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WELL SAID! This is exACTLy how I feel

This 3G is an attempt to go mass market. BIG MISTAKE! THE 3G is budget!!!!

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You've said this about 18 times so far on this forum, but do you have ANY proof at all? Have you any technical specs that ANY part of the 3g iphone is lower quality? I agree there will very likely be a v3 of the iphone which I suspect will have a lot of what we were expecting to see in this version, but to say the 3g is budget is a totally unfounded, baseless, hyperbole statement.
 
wow a lot of speculation you guys are getting worked up...anyway, is there REALLY a difference between the touch and iphone screens?
 
Ok, so say you buy an iphone 3g, and then a few months later, a higher-end 3g model with aluminum back and all the bells and whistles comes out. Do you think we will be able to sell our iphone 3g's for a decent amount in a few months? I'd really like to get one, since I have waited this long to get an iphone, but I don't want to wait months and months longer for a high-end version that is just pure speculation at this point...

The only spec bump you will see before the full iPhone 3.0 with iChat in June 2009 will be the exact same 3G phone now but with 32GB before the holidays.
 
This is from September of last year. Didn't Apple address this issue?

yeah apple already addressed this issue with a firmware upgrade. I remember everyone making a big deal about this when it first came up. However, the screens are the same. And as someone said before, it makes no sense for apple to produce two different quality same sized screens to try and make something cheaper. It's more efficient to use the same screens for 2 products.

On another topic how can people say Apple switching to a plastic back is a step back in quality? If anything it's a step UP in quality for mere fact of reception quality ALONE.

I think people don't understand that both apple and att are both taking an initial hit in profits (some reports say att is taking the biggest hit by subsidizing the cost of the iphone and wont see a profit from it till 2010). The point is to get more users to buy the product.
Cost of components from a year ago will obviously be cheaper now, and if apple is cutting costs anywhere then it's obvious that they're cutting it in pack ins with the iphone..smaller power plug lack and lack of dock.

None of this is new this is how the ipod price was reduced. They switch out included docks, sourcing their clickwheels internally rather than externally through synaptics....and there's already evidence of the iphone going that route as well.

Seriously people...take a moment and just think rationally
 
Apple did add 3G and GPS for the same price, they had to cut costs elsewhere...

I would imagine they would switch to using the same screen as the Touch - less unique parts to manufacture with.
 
:eek: OMG :eek: I was leaning toward the 3G iphone until now. I guess I'm gonna run to my local store now and get a new BB.
 
Well the OP is half right on this one. Yes the original iPhone's screen is noticeably better than the iPod touch's screen (I had both at the same time). The iPhone had slightly better color reproduction and was brighter. But the screen resolution and ppi is exactly the same. Most wont notice the difference unless you look closely but it is there.
 
Well the OP is half right on this one. Yes the original iPhone's screen is noticeably better than the iPod touch's screen (I had both at the same time). The iPhone had slightly better color reproduction and was brighter. But the screen resolution and ppi is exactly the same. Most wont notice the difference unless you look closely but it is there.



Your wrong! Apple iPhone buyers , at least of the original, look at the details with passion! Take for instance the original lcd version fiasco where everyone wanted certain series screens. Well your gonna wish for that old screen as soon as this BUDGET model hits your itchy little hands. BUDGET BUDGET BUDGET! Apple has gone Kmart on us with this cheap imitation version of what was almost perfection! NICE WERK !

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If this was anyone but Apple I might buy into this "sky is falling" attitude, but name one product that Apple builds that quality of the product isn't the #1 priority.
You may not like all of the stuff they make and I'm not saying everything they do is perfect, but use some common sense. The iPhone is as big as it gets for them right now. Why would they build a cheap piece of crap like every other phonemaker? If they have a huge push to get you to buy games and movies for the phone, why would they give you a bad screen.
Makes no sense. If they do I would be shocked.

Market share. Think about it. Jobs has wall street breathing down his neck, he needs more units sold. Trust me, I know.

As for this not being a budget phone, it is.

-Cheaper screen
-Cheaper back (I do not want to hear better reception, that is an excuse not a reason)
-No dock

What is next? No AC adapter?
 
Steady - i heard that BB are using the same inferior screen as the iPod Touch, but cut in half... they would be better off with half a Gen 1 iPhone screen...

I'm pretty sure this isn't true since the Blackberry Bold's 'half-sized' screen has the same resolution as the iPhone.
 
I like that we now have 2 pages of people debating the differences between the iPod and the iPhone's screens and the merits of using the Touch's screen in the iPhone.

I find it all interesting because we still have NO PROOF that the 3G iPhone and the iPod Touch are using the same screen.

The ONLY fact the OP showed was that they have the same DPI. Uh, ok. So what? Everything with the same DPI is the same product now?

How is that "proof" of anything?

Everyone admits that the first iPhone and iPod Touch had different quality levels, and they had the same resolution. So if "same resolution" doesn't equall "same quality" why does "same DPI" equal "same quality?"

Someone explain that to me, if you can.
 
i think people are equating the 199 price with "cheap" ..remember these are subsidized so the real sellling price is like 400-450...and the component costs came down...i think you gotta step back and think about it more than the initial sticker shock
 
I'm pretty sure this isn't true since the Blackberry Bold's 'half-sized' screen has the same resolution as the iPhone.

Sorry, that was a bit of British facetiousness.. and was blatantly a complete lie. I was alarmed that someone would run off and buy a BB due to the iPhone 3G having an 'inferior' screen.. :)
 
I was wondering about that too. The switch from metal to plastic was more about cost savings than anything else and you can bet the screen was swapped for cheapness. Again this route only makes sense if a new high end model is in the works. Otherwise this might become a fatal mistake for apple and their cell phone ambitions.

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Actually it seems the case was primarily changed to reduce interference. The metal case was causing touble with the signals and the iPhone.
 
No, you are guessing. Plastic is for better reception. They are going
to great pains to make this BETTER. My proof? When they put glass
instead of plastic on original iphone screen.

So easy to bash a company which continues to excel.
 
-Cheaper back (I do not want to hear better reception, that is an excuse not a reason)

When will Apple learn that we don't want their products to WORK better? I, like you, get upset when they change something so it works better than before.

When will Apple see the error of their ways?

(And don't get me started on better battery life...we want worse batteries, Apple!)
 
Guys, do some research before posting stuff like this. We have THREE hands-on articles! Is three too many to read? One of them specifically brings this up - the person had an iPhone with them, they compared the two screens, and the ONLY difference they could tell was the iPhone 3G screen was a tad brighter (though that could have been because it was brand new while the article writer's iPhone was a year old).
 
I think someone needs to lock and bury this thread before this sort of negative, unfounded rumor gets wide-spread. Look at how people in this thread are reacting already from baseless speculation.... a brief online spec listing and a comparison from an article that's nearly a year old and was from right at the launch of the iPod touch, which has since been fixed.... seriously... do some research before you post up something like this to get people in a frenzy... I'll just quote a couple posts since they said it pretty well:


yeah apple already addressed this issue with a firmware upgrade. I remember everyone making a big deal about this when it first came up. However, the screens are the same. And as someone said before, it makes no sense for apple to produce two different quality same sized screens to try and make something cheaper. It's more efficient to use the same screens for 2 products.

On another topic how can people say Apple switching to a plastic back is a step back in quality? If anything it's a step UP in quality for mere fact of reception quality ALONE.

I think people don't understand that both apple and att are both taking an initial hit in profits (some reports say att is taking the biggest hit by subsidizing the cost of the iphone and wont see a profit from it till 2010). The point is to get more users to buy the product.
Cost of components from a year ago will obviously be cheaper now, and if apple is cutting costs anywhere then it's obvious that they're cutting it in pack ins with the iphone..smaller power plug lack and lack of dock.

None of this is new this is how the ipod price was reduced. They switch out included docks, sourcing their clickwheels internally rather than externally through synaptics....and there's already evidence of the iphone going that route as well.

Seriously people...take a moment and just think rationally



Guys, do some research before posting stuff like this. We have THREE hands-on articles! Is three too many to read? One of them specifically brings this up - the person had an iPhone with them, they compared the two screens, and the ONLY difference they could tell was the iPhone 3G screen was a tad brighter (though that could have been because it was brand new while the article writer's iPhone was a year old).
 
They've been using the same screen all along. There were some issues with the first generations of the iPod touch's screen but those have been corrected.

Steve has been touting that they have used the same screen from the beginning. AND for the last time! Apple didn't lower the prices of the iPhone 3G, they're being subsidized. There is no more cost cutting done with these phones than there was with the first generation iPhone.
 
Cheap Cheap Cheap!! All of Apples products will go like this!

Before you guy's brought this up I was watching the new mobileMe Quicktime movie demonstration! He has the new iphone and i thought then, that their was a strange Yellow ness, Sepiad Glow from the screen. :eek::apple::mad:

One More Reason Not to waist £400!!! on V2 (Pay&Go)..
 
I'm going to use my V1 for a week or so after the release. Cant wait to read the reviews on the new one. The Saturday, Sunday and Monday after release will be some interesting reading!


/then Im going to run out and buy one:)
 
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