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It has been discovered how the botnet is installed. You have to download a pirated app, such as Photoshop, and then give the pirated installer administrator privileges.

No amount of malware security can fix stupid.

I say if you can't afford the original program/app & have to either steal it or use a pirated version, then you darn well better beware. :eek:

You always get what you pay for in the end. :D
 
I checked my Snow Leopard partition and my parents' older iMac running Snow Leopard, and XProtect updates were pushed out to those this morning also.
---Relief. I was hoping for an update for my parents' computer but not totally expecting one...
 
Just curious, has a "good botnet" ever existed? IE, one that automatically and without your knowledge adds you to FOLDING@home or some similar organization? How much computing power is out there that could be used for these projects, but isn't either because the owner doesn't know or the owner doesn't care? How much of it could you trick them into contributing through this?

Not saying someone actually should do this, but it's an interesting idea I've had for awhile.

edit: nevermind
 
What about the "Attention required Cloudflare" message that appears when opening some sites on some iOS devices ? Does that mean that these iOS devices are also infected by some kind of malware?

Relevant to your question.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6532812

Short answer no. Its HTML/Javascript scare tactic trickery that's been in use since infinite pop-up windows.

Among a lot of other things, I manage my company's website. We use Cloudflare for a couple of reasons, one is getting better performance, the other is to deflect DoS and DDoS-style attacks.

Backing up a bit, Cloudflare is essentially a caching service for websites. They cache your website's pages and serve them up at high speed, keeping most if not all requests off of your (probably much slower) server.

Cloudflare also detects attacks and requests from regions you don't want to deal with. For example, there no situation where we would ever be dealing with someone from China or Russia with our product, yet a lot of hack attempts come from IPs based in those regions (or are made to look so).

So we set Cloudflare to simply ignore those requests.

Other websites might decide that they'd like to serve up the page, but to make sure there's a person behind the request and not a DDoS bot. Hence, the request that you see - it's the website's administrator being suspicious of your IP address or requesting country.

So, no, not Javascript trickery, and there's no virus on your iOS device.
 
Ingenuous bit of hacking :cool:

Using Redd-edit user comments' Of off the comments, anyone would think mine craft is totally legit, who would otherwise suspect that ?

open the door to a whole new way of hacking, why not use the net, makes it easier for the bad guys, and separates the 'genuine article' from the users machine

Maybe this could start to be a whole new world for Apple. Now may be a good time to start now to maybe update XProtect more frequently, as more and more bad stuff are discovered.

its not the first time, and probably not the last either. :cool: ALl there is to say is "Welcome to the wonderful world of malware." "What took ya"
 
So this is all great information but is there a way to scan your system for this malware?

There's a folder to look for. Open the link in post #5 in this thread.

Can someone explain how this worm works? I didn't quit understand from the post.

It's not a worm.

The post didn't have the key info - it's downloaded as part of pirated software (and therefore is a trojan, not a worm).

If you don't download pirated software, you have nothing to worry about.
 
There's a folder to look for. Open the link in post #5 in this thread.



It's not a worm.

The post didn't have the key info - it's downloaded as part of pirated software (and therefore is a trojan, not a worm).

If you don't download pirated software, you have nothing to worry about.

it seems that checking for the folder below reveals if you are infected or not.

/Library/Application Support/JavaW

From the finder go menu, paste this into the box and press Go, if the system is clean, finder will tell you that no such folder exists.
 
Can someone explain how this worm works? I didn't quit understand from the post.

it's not really a worm but regardless, you get it by downloading and installing pirated software from a shady website or torrent. for more details see here:
http://www.thesafemac.com/iworm-method-of-infection-found/

if you don't willfully engage in such activities you are quite safe. by now you are safe in any case because xprotect will kill it anyway even you do try to install some pirated software that carries it.
 
Can someone explain how this worm works? I didn't quit understand from the post.

You go to a website with pirated software, thinking you can steal for example Photoshop. But instead of installing Photoshop, you install this malware. It's you doing it. Intentionally. With MacOS X telling you not to trust the software.
 
XProtect.meta.plist

Scroll to the bottom to a file called "xprotect.meta.plist". The date it was last changed will be the last time it was modified. Mine shows 9/18/14 […]

Interesting, mine was updated today at 17.05 (CET)
 
Is it just me or is Gatekeeper taking forever to verify things now? I downloaded Blender yesterday and when I tried to run it it took nearly 5 minutes to finish verifying it. now I downloaded a game and it has been over 20 minutes! :eek:
 
I can't say I expected any part of this story to happen.

Happen how? I can't understand what you're trying to say. You don't expect to ever find a trojan or you can't believe they covered the story?

Has anyone, anywhere, ever actually used ~/Pictures/iPod Photo Cache/ for anything besides deleting or hiding it?

I realize this is a signature, but it makes zero sense. It's like asking if anyone uses a browser cache directory. It's not for you to use, it's for the program to use, in this case for iTunes to store smaller resolution versions of pictures for a device that can only display so much resolution and has limited storage capacity (e.g. an iPod Touch for example). A better question might be why Apple puts a cache directory in the middle of photo directories where it's in the way if you store photos by directory, but then they dont' expect you to do that either. They expect you to let it compact everything into one database file for iPhoto which is stupid, IMO since a single file corruption could destroy them all, but then not everything Apple does makes sense.

But you don't just try to install pirated software. When you install it, MacOS X will tell you that you are installing software by an unknown developer. If that pirated software was _original_ Adobe or Microsoft software, it would just install, you wouldn't get a warning. (Surely Adobe and Microsoft are not "unknown developers" to Apple, right? ) If you proceed at that step, you don't only try to install pirated software which means your are criminal, you are also trying to install software that you should know has been manipulated, making you criminally stupid.

I'm not arguing for pirated software, but what you just said is beyond absurd and applies to all software that isn't a registered developer with Apple (i.e. much shareware, etc.). How do I know if Handbrake or XBMC is "safe" to install? I didn't get them from the App store... OMG! It simply MUST be malware! :eek:

In other words, using Apple's registered developer checks as a substitute for a malware checker isn't the best idea. BTW, "modified <> malware" either. My legit KOTOR2 game has been modified to restore content that was left out and a malware checker on Windows picked it up for the very reason you gave. It's modified. Yeah, but that doesn't automatically make it malware. There have been numerous registered developers that have had their software revoked for breaking Apple's developer rules so I wouldn't 100% count on a program not doing something it's not supposed to (like logging your personal information) JUST because it's available on Apple's App Store either. That's NOT a reliable method because it's only removed from the store if Apple themselves know about the hidden code.

Frankly, I see the words "stupid" flying around a lot in your post with a lot of flawed logic, IMO. Criminal (i.e. morals/ethics) and stupid (not smart) are two entirely different things. Most of the hackers out there wreaking havoc in the news are criminals, but they're anything but stupid and using such a label seems to be more for its insulting nature rather than any kind of accuracy on your part. Frankly, as I said above, you're implying anyone who installs ANY software that isn't recognized by Apple as a registered developer is "stupid" since that's the scenario you're implying which as I've indicated above does not just apply to pirated software. If you don't want to use XBMC or Handbrake or whatever, don't, but that doesn't make users who do stupid. You need a better method to find malware than Apple's developer program, IMO.

Is it just me or is Gatekeeper taking forever to verify things now? I downloaded Blender yesterday and when I tried to run it it took nearly 5 minutes to finish verifying it. now I downloaded a game and it has been over 20 minutes! :eek:

I don't think what you're talking about is Gatekeeper, but the disk verifier checking a DMG file for any type of corruption. You can usually skip that if you don't want to wait (i.e. I've never had a corrupt DMG in the past decade yet). I've seen it take 20 minutes to open a DMG that is very very large for that reason. Skipping the CRC verification avoids that delay if you can't wait. It has nothing to do with Gatekeeper, which only checks for ONE thing and that is an Apple developer signature. THAT only takes a moment and it does it when you RUN the program for the first time, not when you open the DMG archive.
 
Happen how? I can't understand what you're trying to say. You don't expect to ever find a trojan or you can't believe they covered the story?



I realize this is a signature, but it makes zero sense. It's like asking if anyone uses a browser cache directory. It's not for you to use, it's for the program to use, in this case for iTunes to store smaller resolution versions of pictures for a device that can only display so much resolution and has limited storage capacity (e.g. an iPod Touch for example). A better question might be why Apple puts a cache directory in the middle of photo directories where it's in the way if you store photos by directory, but then they dont' expect you to do that either. They expect you to let it compact everything into one database file for iPhoto which is stupid, IMO since a single file corruption could destroy them all, but then not everything Apple does makes sense.



I'm not arguing for pirated software, but what you just said is beyond absurd and applies to all software that isn't a registered developer with Apple (i.e. much shareware, etc.). How do I know if Handbrake or XBMC is "safe" to install? I didn't get them from the App store... OMG! It simply MUST be malware! :eek:

In other words, using Apple's registered developer checks as a substitute for a malware checker isn't the best idea. BTW, "modified <> malware" either. My legit KOTOR2 game has been modified to restore content that was left out and a malware checker on Windows picked it up for the very reason you gave. It's modified. Yeah, but that doesn't automatically make it malware. There have been numerous registered developers that have had their software revoked for breaking Apple's developer rules so I wouldn't 100% count on a program not doing something it's not supposed to (like logging your personal information) JUST because it's available on Apple's App Store either. That's NOT a reliable method because it's only removed from the store if Apple themselves know about the hidden code.

Frankly, I see the words "stupid" flying around a lot in your post with a lot of flawed logic, IMO. Criminal (i.e. morals/ethics) and stupid (not smart) are two entirely different things. Most of the hackers out there wreaking havoc in the news are criminals, but they're anything but stupid and using such a label seems to be more for its insulting nature rather than any kind of accuracy on your part. Frankly, as I said above, you're implying anyone who installs ANY software that isn't recognized by Apple as a registered developer is "stupid" since that's the scenario you're implying which as I've indicated above does not just apply to pirated software. If you don't want to use XBMC or Handbrake or whatever, don't, but that doesn't make users who do stupid. You need a better method to find malware than Apple's developer program, IMO.



I don't think what you're talking about is Gatekeeper, but the disk verifier checking a DMG file for any type of corruption. You can usually skip that if you don't want to wait (i.e. I've never had a corrupt DMG in the past decade yet). I've seen it take 20 minutes to open a DMG that is very very large for that reason. Skipping the CRC verification avoids that delay if you can't wait. It has nothing to do with Gatekeeper, which only checks for ONE thing and that is an Apple developer signature. THAT only takes a moment and it does it when you RUN the program for the first time, not when you open the DMG archive.

The file is out of the dmg file. I know you can skip that but I didn't. osx has been doing this to all my new software longer than it used to, it's been an hour for this... I already restarted it once. I do believe this is related to xprotect.
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lol as I submitted this reply it finally finished! it only took an hour. amazing. Ive never experienced this before and it did it for blender too and other even tinier software. booted on another hard disk with osx, it did the same, same on my macbook, this is a desktop.
 
Well, I'm stuck with Gimp because I'm adult and don't support piracy, and Photoshop is just too expensive for amateur photography, unless it's your main and single hobby. It's not my case, since I'm a multi-interest hobbyist. I even use the buggy Audacity for recording stuff I play with my guitar.

However there's a thing that really annoys me when installing software: allowing administrator rights. Ok, let's give administrator rights so the app can copy stuff to some system folders, but since it should not be the standard behavior of any app, why OSX doesn't give a more detailed explanation of what will be done with the root access I'm giving? It could throw that warning popup with a button providing additional details of the operation, don't you agree?

Pixelmator is a cheap but very good alternative to photoshop. I used it for semi-professional purposes and it works very good.
 
Thats an OTA update of definition. No actual update link or dmg to download. As long the computer has internet it will be updated automatically.

It takes more than just an Internet connection for the update to happen automatically. The Mac's system preferences also need to be properly configured to permit the download. That preference is on by default, but if somebody turned it off for some reason and never turned it back on, they won't be getting the Xprotect update.

For Mavericks, the setting is in the App Store preference pane, while under earlier versions of OSX it's under the Security & Privacy pane.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3662?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
 
Pixelmator is a cheap but very good alternative to photoshop. I used it for semi-professional purposes and it works very good.

Plus you need to pay monthly for Photoshop now, right (it's not a one-time purchase)?

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Criminal (i.e. morals/ethics) and stupid (not smart) are two entirely different things.

Crime and morals/ethics are not the same thing.

For example, Joe Paterno technically didn't commit a crime but he failed morally and ethically.
 
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