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I like Apple's hardware and operating systems. That's it. I try to never rely on their apps or internet services, because at some point they will fail, corrupt, or go offline. I'll stick with Google for online services and Spotify for music. Thanks.

Wait, what? Because Google is less corrupt or less likely to fail or go offline? Google might be THE most "corrupt" of all of the major tech companies if not for the simple reason that the consumer is their product. ("Corrupt" probably isn't the right word here)
 
And when you look at the quality to **** ratio of FM radio and TV programming, you realize why ad based anything is a bad idea.

Except those services had to fill a one-size-fits all system. The internet can support multiple streams, with feeds tailored for each individual person. Not only is the music more relevant to that person's interest, the ads can be as well. This significantly improves the "quality to **** ratio" you describe.

If you kill the free services, users will shift back to pirating. If you kill the paid services, the industry doesn't make enough money to survive. You need both.
 
The people who are forced out of the free version won't switch to Apple, they'll just go back to pirating.

Yep, that is my thoughts on the matter as well.

If you are too cheap to pay 10 bucks a month for a nearly unlimited library of music and not only get rid of the ads but also get better sound quality and the possibility to sync playlist to your mobile device for offline listening (like you can with Spotify) then you are simply not very interested in music.

I spend more money on lunch every single day than what a month of Spotify costs me. I think it is excellent value for money, and remember hoping for something like Spotify back in the late 90s; 'all the music in the world' for a fixed price. We're nearly there, and it is dirt cheap compared to what I thought the price would be back then :)
 
FTC anyone and anti-trust laws, anyone? Seems that :apple: realized (if true) that they threw out billions for a sub-par music service and now decided that the better one (Spotify) must die so consumers have to use their crappy service. Why not also kill all the headphone companies so that we have to use the crappy headphones (I use B&W ones)...

EDIt: That said - I am paying for Spotify premium but if Apple decides to beat that and have a Spotify-like service on iTunes I might be in for it, especially if I can easily buy tracks I like. However - Beats is still crappy
 
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Call me new fashioned, but I rather listen to unlimited music for half the price of an album with spotlight student pricing per month. $60 a year.

Call me a pirate I rather rip my music from YouTube and listen to it for $0/month
 
Is Apple going to kill off it's own iTunes Radio then? I kind of like it. I use it somewhat. I'll never pay for streaming music, but I do listen to the free itunes Radio though.
 
Good for Apple. I have no problem paying for music. Music doesn't magically appear. It take's a creator time and effort to do so, and they should be compensated. The current system doesn't compensate them fairly. Just because something CAN be had for free doesn't mean it should be.

Been a Beats subscriber for about 6 months now and have been overall happy. Paying $9.99 a month is nothing. People waste more daily on their Starbucks. If you love Music, $9 a month is a no brainer.
 
What Apple should be doing is giving an equivalent service to Spotify, but also giving people to option of buying 24bit/losslessly compressed versions of the song to keep.

At the moment I use Spotify free, but also like to buy the music if it is an artist I like/something I think is especially good. But if the music you purchase is of a higher sound quality than streamed, I would probably purchase more of it.
 
Wait, what? Because Google is less corrupt or less likely to fail or go offline? Google might be THE most "corrupt" of all of the major tech companies if not for the simple reason that the consumer is their product. ("Corrupt" probably isn't the right word here)

By corrupt I meant the software itself would corrupt. I really could care less about Google's business practices. They are hands-down the best internet service company, they make my life easier... Apple's services don't seem to have the same effect. And Google at least seems to be taking a pro-consumer stance on net neutrality and surveillance lately.

We are google's consumers because we want free services, and for now I'm ok with that; someone has to pay the light bill. If you don't like being tracked and data-mined, stop using free internet services (facebook, google, twitter, etc..........).

And FWIW, I'm a paying spotify, dropbox, and plex-pass customer. I will probably pay for google drive when I run out of space.
 
Oh thank heaven... for Public Service.

I'm so fed up with the current "quest" for individuality, everything has to be exactly the way everyone wants it, a million different options, anything less and it's a crime on humanity.

Couldn't care less for ad-based services be it via internet or broadcast. We have one paid Spotify account (my wifes) but I use it once every blue moon to actually look something obscure. For everyday listening, Swedish Public Service is great and all I need.
 
Another Apple-opoly Move

How about letting the market decide where we want to listen to our music, Apple. :mad:
 
Provided this rumor is true and not a smear campaign by competitors, it would be a crappy thing for Apple to do.

But I see no reason why Apple would do this since they stand to make money either way since they have iAd.

The labels put this out to try and get the upper hand on negotiations with Apple.
 
Excellent! That way we as consumers will begin to get crappy products from Apple since their money was snatched from them. Or we get better products the price will go up. Some of you guys, Oy Vey.

Obviously, your argument is nonsense :rolleyes: - a billion dollar fine is not going to break down Apple. They have many billions of dollars sitting in tax-free Ireland.
This fine would send a signal (as it has in the past with other companies trying to pull anti-competitive behavior like this) - don't use your monopoly-like power to suppress smaller competitors.
And you know who would benefit from that? The consumer...
I can't believe people are defending Apple in this matter - think different guys :rolleyes:
 
By corrupt I meant the software itself would corrupt. I really could care less about Google's business practices. They are hands-down the best internet service company, they make my life easier... Apple's services don't seem to have the same effect. And Google at least seems to be taking a pro-consumer stance on net neutrality and surveillance lately.

We are google's consumers because we want free services, and for now I'm ok with that; someone has to pay the light bill. If you don't like being tracked and data-mined, stop using free internet services (facebook, google, twitter, etc..........).

And FWIW, I'm a paying spotify, dropbox, and plex-pass customer. I will probably pay for google drive when I run out of space.
It doesn't make life easier. You have one company as the gateway to accessing the internet in Google. There are no other truly viable competitors. There is no way for anyone to escape the preview of Google if Google wants to track you on the internet.
 
It doesn't make life easier. You have one company as the gateway to accessing the internet in Google. There are no other truly viable competitors. There is no way for anyone to escape the preview of Google if Google wants to track you on the internet.

I can understand what you're saying, but Google does in fact make my life easier... Gmail, Drive, Calendar, MAPS (huge one), and on and on. They just flat out work.
I'll hop on the Tor network if I want to escape the watchful google eye.
 
Do you want piracy? Because that's how you get piracy.

LimeWire says hi.
 
I think the biggest shift is in the way artists/composers are being turned into product shills if they expect to earn any money from their work. Their music is treated as a throwaway by these cynical, gangsta players, and Apple is right there.

This.

The industry's greed has gotten so incessant, that consumers have now become so cynical and so blase and thus don't see any reason to pay/value in paying for an overly commercialized/commoditized product that only serves to enrich executives at the expense of musicians.

Rather than walling things off and muscling out the free/freemium services, there needs to be some kind of seismic shift/change in the industry with regards to artistic control and compensation.
 
Music labels need to have less power, not more.

Yeah, I can say the same thing about Apple. So you don't want the labels with all the power, you want Apple with all the power?

We all know business is cut-throat and Apple, if they could, like every company out there, would monopolize their industry(ies). Just because I like Apple products doesn't mean I want them to control the world, no more than Google, Amazon or Microsoft should.

This is beneath Apple. Provide the best product/service, and they will buy. Don't try to squash competition like that. Either go buy Spotify or stop with these tactics.
 
Doj needs money again!

Doj will be looking into apples new streaming svc as well, news at eleven.
 
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