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Apple Updates MacBooks to Santa Rosa, GMA X3100

macintel4me said:
Compared to the upper end White MacBook, Dell is $140 less expensive. I surprised (somewhat) that Apple isn't more price competitive. The Dell also has a 14" screen versus Apple's 13.3".
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The Dell also doesn't have n wireless and doesn't state what resolution the screen is it. Also, being 14" probably makes it LESS desirable as it is bigger to lug around. Furthermore, Dell doesn't state the weight. I briefly considered PC laptops, but it's hard to find one that isn't a cow....

You also forgot to include the bluetooth, and if you include the 802.11n and the bluetooth, you are looking at less than $100 difference. Not to mention that if you want the "ultimate" version of windows, the Dell is MORE expensive. You get the ultimate version of Leopard with the macbook :)

That being said, how long does it usually take for the laptops to get out to resellers? Because of my situation(long story) I pretty much have to order from a reseller.
 
Eidorian said:
Compare it against the Dell XPS M1330 with the GMA X3100 and you'll see that the MacBook isn't that bad.

You can get XP on it much more easily with Apple's drivers too! :D

2.2 GHz model at $1199 education you tempt me so.

Any comments Zadillo?
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I'm no Zadillo, but I was tempted. And I gave in. I also have an edu discount. I'm really pleased with the update as well. I think it's a quiet fresh update that will get it through the holidays
 
For those outside of US and compare your prices to the US prices.

There is a price difference not because Apple likes to do it that way, it's because of higher import taxes from your government. Apple is based OUTSIDE your country, thus will pay a higher import tax than companies based IN your country.

(Sidetrack: you have to consider that citizens of most countries DO get better services than those in the USA, such as inexpensive universal health care. In addition, be thankful you don't have a president who is not very bright, but I digress).
 
Farani said:
At least someone isn't disappointed. I just woke up and is the consensus here disappointment (which isn't surprising).

Everyone kept imagining aluminum and all this crazy crap and they subconsciously were expecting it even though they consciously knew it wasn't going to happen. I can't bitch AT ALL! I'm getting my macbook before Nov 6th woooo!
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I'm disappointed. The MacBooks now on the heels of my four month old MacBook Pro. At least I've got my 15" screen to keep me comforted.
 
Why couldn't Apple have added the 250GB BTO 2 months ago. Stupid. Now I'm stuck with a 120GB drive and I can't upgrade without voiding the warranty.
 
JSpence said:
I'm no Zadillo, but I was tempted. And I gave in. I also have an edu discount. I'm really pleased with the update as well. I think it's a quiet fresh update that will get it through the holidays
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Yeah a MacBook to please my beloved's desire for a laptop and mine for a gaming rig.

Cheaper and more portable then a Mac Pro and I get an iSight.
 
it is always mind-boggling to me that some people want apple's design but do not want to pay extra for the design, and evaluate a laptop only by its parts. it is kinda like demanding designer brand clothes to the same price as some generic brand because they use the same material! :confused:
 
Looks great, except for the combo drive... who wants that anymore.

I really do not need it though... My macbook is fine for what I use it for.
 
hi, first of im new here, i'm a windows user (sadly!!!)
i would love to buy a macbook one day, it's just that apple's own hand is in the way. why would you have such a great company (and undiscussable good products) as apple, and NOT be able to let your CUSTOMERS decide on what comp specs they want to have for their own mac.

or atleast 3,4,5 options to choose from. maybe a petition would be right here !!!! i say go for a petition and let apple see the results of what customers would like to see in near fure, and im sure im not the only person on earth thinking this should be done !!!!!

and on another note, i HATE steve jobs ! :cool:
 
--YAWN--

(-_-) Zzzzzz Zzzzzz

Wake me up when there is a real update to the MacBook Pro, like a 2.8GHz standard on the 17" Model. This better not be the update that I have been waiting for. If it is then I will spending more time with my current model and waiting for a solid update in the Pro laptop line.
 
Stella said:
I don't expect $CA prices to been on par with US prices for Apple computers due to import taxes ( if they are any, due to NAFTA ), however, its obviously Apple aren't taking into account the parity of the $CA.
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I agree with that, I don't necessarily expect the prices to be equal, but I think they should be a little closer than a $200-300 difference.

Even the upgrading that you can do is priced unfairly.
Upgrade to 4GB Memory:
US Store: $850 USD ($807 CAD)
Canadian Store: $935 CAD ($985 USD)

Wow. I'd sooner buy a MBP than pay that for extra memory.

EDIT: the big price differences are NOT due to import duties. They are based on the old exchange rate when the Canadian Dollar was weaker than the US Dollar. Import duties would not be $200-300 on a $1200 product. Apple is pricing this way because they CAN and really enjoy the extra revenue. It's good for the bottom line.
 
macintel4me said:
Compared to the upper end White MacBook, Dell is $140 less expensive. I surprised (somewhat) that Apple isn't more price competitive. The Dell also has a 14" screen versus Apple's 13.3".
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Except the battery on the dell only lasts 50% of the duration of the MacBook (they try to sell you a battery with capacity comparable to the MacBook for more $$$), and the Dell is heavier, has LOUD fans, frequently does not go to sleep / hibernate when the lid is closed.
 
MacSA said:
Any sign the Mini got a stealth update too?

I still can't believe the combodrive is still there. TOTALLY unacceptable.
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It's all marketing/pricing strategy. They want a machine they can price at $1099 to draw people in to the idea. But at that price, for "just $200" look at all the upgrades: faster processor, superdrive, bigger HD, etc. But if they put those features in the lowest model, a bunch of people would be scared off by the minimum price of $1299.
 
Surely said:
As of right now, it looks like Apple hasn't changed their pricing in the Canada Store to reflect the strong Canadian Dollar. I call B.S. on that one.

Here is what I mean:

U.S. Store Prices for the three new MacBooks:
US Prices............ In Canadian Dollars after conversion:
$1099 USD............ $1039.22 CAD
$1299 USD............ $1228.34 CAD
$1499 USD............ $1417.46 CAD

Canadian Store Prices:
$1249
$1449
$1649

And let's not forget sales tax- in Canada, we're talking 14% tax on top of those high Canadian prices. If I take a quick drive down to Buffalo, NY, I can pay the U.S. price and only approximately 8% sales tax. Even if I have to declare the MacBook at the border, the duty fees I would have to pay would not come close to the more than $200 difference (over $320 difference including taxes). Oh, the cost of gas would only be around $50-60 to drive there and back, so it's still a big savings.

When Leopard was released, Apple priced it competitively in Canada to the US price, at $129 CAD. I expected them to do the same with the MacBook, considering our dollar is stronger than the U.S. and is still going up. I think that they've dropped the ball here. The price differences between products in Canada vs. the U.S. is a big story right now in Canada, and it's only a matter of time before this story appears on the news.

Guess where I'll be driving in the next couple of weeks? At least I'll be able to eat at The Cheesecake Factory.....
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Dude, you shouldn't be complaining. look at the european prices.. Here is the prices from the swedish store:

2.0ghz: 9.995kr = $1557
2.16ghz 11.995kr = $1869
2.16ghz 13.995 = $2180

So our cheapest model is more expensive than the blackbook
 
Mbp...

Hi,

I'm based in the UK and can anyone confirm if the 2.2Ghz 15 MBP is changing in any way? The UK site nor my employee purchase program apple site (we have a deal with apple) show updates for either the MB or MBP.

I ordered a new one two days ago with optional 160Gb HD with a quote of 3 days shipping (which would be the 2nd November). I now have my order with shipping date of the 5th, delivery by the 14th-15th. It's tempting to go for the 200Gb 5200rpm if it's not too much extra.

I am wondering if there's any update to the model I'm getting and that's pushing out delivery. I bought under an apple employee purchase program scheme, so got a good discount but wondering what's happening and if I should cancel my order and wait a week to see if the specs improve?

Cheers
Si
 
Eidorian said:
Yeah a MacBook to please my beloved's desire for a laptop and mine for a gaming rig.

Cheaper and more portable then a Mac Pro and I get an iSight.
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I'm picking up the mid-range model with my education discount any minute here lol
 
zioxide said:
Why couldn't Apple have added the 250GB BTO 2 months ago. Stupid. Now I'm stuck with a 120GB drive and I can't upgrade without voiding the warranty.
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If you have MacBook, you can do it yourself.

If you have MBP, you can have the drive upgraded by apple certified technicians without voiding warranty.

If you are in nova, I know apple certified technicians.
 
How does the educational discount typically compare to the reduced price for the older models? Does anyone know? Just wondering if it's worth a trip to CompUSA to see if I can get a midlevel one with the old specs at a great price (I really think it will meet my needs).
 
jockmock said:
Dude, you shouldn't be complaining. look at the european prices.. Here is the prices from the swedish store:

2.0ghz: 9.995kr = $1557
2.16ghz 11.995kr = $1869
2.16ghz 13.995 = $2180

So our cheapest model is more expensive than the blackbook
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Dude, I should be complaining (especially since the closest US Apple Store is a 90 minute drive from Toronto). You should just be complaining WAY more.
 
ughhhhhhhhhh I ordered the of the "old" one's Tuesday Night. - is it worth sending it back for a "new" one. And if it's a stock model, Could I bring to the store with a packing slip for an even exchange?
 
jockmock said:
Dude, you shouldn't be complaining. look at the european prices.. Here is the prices from the swedish store:

2.0ghz: 9.995kr = $1557
2.16ghz 11.995kr = $1869
2.16ghz 13.995 = $2180

So our cheapest model is more expensive than the blackbook
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WHOA !!!!!!!!! :eek:

that's a shame !!!! what i said in my previous post, apple is in its own way !!!!!!

it's like you could have a nice baked apple pie but they're giving you unpealed apples telling you that this is the only way to go ! same with the hardware specs !!!!
 
twomiracles said:
How does the educational discount typically compare to the reduced price for the older models? Does anyone know? Just wondering if it's worth a trip to CompUSA to see if I can get a midlevel one with the old specs at a great price (I really think it will meet my needs).
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Education discount knocks $100 off the price of all 3 MB models.

I was comparing edu to older refurbished MB's like a week ago and edu was still cheaper.
 
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