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no they didn't. it's still integrated. gamers should stay away from the macbook. it's not really meant for that sort of thing.

web, email, word processing...that's pretty much all the macbook is designed to handle.

Yep...oh and iMovie and iPhoto and iDVD and Logic Express and Photoshop and a crap load of other programs. Just not high end 3D games. But it's certainly not just good for email and word processing.
 
As I've written before (see page 2), if you want the Holy Grail, then wait January the 14th, 2008.

Also, there's three reasons not to buy right now :

1) the mac book is still a rather heavy laptop : 5 pds. The tendancy right now is to go under 4.5.

2) the optical drive becomes useless, especially for those who want a region free one (on a Mac it's pretty hard to watch DVDs from different zones), so a laptop without an optical drive with an external drive is the future.

3) last but not least, leopard will be much more operational on the new 2008 plateform.

1. wintel laptop power supplies are bulkier and adds additional weight and require additional space. So the Mac Book has the same weight as 4.5 pound wintels, and may even take up less space due to the efficient cord management.

2. There are no region-free optical drives for either macs or pcs. Region Free is possible, but you need to work to get it either on a Mac or Wintel.

3. Speculation, but it's obvious the Mac OS will improve over time.
 
Apple won't see my money until they adjust their pricing to reflect our dollar. That goes for any big purchases from any retailer. The government has warned retailers to adjust their pricing but it falls on deaf ears. If I need anything, I'll be taking a drive over the border. Good luck when the holiday shopping arrives. A few hundred in difference can go towards Applecare or extra ram.:confused:
 
Apple won't see my money until they adjust their pricing to reflect our dollar. That goes for any big purchases from any retailer. The government has warned retailers to adjust their pricing but it falls on deaf ears. If I need anything, I'll be taking a drive over the border. Good luck when the holiday shopping arrives. A few hundred in difference can go towards Applecare or extra ram.:confused:

F**K the government!
 
As i type I have open safari, mail, iTunes, dreamweaver, photoshop, bittorren, ftp and skype.

This is on a 2.33ghz C2D with 2gb Ram Macbook Pro 17", i want somthing smaller but dont know if the Macbook will handle it.

What do you think? is 15" smallest I will get?
 
Sniff, man that hurts. My Macbook Pro 160G 7200rpm hasn't even arrived yet and they now have the 200G 7200rpm for the same price. I wouldn't be so mad except my second MBP had yellow screen issues, the first shipped with the wrong hadrive 200G 4200rpm and now this. :( sucks to be me
 
After all these hours the web site is still a mix match of information.

I really hope there is a better update in Jan, this is nice in the mean time.
 
1. wintel laptop power supplies are bulkier and adds additional weight and require additional space. So the Mac Book has the same weight as 4.5 pound wintels, and may even take up less space due to the efficient cord management.

2. There are no region-free optical drives for either macs or pcs. Region Free is possible, but you need to work to get it either on a Mac or Wintel.

3. Speculation, but it's obvious the Mac OS will improve over time.

I beg to differ, especially on point 2. Looks like you don't have a Pc and/or different zone DVDs. On a PC you have a lot of software that actually works to read them (anydvd for example). On a Mac, it's really difficult, VLC doesn't work anymore, you have to flash your drive. To lighten you up, go check this out : http://lowendmac.com/fishkin/af07/0907.html

From your answers to point 1 and 3, looks like you're working for an apple retailer. A Macbook is heavier, hands down, than a PC laptop of a same price. And the new Macbook that will see the day in January will be a REAL upgrade, not a "silent" update like this one.

So again, if you can wait 3 months, save your money, you'll be rewarded.
 
As i type I have open safari, mail, iTunes, dreamweaver, photoshop, bittorren, ftp and skype.

This is on a 2.33ghz C2D with 2gb Ram Macbook Pro 17", i want somthing smaller but dont know if the Macbook will handle it.

What do you think? is 15" smallest I will get?

My MacBook can handle that.
 
Of course, they update it right before I want to buy a refurb. Now I have to wait for the updated Macbook to show up in the refurb section. :(
 
Sniff, man that hurts. My Macbook Pro 160G 7200rpm hasn't even arrived yet and they now have the 200G 7200rpm for the same price. I wouldn't be so mad except my second MBP had yellow screen issues, the first shipped with the wrong hadrive 200G 4200rpm and now this. :( sucks to be me

Call them and find out if they will upgrade you specially with the trouble you had.
 
Are quiet updates always this quiet? Unless you're a Mac geek, you wouldn't even know from looking at the web site.
 
Of course, they update it right before I want to buy a refurb. Now I have to wait for the updated Macbook to show up in the refurb section. :(

you might be waiting awhile...

Are quiet updates always this quiet? Unless you're a Mac geek, you wouldn't even know from looking at the web site.

no they aren't usually this quiet. i wonder if that means anything?
 
Guess where I'll be driving in the next couple of weeks? At least I'll be able to eat at The Cheesecake Factory.....

That's the right thing to do.
Apple (and rightly so!) doesn't care whether their customers 'feel' like they're being ripped off.
They just look at salesfigures.
If sales are up in a market, there's no incentive for them to lower their prices to bring them more in line with the prices in the US.
 
Originally Posted by serpico
Apple won't see my money until they adjust their pricing to reflect our dollar. That goes for any big purchases from any retailer. The government has warned retailers to adjust their pricing but it falls on deaf ears. If I need anything, I'll be taking a drive over the border. Good luck when the holiday shopping arrives. A few hundred in difference can go towards Applecare or extra ram.

F**K the government!

More retailers are adjusting their prices:
http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/272499

Shame certain other stores aren't!

I don't expect $CA prices to been on par with US prices for Apple computers due to import taxes ( if they are any, due to NAFTA ), however, its obviously Apple aren't taking into account the parity of the $CA.

If companies think they can get away with stuff like this - inflating prices - they will. For example, car prices in the UK compared to mainland Europe, high drug prices in the US etc etc.
 
Ok someone help me! Which model do I need. I'm hitting the Apple store ASAP! DO I drop another $400 for black and another 200MHz? I will never burn DVDs and I don't need a big hard drive for my laptop so the base would work also.
 
Congratulations, you are a finalist for the "whiniest comment ever" award. Here's hoping you get it!

Apple allows you to upgrade your computer for what they deem to be an acceptable price. They also offer a way to make the computers cheaper if you don't need 256mb vram, or a superdrive.

And you just made it to the finale of finding the most blind Apple fanboy. How about I want the lowest MacBook model, but with a superdrive? I don't need a faster cpu, bigger harddrive or whatever. But I am forced to pay for that, just to get a superdrive, which should by now be there as standard.
 
I placed my order for the mid-range macbook within 15 minutes of waking up and reading this news.

I have been waiting for almost a year for the Leopard + fresh MacBook combo. Estimated delivery date is Nov 12.

Finally I can dump Windows!

I was also mildly disappointed about the CAD -> USD conversion rate, or should I say lack of conversion. I am using a 2% Canadian rebate and want the MacBook ASAP, so I am not that concerned at the moment.
 
I think this is a great refresh update! A chassis change (alum) will not happen during a silent update - look for that 2nd quarter of next year. SR platform was certainly expected eventually.

This puts the MB right on the heels of the MBP. I'm looking forward to what is in store for the MBP at MWSF! :D:apple:

At least someone isn't disappointed. I just woke up and is the consensus here disappointment (which isn't surprising).

Everyone kept imagining aluminum and all this crazy crap and they subconsciously were expecting it even though they consciously knew it wasn't going to happen. I can't bitch AT ALL! I'm getting my macbook before Nov 6th woooo!
 
MacBook vs Latitude D630 = $100 Apple Premium

Compared to the upper end White MacBook, Dell is $100 less expensive. I surprised (somewhat) that Apple isn't more price competitive. The Dell also has a 14" screen versus Apple's 13.3".

EDIT: I forgot about the $40 802.11n wireless card. That makes the difference at $100.
 

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Compared to the upper end White MacBook, Dell is $140 less expensive. I surprised (somewhat) that Apple isn't more price competitive. The Dell also has a 14" screen versus Apple's 13.3".
Compare it against the Dell XPS M1330 with the GMA X3100 and you'll see that the MacBook isn't that bad.

You can get XP on it much more easily with Apple's drivers too! :D

2.2 GHz model at $1199 education you tempt me so.

Any comments Zadillo?
 
Wah, my 2 month old MacBook is now outdated. Bummer, I really wish I could have 4 megs in my macbook and a faster video board to run Leopard. But I wasn't able to wait. Oh well, the wonderful world of computers.

At least Apple updates their machines now, unlike the old PPC days. And a pretty nice upgrade as predicted too.
 
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