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Why should I buy a device that controls my whole view? Imagine what that does with the "focus muscles" in your eye. Even if that image looks like 3D, your eyes will always focus at exactly the same distance while your are wearing it. That is very unhealthy.
That’s not how it works at all.
Things are still simulated in the headset at different distances, it is very much not the same as holding up a tutti display to your face.
I might be mistaken, but from what I remember, the Vision Pro has most of its windows by default, at least 5 feet away from you in AR.
 
Think about all the savings with Vision Pro. For example a family of four now spending $3500 for decent seats to a professional sporting event can now just use the Vision Pro and have even better seats for every game! Just one of many life experience examples btw.
And how much will they charge for "seats" in their Vision Pro app?
 
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That’s because a camera is a live feed of your current look and environment. A Persona can be created when you look your “best” - clean shaven, makeup, etc. and that’s how you’ll look for every meeting / FaceTime. Your room / office / etc won’t be on camera either, so it’s just less distracting and more focused than FaceTime and typical video chats.
I dunno, I like to see what time has done to my colleagues - helps me not feel too old. I'd hate to be looking at their perceptions of themselves - the room would be full of gorgeous people, all a bit taller and slimmer than they really are, with perfect hair, golden tans and white teeth all over the place.

Give me reality any day.
 
I just hope it comes with the M3, 16 gigs of ram and 1 terabyte of storage at this price so I don’t have any doubts or possible regrets about this purchase.
 
Compared to the cost of few long-distance flights, the price (even of this first version) seems relatively modest - and since (I presume) one of its major functions will be to make you feel as if you’re in the room with people on the other side of the world, I can definitely imagine a market for it. Video calls have already become ubiquitous for and this feels like the next step. I guess we’ll have to wait for next spring to see if it really does live up to its promise, but I don’t think its potential for magically bringing people from far away together should be underestimated.
But wouldn't this only be useful when others on the call all have one as well? It just seems like an extreme cost per user for a benefit whose novelty may wear off quickly too.
 
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Most people watch sports, concerts, and movies at home. Some will have the rare experience of going out once in awhile to an event, movie theater, or concert venue. If this will sometimes make that home viewing experience much better, then it may be worth it. Really all depends on the content production and how much can be added to the experience in terms of "extras" that can't be had anywhere else or through any other format. I'd love to be able to tap on a player and instantly pull up their stats, - lifetime, season, game, etc.

When I'm at a live NFL game, I rarely witness more than a tiny sliver of what is going on during the game when I'm in my seat and rely on my phone for actual play by play information. I spend nearly half my time procuring beer and the other half disposing of processed beer where I can at least catch the game on the screens around the stadium.

A lot of people watch sports, concerts, movies and tv with other people. Having to have one of these for everyone in the room is ridiculous.

I almost never watch sports and movies alone.
 
Modest? The idea behind the tech is excellent but you can see how Apple have struggled to bring it to market with the weight being the major drawback, the external battery packs etc. Happy to let people Beta test the hardware for a few years before I consider dropping a small fortune on something that is trying to solve problems that do not exist.
Struggled to bring it to market? It was only just announced, and no release date was given. How is that a "struggle"?
 
I plan on buying a few for my AirBNB-like Vision Pro rental business.

Hell to cut costs, I will probably just rent them out thru the AirBNB app.
 
Am I seriously the only one who also sees how proper, high-quality VR/AR can significantly increase inclusiveness for the disabled community?!

I'm not disabled, but a global pandemic had me attend multitudes of virtual scientific conferences over the past several years. I hate them. They've been celebrated at creating inclusiveness, which I totally agree with, because yes, they do. But scientific conferences over zoom or whatever just. is. not. the. same.

Now, a VR conference where you actually feel like you're in the room with the other attendees, that's better on magnitudes.
I 100% promise you that COVID-19 will not be the last time we have lockdowns/shutdowns because of viruses. I expect these types of pandemics to increase, and for lockdowns/shutdowns to happen again (either by government order, or by business decisions).

I think Apple is getting ahead of the curve.
 
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Why should I buy a device that controls my whole view? Imagine what that does with the "focus muscles" in your eye. Even if that image looks like 3D, your eyes will always focus at exactly the same distance while your are wearing it. That is very unhealthy.
As far as focusing being "unhealthy", that's not really true, as people blink and look around from their screens all the time. At the very worst after a long period you get eye strain. Your ciliary muscles don't really wear out until you start getting presbyopia (age-related changes in your lens), when they start losing elasticity. Take a break, get a cuppa and you'll be fine.
 
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what can u actually do on it, it has no killer feature, I had the quest 3 for 2 weeks was fun the first few days but then just didnt need it. these are gimmicks and wont take off
being able to have a full large screen desktop at a decent res while traveling for work is a pretty killer feature for me personally. I’m not going to bite on a rev 1 apple product like this and ask IT to buy it, IT would tell me “no, not yet”, but rev 2 may reel me in even on that alone
 
Don't see why you would buy this unless you have the money to burn, have more money than sense, or you want to develop for it.

Most people should just wait for the 2nd gen headset or even the 3rd or 4th. I'll maybe get one when we're on the 4th or 5th gen and they have a "cheap" SE version or something.
Maybe...they want to use it to get work done and it fits the use case. Its a country with a lot of different technology needs.
 
All this "cheaper" speculation should call out what they want reduced/eliminated to make them cheaper... because that's the Apple way of getting to cheaper. Some key candidates:
  1. Lower resolution. Cut this from 4K per eye to- say- a 1080p HD view and price could be towards comparable HD glasses/goggles already in market.
  2. Fewer cameras, likely reducing functionality
  3. Weaker SOC, likely resulting in slower responsiveness
  4. Cheaper build quality
  5. Less battery life/*battery sold separately
  6. No audio (bring your own)
Pick 1+ from the list and reduce the price accordingly. Those dreaming of steep price cuts are probably going to have to chop MOST of those, especially the first 4.

Option 2: wait for first gen to be "OLD" and that usually offers a lower price when next gen or next-next gen is out. See old iDevices still for sale now. Of course, "we" can't seem to want anything less than "latest & greatest" but that is a known Apple path to cheaper.

Option 3: involve OPM (other people's money) to subsidize it. The cell phone subsidy is about $1000. Put a cellular modem in it, offer a virtual iPhone when using it and offer it at $1000 off with 2-3 year cellular contract? I can't think of many other comparable subsidy channels: some kind of educational offering (like a school providing a "free" laptop/iPad) and Apple gets their money from the "enhanced" tuition at that school? $3,500 direct is insane, but $3500 indirect among $40K/yr tuition is "what a deal!"?

I suspect too many are believing that all features & benefits will be preserved but Apple will just cut their margin. Best I know, that has NEVER happened... and is unlikely to start here.

Someone will refer back to the original iPhone, quickly getting a fairly steep price cut after fan "will pay anything" enthusiasm thinned out... but that's because Apple adopted the subsidy model- still getting paid in full but by AT&T... who recovered the subsidy and then some from the cell service fees sold to those iPhone buyers.
None of those can be cut without making it a device that defeats its own innovations.

What can be cut - glass front and build in out facing screen that displays you through the glasses. I think thats a good candidate. Nothing else really is.
 
I’m aware of the niche professional (”expensive” due to limited potential licenses sold) uses for AR/VR technology. I’m hoping someone can show me something compelling enough for the general public to want to buy this particular device.
The general public has no need for a Mac Pro tower. They still exist and get sold. I think the Vision Pro will be like that for a long time and maybe forever.
 
Amazing how a product that almost all of us have never used or even seen in person draws so many negative responses…
I am looking forward to try one out once they become available for in store demos, I think there’s huge potential …
 
Imagine how the adult entertainment industry will embrace this technology.
Is VR still a thing for adult? I can't say I really know anyone that has a VR rig and would admit to using it for adult content. I guess "I'm playing a VR game, will be done in ~10 minutes" might be a little sus.
 
I’m reminded of when apple dropped the iPod and the iPad. “No killer use” “no point”

The killer use is the entire product. The killer use is that these will all be strapped to our faces soon.

I’m sure the tech is amazing but I’m not looking forward to this world. I already hate my cell phone and all my other tech.

But man just in plane rides alone this would be epic.
 
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