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Yeah I'm disappointed in this as well. The new integrated graphics is supposed to be far superior to the old one (2.5x for Iris Pro), but it obviously wouldn't be sufficient for serious gaming. I make a decent living, but I can't justify dropping $2,600 on a laptop.

Anyway, it worked out for me that my job has changed and I no longer really need a laptop. So I'll keep my old one and buy a new iPad instead. Maybe the prices will come down in a year or two.

Edit: Here are a couple links for Iris 5200 benchmarks.
http://us.hardware.info/reviews/477...s-review-the-end-of-mid-range-gpus-conclusion
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Iris-Pro-Graphics-5200.90965.0.html

The Iris Pro does much better than I expected. It still would be nice to be able to upgrade to dedicated graphics in the entry 15" model but at least the Iris Pro performs reasonably well.

My late 2011 model MacBook Pro will suffice for the time being though.
 
13" rMBP with 16Gb RAM and 512Gb SSD ordered - my first mac notebook after a very happy 18 months using a mac mini and a very frustrating 12 months with a crappy samsung laptop and windows 8...

After months of waiting for the updates and then having watched the announcement that few minutes it took for the store to come back online after the Tim left the stage seemed like days!


It'll have been a heavy few weeks for my broadband with 3.4Gb of Windows 8.1 last week (x2 - laptop and mac mini bootcamp install, no option to download an ISO without volume licence!) and now today there is iOS 7.03 (x2 - iPhone 5, iPad 3) 5.3Gb of Mavericks and then whatever the iOS and OS X iLife and iWork updates come in at, but they don't seem to be showing for me yet.
 
Seeing where their price model is going to, I can now believe a possible 12" MacBook with retina 1440p (2x720) vertical resolution. Next year they will be able to sell such a device with 4GB RAM and 128GB SSD for $999 or so. It will be the perfect entry level Apple device.
 
First off, love that they dropped the prices, I'm a college student so it will end up being $1,199 for the 13".

But honestly, the only thing that is holding me back is the Hard-Drive Space. I have a Mac Book Pro (2010) right now with a 250GB HD and I barely get by.... so downgrading to 128GB doesn't seem any better. You'll notice there is no upgrade to just the SSD, you have to buy the next one that has 8GB of RAM and the 256GB SSD. Bassically that means that if I get one, I'll be forced to get an external HD for all my media, games, and apps. That just kinda kills the idea of a laptop in the first place.....
 
Guys, anyone know how much VRAM the 15" MBP's Intel's Iris Pro 5200 has?

I've checked Apple's website but it doesn't mention anything at all.

Thanks
 
The pricing for the 15 inch retina in the UK is insane when compared to the US. It's the difference between $1999 and $2757 or another £468. It would actually be cheaper for me to book a return flight with BA to New York to pick up a new rMBP than go to my local Apple store!!!
 
Geez I still have my white macbook from 2007. New 13 inch macbook will be an upgrade, so question is can you not upgrade memory or ssd on these new ones? Are they soldered on or no? Thanks.
 
I'm fairly worried about only having 4GB of ram, if I don't edit videos will that be sufficient? Mostly going to be doing Pages, Keynote and Photoshop. I just don't like the form factor of the Airs, and don't want to pay an extra $90 for 4GB of ram, as I feel that is way overpriced. Thanks for your help.

It will be sufficient, but you might find that you run out of RAM 'here and there'. I've been using 4GB and until 2 days ago, I've upgraded to 8GB and noticed that my non-retina MBP is now frequently taking advantage of the additional RAM. Not only that, it's not 'over'heating as much as it used to from average use.

This is what is wrong with non0-upgradable parts in the retina MBPs. Apple's really screwing consumers over with their over-inflated pricing for upgrades.
 
Yeah I'm disappointed in this as well. The new integrated graphics is supposed to be far superior to the old one (2.5x for Iris Pro), but it obviously wouldn't be sufficient for serious gaming. I make a decent living, but I can't justify dropping $2,600 on a laptop.

Gaming. GAMING.

Although I play games on my lovely 2011 13.3' MacBook Air (well, only TF2, Kerbal Space Program and the Half Life series), the whole Mac-platform isn't exactly made for games. Of course, Steam and such platforms are growing on OS X, but still, any gamer is better off with that crap called Windows. Sadly.


Still, it will be great for every day use, especially in schools. Where I go to college, the whole place is filled with MacBooks and rMBPs.
 
The pricing for the 15 inch retina in the UK is insane when compared to the US. It's the difference between $1999 and $2757 or another £468. It would actually be cheaper for me to book a return flight with BA to New York to pick up a new rMBP than go to my local Apple store!!!

Yeah Australian prices didn't see a reduction too - $3199 AU for the top one (vs $2599 US). Even if you add 9% sales tax to US price - it's still over $200 more here :(
 
They kept the old 13" model around in Ivy Bridge trim for another month or so.

Either way, it's a sad loss. The last user-upgradeable Macs in history are now officially dead (or dead walking). I know compressed memory kind of makes RAM upgrades obsolete, and SSD prices will come down, but being able to upgrade your own machine is a thing of pride for me and many others. It means we don't have to buy new computers every year. Which is why Apple killed it.

Free OS X is nice, but come on, Apple. Turning the industry on its head? What, by locking in everyone? Disappointed.

Yeah I saw they kept one. The mini is still upgradeable.

Personally, other than ram and hd, I never upgraded anything else. Nor could you really.

I rather take PCIe flash based storage than the slower SSD's, even if it means losing that upgrade. As for memory, Apple now ships up to 16GB on the MBP. Too bad their pricing is still high. The issues of upgrading because of lack of memory given by Apple is more of a thing of the past.
 
Geez I still have my white macbook from 2007. New 13 inch macbook will be an upgrade, so question is can you not upgrade memory or ssd on these new ones? Are they soldered on or no? Thanks.

They are soldered and not user-upgradable. You'll need to buy it with the specs you'll need in one go, unfortunately.
 
Geez I still have my white macbook from 2007. New 13 inch macbook will be an upgrade, so question is can you not upgrade memory or ssd on these new ones? Are they soldered on or no? Thanks.

Memory is soldered (even the configuration page on the Apple Store makes a point of saying non upgradable, order what you need now), IIRC SSD was upgradable in the last model and I would guess will still be in the this one, but give it a few days and I'm sure the boys at iFixit will have one in bits to confirm this.
 
You mean Intel's R&D which might struggle to fab Broadwell chips.

Nope... Apple. With one purchasing a macbook, apple is to profit off of it & invest some of those profits into the next gen.

I care about a better display that uses less energy.
 
So glad I purchased my top of the line rMBP15 for 20% off 6 months ago - nothing worth waiting for on the new ones :)

Hate to say it, but I told you all so. :D
 
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