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Apple device users are largely underwhelmed by the iPhone 13 lineup and the Apple Watch Series 7, according to the findings of a new survey by SellCell.

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The survey asked 5,000 iPhone users aged 18 or over in the United States between September 23 and 30 what they thought of the recently announced iPhone 13 models and Apple Watch Series 7.

64 percent of users said that the iPhone 13 lineup is "not very" or "not at all" exciting. 21.5 percent felt that the iPhone 13 models are "somewhat" exciting, and only 14.4 percent said that they are "extremely" or "very exciting."

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A minority of respondents, 23.3 percent, intend to upgrade to an iPhone 13 model, which is a 20.5 percent drop from a pre-launch survey conducted two months ago that put purchase intent for the iPhone 13 as high as 43.7 percent. This indicates a significant decline in interest around the iPhone 13 after it was announced.

Among the 23.3 percent that intend to upgrade to an iPhone 13 model, the 6.1-inch iPhone 13 Pro is overwhelmingly the most popular pick with 42.5 percent of responses. The 6.7-inch iPhone 13 Pro Max was the next most popular with 26.3 percent, followed by the standard 6.1-inch iPhone 13 with 22 percent.

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The 5.4-inch iPhone 13 mini continues the trend of the iPhone 12 mini, with just 9.2 percent of respondents intending to buy the smallest iPhone 13. Apple's smallest iPhones have struggled to gain traction with a significant proportion of consumers over the past year, leading to the expectation that Apple will discontinue the 5.4-inch model size in 2022 in favor of a new, larger 6.7-inch "iPhone 14 Max" model.

Of the 23.3 percent that plan to upgrade, the main reason to do so was the ProMotion display and longer battery life for 34.1 percent and 25.3 percent of respondents, respectively. 26.2 percent said that there was no clear reason to buy an iPhone 13 model but they were simply due an upgrade or were locked into a yearly upgrade or trade-in program.

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The iPhone 13's camera improvements, such as larger sensors and Cinematic mode, have been among the features most heavily promoted by Apple this year, but just 5.4 percent of respondents planning to upgrade cited the camera improvements as the main reason to upgrade.

Likewise, the new 1TB storage option was only credited by 3.2 percent of users as a reason to upgrade. The much-decried notch, which finally saw a 20 percent reduction in size on the iPhone 13 models, was commended by only 1.5 percent of respondents as a main reason to upgrade.

Of the 76.8 percent of existing iPhone users who are not interested in buying an iPhone 13 model, 29.3 percent said that the lack of a Touch ID fingerprint scanner was the main factor for holding off. 19.5 percent said that there were no major features to warrant an upgrade, but other criticisms included the lack of an always-on display, a notch-free design, 120Hz on the standard models, and a USB-C port.

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New color options, such as Sierra Blue and Starlight, were the main reason to upgrade for 1.1 percent of respondents. On the other hand, 2.4 percent said that dislike of the available color options was the main reason for not upgrading.

36.8 percent of those that are not planning to upgrade said that they are waiting for the iPhone 14 instead. 16.1 percent are switching to an Android device, with 45.1 percent of these users planning to buy a Google device, 41.8 percent planning to buy a Samsung device, and 8.4 percent planning to buy a OnePlus device.

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With regards to the other products that Apple announced at its California Streaming special event last month, 18.2 percent of iPhone users are planning to buy a new iPad following the launch of the sixth-generation iPad mini and ninth-generation iPad.

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Like the iPhone 13, the Apple Watch Series 7 also appears to have underwhelmed users according to the survey, despite its larger display, more durable design, and faster charging. Just 7.5 percent of iPhone users said that they are planning to buy an Apple Watch Series 7 model. Pre-orders for the Apple Watch Series 7 open on Friday, October 8.

Article Link: Apple Users Underwhelmed by iPhone 13 and Apple Watch Series 7, Survey Shows
For me this is definitely no. If you are upgrading from iPhone 7 or 8 I would say yes. If you have iPhone 11 or 12 I would say it is waste of money upgrading to iPhone 13 as those phones already have super great battery and camera
 
You could pack an iP11Pro into a blue bumper and pretend it is the blue one with the new edgy design.

Nobody's gonna know ....
If you buy it from a reseller in mint condition, you could also save 50%
Nobody's gonna know ....

I appreciate the advice, but I don't really care if others think I do or do not have the latest phone. I only upgrade every 2-3 years, so I buy the latest and use the device. Also, I already have my phone so this advice is late. If you were referring to my mother-in-law, she likes to take photos so she may or may not find the latest photo features helpful. She typically does not upgrade often either, so again, buy the latest and use it.

Buying used is a great option for some, my concern is not really knowing the phone's history. Perhaps that is less important now that phones are water-resistant to a much better degree than earlier iPhones but like buying a new car vs a used car, sometimes buying a new car is just a better option.
 
Miniature phones are not a flagship for one very good reason. People (except for these 20-30 ones) are not interested in them. Therefore companies won't spend their resources to make them flagships.
That’s circular logic.
 
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I was underwhelmed with the 13 pro max having a 12 pro max.

first time I skipped since… iPhone 3G I believe.

On one hand though I’m not so much underwhelming as I’m impressed with my current device. In the past few years I’ve only really upgraded because I promised my devices to other family members.
I'm just the opposite. I usually upgrade with every other iPhone release but decided to go for the 13 Pro Max to replace my 12 Pro Max. I was a little worried that it would be one of those meaningless spec upgrades like I now have an A15 vs A14 but couldn't tell the difference. I'm glad I was wrong about that. The camera and battery life upgrades are very noticeable. For those two improvements it was worth it for me. The screen is noticeably better but I feel a smoother looking screen isn't really making the device do anything better. I like it but that wouldn't add it as a reason to upgrade for me. With the trade in it was about $300 so I think it was well worth it for me.

Of course the things I liked might not matter for some people. If your battery is already lasting longer than you need it to making it last even longer won't help. Same with the camera. Not everyone takes lots of pictures so if you don't then it's not really an upgrade.
 
Lack of TouchID is why I’m not buying a new iPhone yet. I’ll keep dragging along with my iPhone 6s.

It’s getting painful, though, because the battery was never good, I’m on my second, and it’s wearing out. Worse: websites are more bloated than when iPhone 6s originally came out. Twitter is abysmal. It’s sluggishness scrambles keyboard/text suggestions/autocorrect behavior. Then there’s the typing lag in every app with text boxes. That started some time last year even without changes to the OS, so I assume it’s a services problem on Apple’s end.
 
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I appreciate the advice, but I don't really care if others think I do or do not have the latest phone. I only upgrade every 2-3 years, so I buy the latest and use the device. Also, I already have my phone so this advice is late. If you were referring to my mother-in-law, she likes to take photos so she may or may not find the latest photo features helpful. She typically does not upgrade often either, so again, buy the latest and use it.

Buying used is a great option for some, my concern is not really knowing the phone's history. Perhaps that is less important now that phones are water-resistant to a much better degree than earlier iPhones but like buying a new car vs a used car, sometimes buying a new car is just a better option.
You did not get my point. There is very little to no difference between an iP13 pro and an iP11 pro - compared to an iP13, the iP11 pro wins.

So basically there is no reason to upgrade to the „latest“ just because it is the latest. It is just a waste of money and produces waste. iPhones from a reseller in mint often ship with 12 months guarantee and 100% battery.

The iPhone development stalled.
 
There is no way to make an exciting new technology on a yearly basis , the product has matured. People who are excited about the camera maybe you should buy a camera instead of a phone with lens.

People who say Mini is a small factor, you are brained washed, the screen is larger than iphone7 screen which is a larger phone that the 4 and 5 versions. So the Mini screen is larger than 7 which itself is larger than 5, how is this Mini?
 
Taking photographs is a very difficult process for any camera, it is certainly convenient to have it on your phone and use it when communicating, but still, I think this technology deserves to be a separate device.
I certainly agree.
We can only bend the physics so much.
Hence I always bring my dedicated camera when the occasion arise (traveling, exhibitions, et cetera).
For everyday use though, I am willing to compromise for the convenience if the quality is good enough. (This is where my Xperia comes in.)
 
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You don't statistics much do you?
If that were an intelligible sentence, I’d gladly take on your haughty conflation of “statistics” with what are actually market surveys, and I’d handily demonstrate to you why the OP’s observation of a sampling bias is valid. It’s risky business to attempt snarkiness, as yours demonstrates.
 
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You did not get my point. There is very little to no difference between an iP13 pro and an iP11 pro - compared to an iP13, the iP11 pro wins.

So basically there is no reason to upgrade to the „latest“ just because it is the latest. It is just a waste of money and produces waste. iPhones from a reseller in mint often ship with 12 months guarantee and 100% battery.

The iPhone development stalled.

I got your point, you’re a reseller and this makes your viewpoint bias.

Some people don’t like used electronics, there isn’t any reason to troll them for this.
 
When upgrading from an iPhone 8 Plus, the jump to the iPhone 13 pro max was remarkable. The only reason I upgraded was for the 120hz refresh rate.
 


Apple device users are largely underwhelmed by the iPhone 13 lineup and the Apple Watch Series 7, according to the findings of a new survey by SellCell.

Apple-Watch-7-and-iPhone-13-Boring-1.jpg

The survey asked 5,000 iPhone users aged 18 or over in the United States between September 23 and 30 what they thought of the recently announced iPhone 13 models and Apple Watch Series 7.

64 percent of users said that the iPhone 13 lineup is "not very" or "not at all" exciting. 21.5 percent felt that the iPhone 13 models are "somewhat" exciting, and only 14.4 percent said that they are "extremely" or "very exciting."

iphone-13-reaction-sellcell.jpg


A minority of respondents, 23.3 percent, intend to upgrade to an iPhone 13 model, which is a 20.5 percent drop from a pre-launch survey conducted two months ago that put purchase intent for the iPhone 13 as high as 43.7 percent. This indicates a significant decline in interest around the iPhone 13 after it was announced.

Among the 23.3 percent that intend to upgrade to an iPhone 13 model, the 6.1-inch iPhone 13 Pro is overwhelmingly the most popular pick with 42.5 percent of responses. The 6.7-inch iPhone 13 Pro Max was the next most popular with 26.3 percent, followed by the standard 6.1-inch iPhone 13 with 22 percent.

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The 5.4-inch iPhone 13 mini continues the trend of the iPhone 12 mini, with just 9.2 percent of respondents intending to buy the smallest iPhone 13. Apple's smallest iPhones have struggled to gain traction with a significant proportion of consumers over the past year, leading to the expectation that Apple will discontinue the 5.4-inch model size in 2022 in favor of a new, larger 6.7-inch "iPhone 14 Max" model.

Of the 23.3 percent that plan to upgrade, the main reason to do so was the ProMotion display and longer battery life for 34.1 percent and 25.3 percent of respondents, respectively. 26.2 percent said that there was no clear reason to buy an iPhone 13 model but they were simply due an upgrade or were locked into a yearly upgrade or trade-in program.

reason-upgrading.png

The iPhone 13's camera improvements, such as larger sensors and Cinematic mode, have been among the features most heavily promoted by Apple this year, but just 5.4 percent of respondents planning to upgrade cited the camera improvements as the main reason to upgrade.

Likewise, the new 1TB storage option was only credited by 3.2 percent of users as a reason to upgrade. The much-decried notch, which finally saw a 20 percent reduction in size on the iPhone 13 models, was commended by only 1.5 percent of respondents as a main reason to upgrade.

Of the 76.8 percent of existing iPhone users who are not interested in buying an iPhone 13 model, 29.3 percent said that the lack of a Touch ID fingerprint scanner was the main factor for holding off. 19.5 percent said that there were no major features to warrant an upgrade, but other criticisms included the lack of an always-on display, a notch-free design, 120Hz on the standard models, and a USB-C port.

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New color options, such as Sierra Blue and Starlight, were the main reason to upgrade for 1.1 percent of respondents. On the other hand, 2.4 percent said that dislike of the available color options was the main reason for not upgrading.

36.8 percent of those that are not planning to upgrade said that they are waiting for the iPhone 14 instead. 16.1 percent are switching to an Android device, with 45.1 percent of these users planning to buy a Google device, 41.8 percent planning to buy a Samsung device, and 8.4 percent planning to buy a OnePlus device.

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With regards to the other products that Apple announced at its California Streaming special event last month, 18.2 percent of iPhone users are planning to buy a new iPad following the launch of the sixth-generation iPad mini and ninth-generation iPad.

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Like the iPhone 13, the Apple Watch Series 7 also appears to have underwhelmed users according to the survey, despite its larger display, more durable design, and faster charging. Just 7.5 percent of iPhone users said that they are planning to buy an Apple Watch Series 7 model. Pre-orders for the Apple Watch Series 7 open on Friday, October 8.

Article Link: Apple Users Underwhelmed by iPhone 13 and Apple Watch Series 7, Survey Shows
Again, here in September 2023 and post-iPhone 15 announced, still extremely underwhelming. Very disappointed in Apple’s lack of innovation
 
Fortunately for Apple, Apple device users are just a part of the entire market. And, when it comes down to it, non-current Apple device user dollars are just as good as Apple device user dollars. :)
 
Sure, it's a very innovative feature - or at least was when it was invented many decades ago.


Oh, you mean innovative by Apple. No, sorry.
Innovation isn’t always literally creating something new. What other smartphone has the ability to do SOS via satellite and free at that. Professionals usually have to buy equipment for SOS and maybe even have a service for it, now the iPhone owner has that emergency capability.
 
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I certainly agree.
We can only bend the physics so much.
Hence I always bring my dedicated camera when the occasion arise (traveling, exhibitions, et cetera).
For everyday use though, I am willing to compromise for the convenience if the quality is good enough. (This is where my Xperia comes in.)

You can always "bend" physics with AI. Apple already does that to a degree, but to reach the next level (e.g, reconstruct a scene into very high resolution from a low resolution photo or even into a 3D image), they would have to invest further into AI research. They have been lagging in that for a while – just look at chatGPT.
 
Again, here in September 2023 and post-iPhone 15 announced, still extremely underwhelming. Very disappointed in Apple’s lack of innovation
These devices are just more creeping incrementalism - offering the least possible innovation that could not be dismissed as no change whatsoever. Where there is change - for example the prism camera - plenty of capacity is kept back for greater zoom capability next time around. Yawn!

So here’s to yet another year of not updating phone or watch.
 
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Innovation isn’t always literally creating something new. What other smartphone has the ability to do SOS via satellite and free at that. Professionals usually have to buy equipment for SOS and maybe even have a service for it, now the iPhone owner has that emergency capability.
… how have I managed to do without this feature, without feeling any lack whatsoever, for over 60 years??? Wow.
 
Again, here in September 2023 and post-iPhone 15 announced, still extremely underwhelming. Very disappointed in Apple’s lack of innovation
Cross-posted from another forum.

My upgrade cadence is every fourth year. I'm coming from a 12 Pro Max, so some of the improvements I'm getting on top of a vastly improved SoC:

  • Display: always on; ProMotion (10-120Hz refresh rates); +200 nits typical brightness/+400 nits peak brightness; notch replaced with a "Dynamic Island"
  • Cameras: 48Megapixel main camera (vs 12MP); up to 5X optical zoom (vs up to 2.5X); Smart HDR 5 (vs Smart HDR 3); macro photography; ProRes, macro and shallow depth of field for video recording
  • Connectivity: satellite SOS/roadside assistance; Wi-Fi 6E (vs 6); Bluetooth 5.3 (vs 5.0); Thread networking; USB-C with USB 3 (assuming 3.1 Gen 2 based on 10Gbps speed, vs Lightning with USB 2.0)
  • Battery: +9 hours video playback; +13 hours streamed video; +15 hours audio
  • Other: improved gyro and accelerometer; dual ambient light sensors; -7 grams/-0.22 ounces

I am very, very happy with the upgrade coming my way this year; and between the $460 trade in credit and splitting the payments over 24 months, my wallet won't notice it too much.
 
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Cross-posted from another forum.

My upgrade cadence is every fourth year. I'm coming from a 12 Pro Max, so some of the improvements I'm getting on top of a vastly improved SoC:

  • Display: always on; ProMotion (10-120Hz refresh rates); +200 nits typical brightness/+400 nits peak brightness; notch replaced with a "Dynamic Island"
  • Cameras: 48Megapixel main camera (vs 12MP); up to 5X optical zoom (vs up to 2.5X); Smart HDR 5 (vs Smart HDR 3); macro photography; ProRes, macro and shallow depth of field for video recording
  • Connectivity: satellite SOS/roadside assistance; Wi-Fi 6E (vs 6); Bluetooth 5.3 (vs 5.0); Thread networking; USB-C with USB 3 (assuming 3.1 Gen 2 based on 10Gbps speed, vs Lightning with USB 2.0)
  • Battery: +9 hours video playback; +13 hours streamed video; +15 hours audio
  • Other: improved gyro and accelerometer; dual ambient light sensors; -7 grams/-0.22 ounces

I am very, very happy with the upgrade coming my way this year; and between the $460 trade in credit and splitting the payments over 24 months, my wallet won't notice it too much.
AT&T & Verizon has a $1,000 trade in..
 
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