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I can't stand FB/Meta, but what are you worried about specifically with a headset/platform from them?
I don't do banking or shopping or important life/business/finance things on a headset
What is the risk or concern you have?
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Apple Vision Pro Launches in China, Hong Kong, Japan, and Singapore
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Why?
I can't stand FB/Meta, but what are you worried about specifically with a headset/platform from them?
I don't do banking or shopping or important life/business/finance things on a headset
What is the risk or concern you have?
I bought mine here in the US when it first came out and never regretted it. It is a fantastic device and a glimpse into the future of technology. I use mine almost everyday and in many ways. It is certainly worth what I paid for it.
I am amazed at what capabilities it has. I see its future potential and want to be part of that growth and experience it to the fullest. I would even pay the prices that it is going for overseas. With Apple, like many things in life, you have to look at the value, not just the price. You have to be able to appreciate quality and good design. They are often worth the price you pay.
I see its value in the classroom. 3D learning, interactive learning, participatory visualization and experiencing different places and cultures will eclipse any entertainment or productivity uses of it now. Its uses and value for the future can not begin to be imagined at this time. Besides replacing every device you have now (laptop, TV, etc) it will have an impact on how we learn, live and interact. Stretch your imagination and think of all the possibilities. For me, the Vision Pro is my doorway to the future and with it,
It is worth having it now and being part of that growth
I am amazed at what capabilities it has. I see its future potential and want to be part of that growth and experience it to the fullest. I would even pay the prices that it is going for overseas. With Apple, like many things in life, you have to look at the value, not just the price. You have to be able to appreciate quality and good design. They are often worth the price you pay.
I see its value in the classroom. 3D learning, interactive learning, participatory visualization and experiencing different places and cultures will eclipse any entertainment or productivity uses of it now. Its uses and value for the future can not begin to be imagined at this time. Besides replacing every device you have now (laptop, TV, etc) it will have an impact on how we learn, live and interact. Stretch your imagination and think of all the possibilities. For me, the Vision Pro is my doorway to the future and with it,
It is worth having it now and being part of that growth
You can wait as long as you like. If you have a need for functionality now then make a choice.
If you dont need it (will you ever?) but its like the iMac deniers who refused the 24" 3 years ago convinced there was a 32" coming to replace the 27....
..... they are still waiting.
And, even if Apple made a 'cheaper' version... do you think it will get anywhere close to the MQ3 price? not in a million years.
I don’t need it right now no. So I’ll wait. I’m not buying a freaking meta headset for the sake of it lmao
This feels like a copy pasta meme. It should be anyway.
We’ve got them at work so price isn’t an obstacle. Initially there was a lot of excitement around the application in production environments, especially for training and maintenance to make bespoke apps uniquely suited for the strengths of the device. The developer story is a slight nightmare and it’s not living up to the expectations. Maybe if it’s still a viable product in 5 years this is a solid use-case. We’ve hardly touched them since because they are for work so it’s not like media consumption is an option. It’s gimmicky and unreliable in terms of the controls. Perhaps that can be better solved if ML allows them to drop some of the cameras and learn better what the eyes are looking at while interpreting hand gestures. It’s not going to set the world ablaze like the iPhone and it doesn’t have to. What it does have to do is garner dev support by having an environment that fosters experimental and enterprise apps. That’s not here yet. It’s not winning over the other devs who don’t just HAVE TO have some of their apps on it day one. Apples appalling dev story the past 10 years doesn’t help. Some (not all) people here are buying a device based on future possibilities and not what it currently allows. That’s a dangerous game. It’s a faddish experience and the novelty evaporates quickly when you have XDRs and Eizo displays which are rather more engaging and productive in their usage. It’s a shame too because it’s so compromised. It felt like internally they knew the car was a flop and soon to be cancelled so this couldn’t meet the same fate and was released too early so they had something to show for their efforts. Too inaccurate with gestures, pass through and the Mac mirroring is an admission it’s not ready to be a standalone device. The eye thing on the front is a huge mistake
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Thanks for the imformation. I was not aware of that side of it.
We will just have to wait and see if Apple opens it up more with VisionOS 2 and later. I am hoping that it gains some interest worldwide (esp. China and India) that it would be worthwhile ($) for Apple to jump all in on it.
Not supporting a dog **** and evil corporation monetarily?
There are a ton of other uses - education, travel, meditation, sports (PGA golf possibly the best at this point), productivity (using while flying), etc.
Yes, it's in the definition:
- too expensive; costing more than it is worth.
"overpriced hotels"
Many posts about how the price is appropriate, given the cost of materials (~$1600) not including the billions spent in the almost 10 year development process. That's not to say that they say it is cheap.
Released 1997
No one commercially supported it in 1992 because patents =/= product.
Apple had their native Airport cards two years later in 1999 with the iBook, not the TiBook. MacOS supported 3rd Party cards (Airport cards were Lucent cards after all) before they released their Airport cards.
All of this is a far cry from your claim of apple taking ten years to do WiFi after its introduction.
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Ah, so THATS where all the unsold American units are going.
I clearly said that it is subjective. So quoting definitions doesn’t change what I said.
I personally don’t think it is overpriced. I think for my current goals $4k is too much for me to spend however I plan to buy another one around iPhone release
I do plan to get one around iPhone release time when my finances sort of reset themselves lol.
I spent like $6k going to Coachella, I’m spending another $2k for lollapoloza, my birthday is In august and that is another $5k for my trip to Italy and another $3k or so for Disney world for Christmas.
September is usually when my finances reset themselves and the new iPhone and my avp will literally be my last purchase of the year
But what’s overpriced to me is not overpriced to you. So you can’t call a product overpriced and speak that as a fact for everyone.
Avp isnt overpriced to me at all at it current price. And for the ppl who do own one.
If you can’t afford it then just say that instead of trying to bash the product. thats ok.
I wasn't speaking it as fact for you. I was speaking it as fact as expressed by the overwhelming majority of people. I'm well aware that you think it isn't overpriced. But I'm also aware that you're in the minority.
Thx
Dis?
No idea what you mean 😢
For all naysayers and doubtful nonbuyers in denial about the future of the AVP
In case you’ve never watched the WWDC engineering and tutorial videos please have a potential lengthy view on the enormous amount covering spatial technologies and APIs covered this year.
I’ve not had the chance to view the fast amount of content but it is clear that Apple is all in and is executing on all ends to enable more content and specifically APPs - more than a strong commitment IMHO.
My guess is that this expensive headset is a stepping stone for apple. They knew a $3000+ headset would not sell well but thinking long term they knew creating desire for a “new” device by first making a ridiculously expensive headset and using the rich to fund their experiments they would get to their desired goal of being the number one in virtual reality. I’m available for hire Macrumors if ya need more mark Gurman stuff for your website.
You’re probably right. They designed it without compromises
Do you guys read what you write? Of course a $ 4 k - 3 k - 2 k would sell better in sheer numbers but it would probably not offer the same options in terms of development. The AVP is first and foremost a development platform. It is clear that many aspects won’t make it in future successors and Apple designed it in a way that developers can test out their ideas. The few normal people getting this device are driven by other motivations.
Conservative guesses are suggesting that the pre development cost Apple exceeds $ 10 .. 15 Billions - Apple is going to sell probably 400 .. 500 k maximum globally - you can do the math how much the development per item would be?
Just a hint - it would be >6x the price only to cover the development spendings - this device is the bargain of the century
With your deep knowledge probably a good reason for me to start with my digital detox with your hire 🤣
I mean, what's the alternative? Is Meta's headset even making any money for the company? I simply don't understand this whole obsession with profitless market share like it's somehow the only thing that matters in the market.
Apple is pursuing a different approach - they simply do the best thinkable solution and add a price to it.
Make it as good as you can and figure out later how to strip it down in weight, size and get a fully working optimized solution with a strong eco system once the price suits the mass market needs - whatever this price level might be?
For some here in the forum even the lowest thinkable price would be a reason for believing in a conspiracy 🤣
I am a perfectionist and I love things that are designed to the highest thinkable standards - that’s my obsession and reason why I work hard every day - like the Apple design team of the AVP - just have a look at this video from 39‘ onwards
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