off period is 10 days, I cannot return mine because it was a CUSTOM order. I chose the high-res screen and 7200rpm HDD. So I havent even used the computer yet. Im waiting for them to send me Leopard now..... I just spent $4000 on this machine, was wanting to get top of the line and it is already 2nd best and I havent even used it.
I would pay the extra to get the 2.6Ghz
I went to a local Apple store before placing my order and asked a sales person if I should wait another week or 2 in case Apple updated their computers with Leopard. He said "DEFINITELY NOT, THERE WILL BE NO UPGRADE BEFORE JANUARY". He also convinced me to order online.
Might I add that my MBP was not due to arrive until Nov 6 - 11th. They shipped it early. I can't express how upset I am.
And they say there is nothing I can do about it.
Its a joke that they still have a drive without a dvd burner. If that option cost £10 more with a superdrive, TONS of people would get it...
...A base laptop from apple is $1099....that same laptop can be had for $500 from dell. If you want new users to switch to your company why would they want to pay more than double for the same specs? If they don't know you're operating system in the first place, why would they want to learn for $600 more?
For video recording/editing, FireWire is still king.
The USB 2.0 vs. FW800 is another example of the MHz myth. Although similar on paper in burst rate, most RW tests show that the sustained throughput of FW800 is much higher.
So the "victory" of USB 2.0 vs. FW800 is another technological tragedy akin to the death of Betamax.
BTW, I too am puzzled (for that matter, very disappointed) at the Apple Canada pricing on MacBooks. There is no reason why the Canadian price should not be the same as or less than the U.S. price. I had recently commended Apple Canada for having fairer pricing for its newly released products, but I see it has gone back to its old ways again.
Looks like I'll probably buy my next Mac on a road trip to Washington state.