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Apple Video Game Console?

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appleintelrock said:
Honestly, I don't know how apple could produce a gaming system.
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Apple is not going to make a playstation like gaming console... instead they are going to bring all the world of warcrafters in to the living room where they can then sit for hours and hog up the big screen :D
for apple to go for an independent platform like Xbox of ps3 is highly unlikely. If they could make a graphics blade, or just a more capable mini, they could have a PC gaming machine that would connect thru iTv to be playable on our tv's. This would truly bring apple in to the living room.
and may bring some die hard pc gamers over to the Mac side.

is it possible to make a graphics blade to connect to a mini :confused:

seems like if they did it would look like an iTv...
you know if you stacked the three of them on top of eachother they would look like the fabled mac mini tower ;)
 
The idea is extremely improbable.

I think Apple has a fundamental disdain for gamers. Apple users are thinkers, creators, innovators. Not button mashing, smack talking, chip eaters. Now, Macs might be used by the people creating games, particularly those producing art assets and music, but actual sweaty gamers defiling a Mac, Yuk!

There seems to be a misunderstanding in some of the comments here of the hardware it would take to compete in the living room. The notion that somehow a mini could be pressed into service is literally laughable. In many ways it would take Mac Pro level performance, with better graphics than are available in BTO. Anyone spotting that Apple would need to sell pro level performance for less than $1k?

Who would write games for it? I don't mean Breakout or Bejewelled, but actual top tier games like Gears of War. Those games cost millions. Who in their right mind would invest that for game hardware from a company that hates gamers.

Apple would be far better off building a Blueray player with itunes streaming capability. They would be competing in the stereo isle, at well over $1K, with a compelling feature set other standard High Def players can't match; the fairplay drm lock in. A competitive gaming system is well beyond Apple's capabilities or desires.
 
I could see "iTV" being able to play games that are sold for the iPod. Currently, the iPod games are the only iTunes content that do not work on a computer.
 
Sounds like elitism.

tnielson said:
The idea is extremely improbable.

I think Apple has a fundamental disdain for gamers. Apple users are thinkers, creators, innovators. Not button mashing, smack talking, chip eaters. Now, Macs might be used by the people creating games, particularly those producing art assets and music, but actual sweaty gamers defiling a Mac, Yuk!
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So, if people play games then they're unlikely to be "thinkers, creators, innovators", going by your reasoning? I take it then that either you're a creator or an innovator?

Before you stereotype all gamers, consider Apple's "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" ads. I'd say that the very people that Apple are now trying to win over (& IMO, embarrassingly so!) are likely to have at least some interest in gaming.

Most computer owners I know play computer games, even though that wasn't their main reason for buying a computer. They also like OS X, but they'll never buy a consumer Mac because of limited graphics. For sure, Apple will continue to lose countless potential switchers like these.

It's sad that Apple is still associated with the type of elitist inanities people like you seem to take pride in.
 
gregorsamsa said:
So, if people play games then they're unlikely to be "thinkers, creators, innovators", going by your reasoning? I take it then that either you're a creator or an innovator?
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Yeah, I wrote that unclearly. It is my contention that it is Apple’s own self image that leads to a deep rooted disdain for gamers. I think Apple itself believes the statements that concern you. Not necessarily at every level, but at the levels that matter.

I'm a gamer. I was a Mac gamer from ’84 through the first time I saw a 3dfx Voodoo 1 card. Once Voodoo started shipping it was grimly clear I had been vanquished. With great regrets and guilt I defected to the dark side. From a gamers perspective I’ve never looked back. The quality, quantity and performance of the games I wanted to play increased many fold.

From a computer users perspective, however, I look back all the time. It has been extremely frustrating to see the machines I would like to own (Macs) and not be able to because Apple doesn’t want my business.

Apple just doesn't have the drive needed to build a console that competes with companies that actually embrace gamers. They don't have the stomach for it, and wouldn't be effective.

btw, I'm the furthest thing from a creator or an innovator you'll find on this board (also inane, but not an elitist).
 
tnielson said:
Apple would be far better off building a Blueray player with itunes streaming capability. They would be competing in the stereo isle, at well over $1K, with a compelling feature set other standard High Def players can't match; the fairplay drm lock in.
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I agree. I want to see an iTV with Blueray, even if its at a higher pricepoint then the "current" iTV. I dont want to add boxes in the living room, I want to consolidate them.
 
tnielson said:
I'm a gamer. I was a Mac gamer from ’84 through the first time I saw a 3dfx Voodoo 1 card. Once Voodoo started shipping it was grimly clear I had been vanquished. With great regrets and guilt I defected to the dark side. From a gamers perspective I’ve never looked back. The quality, quantity and performance of the games I wanted to play increased many fold.

From a computer users perspective, however, I look back all the time. It has been extremely frustrating to see the machines I would like to own (Macs) and not be able to because Apple doesn’t want my business.

Apple just doesn't have the drive needed to build a console that competes with companies that actually embrace gamers. They don't have the stomach for it, and wouldn't be effective.
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Forget my "elitist inanities" remark; it clearly doesn't apply to you & was an over-reaction on my part. I just meant to say that many gamers are also "thinkers, creators, innovators."

I don't disagree with your latest post. Apple making a foray into the console market would indeed be a disaster for the reasons you mention (I posted similar views a few days ago). But Apple placing better graphics in some of their consumer Macs would, IMO, still go a long way to attracting more switchers into embracing OS X...easily the best OS out there. The more switchers Apple attracts, be they gamers or whoever, the better it'll be for the long-term future of OS X.

BTW, I too have contemplated going over to the "dark side" for similar reasons...however, come what may, I'll definitely be keeping my Mac!
 
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