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Apple Updates MacBooks to Santa Rosa, GMA X3100

JSpence said:
lol there are facts in there, more so than what you could run into here. Newsweek Magazine? TIME Magazine? College Textbook?
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Goof

A load of Newspapers said:
"Surprisingly, at 72, he composed with Cathy Dennis the hit Reach which made No2 in the British charts for teen-pop group S Club 7 in the summer of 2000"
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I know what you're saying and he sounded like a loser.

Back to MacBooks... I think the design is too new to go Aluminium and they'll keep the MBP for ages more...

blisters said:
big deal. i can do photoshop on a 5 year old pc/apple laptop.
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Erm...?? I was responding to someone that made out the MacBook is only good for email, surfing and itunes... What's your problem?

nyprospect said:
Apple has created a buzz over a speed bump.Thats exactly what they want.Either you buy it or you dont.It is still an upgrade.I vistied the apple site 35 times this past hour.Yep they got me.
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They're unlikely to care unless you bought 35 MacBooks during all that repeated surfing :)
 
The difference in manufacturing costs for CD and DVD technology are so ridiculously small that I don't see why they still do combo drives either.

scan.co.uk...

CD-RW: £8.80
DVD-RW: £15.26

They don't even sell combo drives any more, but they'd probably sit somewhere around £12. That's £3.26 more for DVD writing capability. Nothing like skimping on £3.26 and then kicking yourself for it when you finally do need to write a DVD one day! Besides, since when are Apple buyers the sort to enjoy corner-cutting for the sake of a few pennies?

Of course, we're not considering Apple's extortionate markup, where the difference between a combo drive and a "Superdrive" (when it was a single option on some Macs) is somewhere in the region of £70!! And no it's not some magic version of a DVD drive, it's just Apple ripping people off like they do with the RAM, hard drives and graphics cards so that by the time you're done making it a decent machine you think "hmm for another £200 I could buy a Mac Pro"
 
Internal GMA..... what a joke!

I really cant understand why Apple sign deals with EA and other gaming companies and then release a Macbook with an Internal Graphics option. Dell offer almost the same spec machine with the option of the GMA X3100 or 8600 dedicated nvidia card!

Basically Apple have lost of again on the mid range laptop market, which is the biggest growing market in the computer range!

Sorry to sound like a moaning old hag, but IMO this is the most ridiculous update Apple have done in a long time!
 
And my opinion? Not much more could have been expected for the MacBook. The Combo drive at the low-end is rather embarrassing in this day and age and is clearly there to push people up to the next level rather than actually make the device appealing (the cost differential is minute, I think they would have been better to have a slower CPU with Superdrive).

We all know that as an overall product the MacBook is worth the price even if the specs alone aren't so hot compared to PCs (that fall apart, and having to use a Windows XP machine at work, really, is it worth all that frustration to save a couple of hundred quid? Never mind the Mac hopefully lasting longer...). I would love to see a MacBook-level machine with discrete graphics of course, but Apple does like to clearly separate their products.
 
macbook update in the uk

does anyone know when will the update happen in the uk?

cause i just been to the mac store and there is no sign ( also on the uk website)

dying to get my macbook...
 
Great update!

I think this is a great refresh update! A chassis change (alum) will not happen during a silent update - look for that 2nd quarter of next year. SR platform was certainly expected eventually.

This puts the MB right on the heels of the MBP. I'm looking forward to what is in store for the MBP at MWSF! :D:apple:
 
koobcamuk said:
Goof




I know what you're saying and he sounded like a loser.

Back to MacBooks... I think the design is too new to go Aluminium and they'll keep the MBP for ages more...



Erm...?? I was responding to someone that made out the MacBook is only good for email, surfing and itunes... What's your problem?



They're unlikely to care unless you bought 35 MacBooks during all that repeated surfing :)
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Apple should care that anyone would pay a grand on their products.Unless prefer to be dell.
 
blisters said:
That someone would be me.
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Why are you saying the MacBook is worse than a 5 year old Mac/PC then? If you can do photoshop on those, then you can on a MacBook... I don't get what you're going on about really.
 
Hattig said:
We all know that as an overall product the MacBook is worth the price even if the specs alone aren't so hot compared to PCs (that fall apart, and having to use a Windows XP machine at work, really, is it worth all that frustration to save a couple of hundred quid? Never mind the Mac hopefully lasting longer...). I would love to see a MacBook-level machine with discrete graphics of course, but Apple does like to clearly separate their products.
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Well yes, yes it is.

I don't like having pay to pay a premium for dated hardware just because it has an apple logo on it. That's called getting "ripped off"
 
The Truth said:
Did the prices change at all? I'm in Australia, even if the US price doesn't change I'm hoping ours will due to exchange rates.
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I certainly hope so... seeing as AUD is worth 0.93 USD I don't see why we should still be paying the same price as we have been, with our dollar being treated as if it's only worth 0.65USD...
 
Stella said:
Wasn't expecting a Thursday update! This is what most were expecting - S.R - an OK update.

The Canadian pricing is disappointing.
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No kidding! Canadian pricing needs to get in line with the exchange rate, pronto!

Ironic that iTunes put an end to my music piracy, but the current price of Macbooks is going to turn me into a smuggler.

Although for what it's worth, I hear the Canadian price for dotMac has dropped $30 :)
 
cheers ck , i missed that post...

i told one of the staff that im waiting for the update and she looked at me

as if she didnt know what im talking about , she replied : update?????????
 
koobcamuk said:
Why are you saying the MacBook is worse than a 5 year old Mac/PC then? If you can do photoshop on those, then you can on a MacBook... I don't get what you're going on about really.
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what i'm saying is the macbook is nothing special. an entry level laptop that's incredibly overpriced compared to the rest of the market.
 
Hattig said:
The Combo drive at the low-end is rather embarrassing in this day and age and is clearly there to push people up to the next level
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Forgive the rants, but this is the crux of what I dislike about Apple.

Don't get me wrong, in general I love their stuff and their innovation is second to none.

But they always insist on artificial differentiation (I think that's the term). Cripple the low end to force you to go higher, even though it'd cost nothing (or pennies, or in some cases LESS) to leave it uncrippled.

Recent examples:
iPod Touch - artificially crippled to give people more reasons to buy an iPhone. By this I mean removal of notes, read-only calendar etc.
iMac range - no choice but glossy screens, to force graphic designers / photographers / etc onto Mac Pros.
iMac 20" - bargain basement LCD, possibly the worst TN in history, to force people onto the 24"
... and of course the usual crippled internals such as combo drives which are just unnecessary and save them pennies at best.

If only they'd cut out the artificial differentiation and just do things naturally.
 
blisters said:
what i'm saying is the macbook is nothing special. an entry level laptop that's incredibly overpriced compared to the rest of the market.
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You in the US or UK? If it's overpriced for the USA, it's about twice as overpriced here. I can get a 'decent' laptop here for £300 ($600). It'll have more things that the MacBook, but won't look as nice or run OSX. It's the running of OSX that glues me to Mac hardware.

I still want one of those teeny-weeny ASUS notebooks. Ultraportable from Apple? Not happening any time soon :(
 
U.S. Store vs. Canada Store

As of right now, it looks like Apple hasn't changed their pricing in the Canada Store to reflect the strong Canadian Dollar. I call B.S. on that one.

Here is what I mean:

U.S. Store Prices for the three new MacBooks:
US Prices............ In Canadian Dollars after conversion:
$1099 USD............ $1039.22 CAD
$1299 USD............ $1228.34 CAD
$1499 USD............ $1417.46 CAD

Canadian Store Prices:
$1249
$1449
$1649

And let's not forget sales tax- in Canada, we're talking 14% tax on top of those high Canadian prices. If I take a quick drive down to Buffalo, NY, I can pay the U.S. price and only approximately 8% sales tax. Even if I have to declare the MacBook at the border, the duty fees I would have to pay would not come close to the more than $200 difference (over $320 difference including taxes). Oh, the cost of gas would only be around $50-60 to drive there and back, so it's still a big savings.

When Leopard was released, Apple priced it competitively in Canada to the US price, at $129 CAD. I expected them to do the same with the MacBook, considering our dollar is stronger than the U.S. and is still going up. I think that they've dropped the ball here. The price differences between products in Canada vs. the U.S. is a big story right now in Canada, and it's only a matter of time before this story appears on the news.

Guess where I'll be driving in the next couple of weeks? At least I'll be able to eat at The Cheesecake Factory.....
 
DoFoT9 said:
lol havent u heard of different economies??? and exchange rates/?
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Have you ever heard of Canada?

Apple sells a lot of MacBooks here, but apparently has no idea that the dollar is worth 106 of your pennies today.

Go figure.
 
Orng said:
Ironic that iTunes put an end to my music piracy, but the current price of Macbooks is going to turn me into a smuggler.
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How the HECK did iTunes stop your piracy? Paying for music in poor quality, compared to getting it much earlier and not paying in a high quality.. there's no comparison, iTunes is balls for buying music.
blisters said:
what i'm saying is the macbook is nothing special. an entry level laptop that's incredibly overpriced compared to the rest of the market.
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Then you're clearly clueless. Find me a laptop of the same specification for the same price or cheaper. That's X3100, Santa Rosa 2.2Ghz, 120-160GB HDD, slot-loading DVD drive, remote, a sleek design to encompass it all, plus iLife and OSX of course (but can't really put that on a Windows laptop, it's extra for music and video editing software that's as good as iLife).
 
stakis said:
I really didn't expect them to release a crazy new macbook before Macworld... I think now they can do a whole new design for Macworld.... Lets see what happens
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I doubt we will see a whole new design at MacWorld because that would anger a great many people. I know I would be upset if I bought a new MacBook now and then saw a new design two months later. I don't think we will see a new design until the MacBook moves to the Montevina platform using the "Cantiga" chipset.
 
THIS is what I was holding off buying Leopard for? I was hoping to get a decent update with new LED screens and potentially slimmer and aluminum casing so both me and my SO could get new Macs. It's really disappointing since i've been waiting forever for Leopard to come out to get her her first Mac . Just can't help feeling that this upgrade is kind of second rate...
 
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