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Apple Vision Pro Battery Isn't Hot-Swappable, Switching Requires Restart

Surf Monkey said:
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False comparison. You don’t interact with your eye mask and headphones.
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False objection. Whether someone interacts or not with their eye mask wasn't the point, the point is airline customers already accept people that wear things that cover their eyes or ears or necks for that matter. How much sillier can someone one look than some of those pillows out there?!
 
DavidSchaub said:
I still really wonder if there is some mechanism to detach it, or for Apple to "repair" a damaged cable.

Related is the bizarre part where the Apple Store page calls it a USB-C cable... which amuses me to no end.

I asked Niley if he tried to remove it, and he said that he pulled pretty hard, but didn't want to break his review unit.

There's still the mystery of the (presumably) USB-C dongle that are shown in all the dev videos, and whether you can power the device from that instead of the battery pack? :)
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There we go... Not USB-C on EITHER side:

www.threads.net

Raymond Wong (@sourlemons) on Threads

l used a SIM card push pin to "unlock" the cable connected to the Apple Vision Pro battery pack. It popped right out
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Absolutely within expectations of being removable if needed.
 
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I would have expected to put the device to sleep and be able to change the battery, then resume using it.
Having to fully shutdown the device to change batteries is not expected for the 21st Century.
 
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whatever else you want to say about the AVP, we havent had this many comments on a battery since the whole 'battery gate' fiasco.
 
jclardy said:
Everyone is upset about not being hot-swappable. But to me this is a great thing - if it was hot swappable, this headset would have a tiny battery, constantly being charged up/discharged to ensure it is always ready. That means the headset itself has a very finite lifespan, however long that tiny battery lasts. Then you would have to pay apple for a $700 battery swap because of how delicate the procedure would be. With this - the Vision Pro can be used 10 years from now by just buying an eventual third party battery with a cloned connector.
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Or they could just do it with 2 ports, plug new battery in, disconnect old one
 
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ckorhonen said:
What does this mean in terms of using an external battery to charge the battery pack? How many charges will I get out of a 10,000mAh Anker powerbank?

I'm also curious what the overall power draw of the Vision Pro is - with the 30W charger, will that be able to drive the headset and top up the battery at the same time? What is the lowest wattage charger I can get away with in order to power the device?
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Plugging in a power bank to charge an external battery is peak Apple.
 
nfl46 said:
Withheld it? Apple just made 800+ million since January 19th.

You can’t expect a perfect device with version 1 because the first iPhone darn sure wasn’t perfect. Apple is in this for the long run. Maybe V1 isn’t for you, just wait until V2 or V3 and those limitations will be removed.

Everyone knows V1 will be expensive, have limitations and will get cheaper and better as time goes on. It’s like this with just about every product in the world.
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Apple is mature enough as a company to get 'killer' features like EyeSight and Battery life perfect in a V1 product. It's not like they're lacking experience developing screen based mobile devices.
 
Chuckeee said:
TWO smallish monitors that share a similar video feed plus a bunch of cameras. But typically the out of pocket cost is higher than $3500
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Functionally, as a product, this is a $3500 monitor for one person. It's not about component cost, it's about what you use it for. The Vision Pro does not have multi-screen support. This is not a productivity device. It's not a camera or a substitute for an iphone camera or webcam. It is a media consumption device - a monitor that only one person can see, with a 2 hour battery life, that doesn't connect to windows desktops, for $3500.

The only use case people are actually talking about is 'I can watch movies on a plane'. Except you won't be doing that for more than 2 hours, or during take off and landing, and it will effectively count as your carry-on baggage.

So it's a monitor whose most touted use case is more restricted than the one you already have in your pocket.
 
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wikiverse said:
Functionally, as a product, this is a $3500 monitor for one person. It's not about component cost, it's about what you use it for. The Vision Pro does not have multi-screen support. This is not a productivity device. It's not a camera or a substitute for an iphone camera or webcam. It is a media consumption device - a monitor that only one person can see, with a 2 hour battery life, that doesn't connect to windows desktops, for $3500.
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Still for most purchasers the out of pocket cost is more than $3500
 
windowsblowsass said:
Ok so if I hook up this to my 19.2ah 52v e-bike battery how long can I expect the Vision Pro to last?
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Just in case this isn't just being facetious and so people don't become more misled.... it's not a simple conversion because electronic devices operate at specific voltages.

In this example the battery will need to transform its output voltage from 52V to 12V, which will result in some energy loss. Typical battery packs do this - usually the efficiency is like 70% so assuming you have the appropriate down-voltage transformer, you're looking at... well I'm just gonna copy paste @heinzel's answer - 55.5 h * .7 ~= 39 hours.
 
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BarrettF77 said:
What I don’t understand is is why is this enclosure so incredibly large versus the size of what the battery pack is in an iPhone 15 and how skinny that is and yet it’s bigger on the phone. I feel like there’s additional stuff in there or they’re not using the space very well.
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Protection for battery, thermals ?
 
Chuckeee said:
½ sec for a once time application?
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Assuming you can step it down
masotime said:
Just in case this isn't just being facetious and so people don't become more misled.... it's not a simple conversion because electronic devices operate at specific voltages.

In this example the battery will need to transform its output voltage from 52V to 12V, which will result in some energy loss. Typical battery packs do this - usually the efficiency is like 70% so assuming you have the appropriate down-voltage transformer, you're looking at... well I'm just gonna copy paste @heinzel's answer - 55.5 h * .7 ~= 39 hours.
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nice this about to be the heaviest but longest lasting Vision Pro anybody ever seen.
 
Would have been good if it was hot swappable but was not expecting it to be.
 
DavidSchaub said:
There we go... Not USB-C on EITHER side:

www.threads.net

Raymond Wong (@sourlemons) on Threads

l used a SIM card push pin to "unlock" the cable connected to the Apple Vision Pro battery pack. It popped right out
www.threads.net www.threads.net

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Absolutely within expectations of being removable if needed.
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It does have USB C to the charger, as someone said before the internal battery connection from battery to the circuit board on your phone doesn't have to be USB C. Although this battery is external it is part of the system. So it seems they are satisfying the USB C requirement.
 
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m7ammed said:
It does have USB C to the charger, as someone said before the internal battery connection from battery to the circuit board on your phone doesn't have to be USB C. Although this battery is external it is part of the system. So it seems they are satisfying the USB C requirement.
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The product is a USB-C device, no doubt.

I'm just joking that Apple describes the cable, that comes with the Apple Vision Pro Battery as something that:

"...connects to your Apple Vision Pro using a woven USB-C cable"
 
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Return Zero said:
it would be easier to slide in a USB-C cable to a battery pack in my hands that I can see without removing the device
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With the power off how well can you see?

Le0M said:
Plane, train, hotel, they all have wall socket. Don't they?
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A USB port such as on a plane likely will deliver less power than if you are connected to the power supply. Will it be able to charge faster than it is discharging?

Amazing Iceman said:
I would have expected to put the device to sleep
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Sleep mode uses power. The sensors that would be needed to wake up the unit if it is picked up would have to be powered.
 
masotime said:
In this example the battery will need to transform its output voltage from 52V to 12V, which will result in some energy loss.
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An earlier post implied that this would not work. Speculates that the reason for all of the pins on the connector is that it is delivering multiple voltages that are specific to cameras, sensors, cpu, etc. in the VP. We will have to see.
 
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