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Yeah how are Apple going to get away with this with the EU? Really hope future Vision Pros use type c on the device itself. Is there any reason why it’s yet another stupid proprietary connector?
It's not a mobile phone. The EU regulation for USB C power connectors would not appear to apply to the device. Regardless, the powerpack itself has a USB connection on it anyway for the onward connection to the charger, so even if it were to apply, it still meets the rule.
 
Yeah I commented on this earlier. EU are gonna have a stroke when they see this. That’s assuming they ever get it. Personally I think AVP is a commercial depth charge already on its way down, but that’s an unpopular opinion so I won’t labor the point 👍
To be fair, they might get away with it this time as I think the deadline is by the end of this year, if it even comes in future (it’s such a beta product they may skip some markets for a while)
 
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It's not the headset. It's everything that will occur (in a confined space) leading up to wearing it... which likely occur in reverse approximately 2.5 hours later. Whether for the novelty, or a lack of situational awareness, it will be a scene.
I still don't understand. Do you have the same problem if I use my phone? Or a laptop?
 
Up to 2hrs battery for a $3500 product is terrible, in my opinion.
This is a gen1 product in an all-new category. Early PowerBooks had 2 hours of battery life and cost as much or more (adjusted for inflation). Now MacBook Pros go all day. I'm sure over time they'll improve battery life as the product is refined and technology advances.
 
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It's funny watching everyone correct the MacRumours article, and completely ignore the fact that the correction is still pretty garbage. Most people are gonna end up tethered to a power outlet, at which point you may as well just have a monitor at a desk.

Honestly, Apple should have withheld this for a couple more years and removed a lot of the limitations people are mentioning in the early reviews. No one was in desperate need of this product.
I expect there will be clip-on power banks (clipping onto the AVP battery) by third parties, similar to battery cases for the iPhone.
 
Is the Vision Pro sweatproof? You’re gonna ruin that lovely headband trying to do workouts honestly
The light seal cushion which rests against your face inside the light seal does appear to be waterproof. It also appears to be easily replaceable as they provide two, and its magnetic. With the quest, there are a multitude of available aftermarket face seals, some of which are better for workouts, etc. You should try a workout in VR. You'll be blown away.
 
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Up to 2hrs battery for a $3500 product is terrible, in my opinion.
Think about it as $3500 product with no hours, and it comes with a free 2 hour battery.

I'm sure they(third party) will release bigger longer lasting batteries at some point.
 
I still don’t see how they’re going to get away with it in the EU though. Maybe that’s another reason it hasn’t come out there yet, perhaps a type c model is coming
They’ll get away with it because the battery is part of the device - can’t function without it. Compared to a computer with a battery mounted in its case (with a proprietary connector) that is charged externally by USB-C. The only difference here is the battery is external. It still charges by USB-C, as required.
 
EU meddlers won’t be happy about a proprietary battery pack if this thing makes it to European shores 😳
the battery itself is charged over USB C, that surely satisfies regulators. It's akin to having a proprietary battery inside the product just, well, outside the product.
 
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A: Can't even power the device through a single regular length movie.
Reviewers have reported it lasting for over three hours. One reviewer watched Avengers Endgame with a single battery charge.

B: The cable can't be disconnected, so if you damage the cable the whole thing needs replacing. Horrible design choice.
The reason likely is that they want to prevent the battery disconnecting by mistake, which could lead to dangerous situations when the wearer suddenly can’t see anything anymore and is in mid-movement.
 
Phones and laptops are established.
The VisionPro a novel $3.5K device, plus accessories... people are people, air travel is air travel... there will be an adjustment period with very interesting moments.
So what if other passengers can't stop staring? It's not like the wearer of the Vision Pro need take any notice of them whatsoever - they can just retreat into their private virtual space and block out any jealous humanity nearby.

And if you're suggesting that others might do something unwanted physically, then that would be heading towards assault, and people typically get thrown off planes for that.
 
What I don’t understand is is why is this enclosure so incredibly large versus the size of what the battery pack is in an iPhone 15 and how skinny that is and yet it’s bigger on the phone. I feel like there’s additional stuff in there or they’re not using the space very well.
mAh is a unit of charge, it is not a unit of energy.
Wh is the proper unit for energy.

Energy (J) = Charge (A) * Voltage (V)
Power (W) = A * V / Time (h)

multiply both sides by Time, and you have

Power (W) * Time (h) = A * V
Wh = A * V

To get energy, you need to have the voltage (V) of the battery, not just the charge (A).

I really hate how marketing has misinformed the general public on the proper measure of energy capacity of… literally everything.
 
It's not a mobile phone. The EU regulation for USB C power connectors would not appear to apply to the device. Regardless, the powerpack itself has a USB connection on it anyway for the onward connection to the charger, so even if it were to apply, it still meets the rule.
You may be right on the device type thing, but if Apple were able to get away with not having the on the iPhone by they 100% would have, but they didn’t so…
As long as it is USB-C chargeable, which it is, there is no problem.
No it’s not. Apple would have kept the iPhone with the lightning port if this was the case, since they already supplied a type c to lightning cable in the box
 
I want a backpack battery pack with a week of charge. Wish I’d had the coin for this. Would be fun to set a record for not taking it off. Livestream the whole experience
 
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