Mutiple monitors (for instance) is hard to understand? You need elaboration?
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Apple Vision Pro Headset Likely to Launch Around March 2024
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I didn't realize 4 people can use the Vision Pro at the same time 😂🤣
If it is going to be released in the US in March 2024 but then in Canada and the UK towards the end of 2024, it will give the citizens of both countries 9 months to decide if they want to buy it or not because once it is released there will be 9 months worth of reviews from websites and social media for them to make their mind up if it's worth paying the price for such a thing.
Most people watch sports, concerts, and movies at home. Some will have the rare experience of going out once in awhile to an event, movie theater, or concert venue. If this will sometimes make that home viewing experience much better, then it may be worth it. Really all depends on the content production and how much can be added to the experience in terms of "extras" that can't be had anywhere else or through any other format. I'd love to be able to tap on a player and instantly pull up their stats, - lifetime, season, game, etc.
When I'm at a live NFL game, I rarely witness more than a tiny sliver of what is going on during the game when I'm in my seat and rely on my phone for actual play by play information. I spend nearly half my time procuring beer and the other half disposing of processed beer where I can at least catch the game on the screens around the stadium.
In the past I've listed a couple dozen applications a few times here. Ranging from AR-assisted cardio-thoracic surgery (at the high end of the spectrum), to building/home architects, interior decorators, landscape architects, having a way to give clients realistic "walk-throughs" of proposed designs.
There are many more. It's pretty much limitless. It just takes a wee bit of imagnination by developers.
And I strongly disagree about connection having nothing to do with how productive a meeting is. Having been in many hundreds over my engineering career.
I don't have the money to burn, I won't buy it for that very reason (not because I don't want to, but because I can't), but I AM INTRIGUED. I honestly haven't felt as giddy over a product reveal as during the Vision Pro one's in a long long long time.
Yeah, VR and AR goggles have been around. They were predominantly marketed for gaming. Which is fun, I guess. I mean, it's like one step removed from an actual holodeck.
But, I'm just really really excited about the technological advances. And while *I* personally don't have a use case right now, I can FEEL this has a LOT of professional potential way beyond video games and video calls. Some of which you and I and most regular consumers can't even imagine right now. I can already see how this will become big in medicine and engineering and science. You just have to give it time to grow into its potential. Like the iPhone did. Like the iPad did. Those where taunted as gimmicks way back when as well, and now, look where we are...
I know one of the main reasons to buy this is to replicate being in a place you aren't, but... I don't think any form of technology (excluding stuff that literally just brings you there, like portals) can replicate that exact feeling of going somewhere new - adventuring.
Like, say you want to go to a new coffee shop that just opened up, and say that Apple added support for Vision Pro users to go inside it. When you're in there, the virtual furniture and your own furniture don't line up, meaning you can bump into stuff. You also won't be able to conversate with anybody who actually works there, just people who are in the virtual area. You can't order coffee inside it, you need to place a delivery order. This also means you can't sit down and actually drink said coffee. You can't go to the bathroom, you need to take off the headset and use your own. You can't have the satisfaction of a "clink!" in a tip jar, you just donate digitally through Apple Pay or whatever. You can't watch them prepare your coffee in real time.
Do... do you guys see the issue, here? You can't really do anything social with a headset. You can travel to virtual areas, and they do look nice, but it just doesn't have any of the benefits of the areas it emulates. It also feels really stuffy if you stay inside and don't do anything active. If you want to have fun, go to a new place, I don't think this is the right device for that.
If you’re saying take everything they say with a grain of salt, yes of course. If you’re saying they are always lying, thats too extreme. But regardless of what they say, what leads you to say it is looking like they will get rid of the eye display?
Doesn't the 3D effect just come from two screens showing you slightly different perspectives and then the brain creates the perception of space? Or is your brain tricked so far that it even refocuses based on how far away an object is perceived to be?
I’m aware of the niche professional (”expensive” due to limited potential licenses sold) uses for AR/VR technology. I’m hoping someone can show me something compelling enough for the general public to want to buy this particular device.
This whole thing seems incredibly dystopian. I remember prior to Apple Watch Tim Cook on stage saying nobody wants to wear glasses unless they have to but the wrist was “interesting”. Now he (and Apple bloggers like John Gruber) want us to believe consumers will gladly wear big, bulky googles on their face? So they can show off a perfect ‘persona’ of themselves on a Teams call? Seriously? This might be really cool tech but it’s tech for tech’s sake. It’s a solution in search of a problem.
Well if when the iPhone 14 was released Apple said the 15 will have USB-C, sales of the 14 would have been affected by the Osborne Effect. This isn't about stretching the truth, this is about good business sense.
Am I seriously the only one who also sees how proper, high-quality VR/AR can significantly increase inclusiveness for the disabled community?!
I'm not disabled, but a global pandemic had me attend multitudes of virtual scientific conferences over the past several years. I hate them. They've been celebrated at creating inclusiveness, which I totally agree with, because yes, they do. But scientific conferences over zoom or whatever just. is. not. the. same.
Now, a VR conference where you actually feel like you're in the room with the other attendees, that's better on magnitudes.
I agree, I think it will mostly be for a smaller group of buyers at first (the well off and professionals), then it may be a mass consumer device after awhile when the product has had time to mature expanding its uses, plus hopefully costs coming down somehow.
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Instead of physical folds + crease or rollable screens, a much bigger screen wherever you want it???
If 16" MBpro starts at $2499, what would we pay for 17"? 20"? 24"? 27"? 34"? Conceptually, this can deliver ALL of those in the same, small package. I hope so. If it does this one thing well, I'm IN. I recently paid $2K for a single-size monitor that will basically sit in ONE spot for life of the device. I love its huge screen but it's definitely not a mobile, take & use anywhere screen. And when I have to go back to the laptop size, productivity plunges. So if I can summon the big screen anywhere I'm traveling to get some work done, this seems far better than foldable laptop screens (and their heft & weight) to me.
I don't consider bigger virtual screen niche at all... probably the opposite of niche.
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No, I wasn't referring to this being bad for disabled people. But the person I was replying to used the headset as a substitute for family vacations, which... no
Admittedly it’s been awhile since I’ve used my Oculus (no time!), so I would need to double check, but I believe you are free to focus your eyes at whatever the perceived distance is, the only difference from real life being that in VR (and I guess AR) you don’t get the fuzzy double image of the thing you’re not focusing on. Can’t check at the moment because my Oculus isn’t set up (I moved somewhat recently), but I for sure remember using it for several hours straight without my eyes at all being tired afterward. The headset was the bigger discomfort.
Yes, but "This is cool!" wears off after a few days.
It's the use case that puts long-term life into a product, and I still don't see any value or interest there for the average consumer.
Like other headsets, this will be destined for the lonely unused equipment dusty shelf in the game room.
So after spending many years and millions of $, Apple hasn't thought this through and is just winging it, hoping to get lucky?
Like iPod, Tablet, Watch, AirPods, etc. ?
Nothing really happens in a NFL game anyway.
It is not a consumer product, currently. It's neither marketed nor priced as one.
It's a niche product for consumers and tech enthusiasts.
It's a product with a lot of potential for specific pro use cases.
Those are valid. Products like that are valid. You're not the target demographic? Maybe just move on, then?
Every time in threads like these, I'm quite astounded by the amount of people who think every single product on the planet needs to be for them. And if they have no use for it, it apparently has no right to exist.