Apple Urging Music Labels to Stop Licensing Free Songs on Spotify and YouTube

aaronsullivan said:
The problem with all these race to the bottom pricing schemes is that it actually sets a perception in the mind of consumers that there is less value in the product. Young consumers have no idea how much effort and actual money goes into creating content (music, movies, TV, videos and video games) and all they see is that it costs them less than breath mints.

No idea if Apple is doing this or what is really happening in these spaces, but free everything everywhere just hides the costs. Obfuscation causes all sorts of problems and may get immediate returns through growth and sporadic surges of mass response, but in the long term it just makes everything more complicated.

It's a bit like setting your clocks 10 minutes ahead so you aren't late anymore. It works for a day or two, and then you just have one more thing to calculate and figure out every time you look at the clocks.
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I think media products are perceived as less valuable because they are. The quality of music, TV, movies, even video games, has been declining for years. People also know that most of whatever they pay isn't going to the content creators but to middle men and faceless corporations. Paying $10-15 for most albums just doesn't offer the same value as a month of unlimited music access.

I'm hoping Apple really tries to shake things up, rather than just go with the flow, but they may just not have the power to change much. A $40-50 monthly subscription for a couple dozen channels, or a $9.99 unlimited music streaming subscription isn't revolutionizing anything, it's just a case of "me too".
 
Isn't freeiums music the reason some artist's started pulling their music from certain streaming platforms.
 
Tankmaze said:
Apple wants to stop free music video on youtube ? And also kill spotify?
Noooooo, f that.... I love apple but this is a dick move.
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Maybe it's time that more people open their eyes and discover that Apple aint the "nice company" many think they are.
They might THINK they rule the world, but infact they dont.
 
Let me tell you. I'm at my lowest confidence in Apple I've ever been. I'm easily at DEFON 2. With Yosemite and iOS 8.3 being crap for me in terms of WiFi issues (after clean installs) and Apple's abandonment of writing good software, and their move to high fashion... I'm at least hoping at WWDC we'll finally get an Apple TV box that has the power/potential of what we have all wanted it to do, with *great* pricing on live tv channels.

This is the post-Steve feeling I didn't want to have. It took 3 years, but it's finally hitting me. I really hope they can wow me like they used to. As of late, what they are doing doesn't wow me.
 
itr81 said:
Doj needs money again!

Doj will be looking into apples new streaming svc as well, news at eleven.
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"Doj needs money again!"

Apple's already proved they're more than capable of illegal & disgustingly unethical business dealings.

I'd say the DOJ is just looking at The Usual Suspects.
 
BigInDallas said:
wake up, Apple is all about the $$$
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You couldn't be more wrong.

As Jony Ive says:

"We are really pleased with our revenues but our goal isn't to make money. It sounds a little flippant, but it's the truth. Our goal and what makes us excited is to make great products. If we are successful people will like them and if we are operationally competent, we will make money"

More here:
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-07/30/jonathan-ive-revenue-good-design
 
Not cool Apple. Especially in regards to Youtube, where the licensing deal makes it possible for users to produce their own music videos.
 
This is a real rooster-inhaling thing to do, Apple.. :confused: I hope it doesn't follow through. I pay for Spotify already but this will snowball into other services, other areas, plant seeds for other things to be "bought" by Apple so they can simply outgun competition w/ their wallets. Not good...
 
512ke said:
Call me cheap, but I'm not paying to stream music.

I listen to FM radio in my car without paying. I watched TV for years without paying.

Charging everyone for music is only going to encourage even more people to get their music from YouTube.
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There is no such thing as free. You have paid for that somewhere along the line.
 
dumastudetto said:
You couldn't be more wrong.

As Jony Ive says:

"We are really pleased with our revenues but our goal isn't to make money. It sounds a little flippant, but it's the truth. Our goal and what makes us excited is to make great products. If we are successful people will like them and if we are operationally competent, we will make money"

More here:
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-07/30/jonathan-ive-revenue-good-design
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And you believe him? Cute, so naive.

Apple wants profit, every cent of it. It even goes further sometimes like making sure competitors dont get profit even if it costs them initially money. This is probably such a case.
 
derek4484 said:
Is Apple going to kill off it's own iTunes Radio then? I kind of like it. I use it somewhat. I'll never pay for streaming music, but I do listen to the free itunes Radio though.
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They probably won't kill that, since it's random. Their target appears to be servers which allow the user to choose which songs play.
 
dumastudetto said:
You couldn't be more wrong.

As Jony Ive says:

"We are really pleased with our revenues but our goal isn't to make money. It sounds a little flippant, but it's the truth. Our goal and what makes us excited is to make great products. If we are successful people will like them and if we are operationally competent, we will make money"

More here:
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-07/30/jonathan-ive-revenue-good-design
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Your grannies name really is Smith isn’t it?
If it’s not about the money do that part of it for no profit or give it away.
MURNAY! He loves is just as you and I do.
 
Diaz72 said:
Call me old fashioned, but I would rather just own my music.
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Bot4Hire said:
"Doj needs money again!"

Apple's already proved they're more than capable of illegal & disgustingly unethical business dealings.

I'd say the DOJ is just looking at The Usual Suspects.
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Doj are the usual suspects. Doj failed tax payers when they bailed out the big bank's and carmaker's. We just finished paying for that back in dec 2014. Doj could have prevented the banking disaster, but they never enforced them. The doj has a tendency to let things slide for big industry until their failure causes them to lose money and or puts a lot folks out of work.
 
dumastudetto said:
i call bs on this report. this is not something apple will ever do. they will compete with a superior product and service as they always do. if spotify is free or not it won't help them apple will win this war.
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Yeah, this is not something Apple would ever do. Just Apple and *every* other company out there given the chance. Good thing we have regulations for stuff like this...

The truth hurts, and it took me awhile to realize it. Apple doesn't care about me or you. If while they make their billions, they get some happy fans along the way, that's just gravy. Apple is only in business to make money, not sexy products.

But I'm ok with that. I don't trust Apple any farther than it takes me to press the power button on my MacBook Pro. But that's the relationship we both entered into.
 
furi0usbee said:
My father kept going and is back to reel-to-reel. No joke. My old bedroom has turned into a wall-to-wall museum of tapes and boxes. He also rips his vinyl.
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I just bought 4 Cat Stevens albums for a buck each on vinyl. Beats any other legal method by far.
 
If this turns out to be true, it will only add to the reasons why I'm starting to move over to Android. This sounds like something Microsoft would have done 18 years ago.
 
Mike MA said:
I guess times change...hard for me as well.

This is what actually kills the artists, they are not paid accordingly...
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Artists never made any real money on album sales/play anyway, unless you were a big band and you owned the publishing, or unless you sold 10 million copies that is. The real money is made touring/selling stuff. You may not release an album in any given year, but touring you can still make millions every year. More true for big acts like U2 or Rolling Stones, who can make $200million just for showing up.
 
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