A horse is not a “fine way to get around” at all. Riding another animal is inefficient, requires massive overhead and is slow. Cars offered an obvious benefit in a way that this face computer doesn’t.
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A horse is not a “fine way to get around” at all. Riding another animal is inefficient, requires massive overhead and is slow. Cars offered an obvious benefit in a way that this face computer doesn’t.
They would do a standard cost/benefit analysis. In the same way that some high schools provide iPads or chromebooks for students, a university could one day offer the use of VPs for certain courses.
LOL good one with the ton comment 😆A ton is 2,000 lbs so therefore a ton of people would be on average around 10 people.All kidding aside, my statement also came with the caveat that people would have to know how great the viewing experience of the AVP is before the Super Bowl, which obviously isn't going to be the case.
I truly believe it's only a matter of time before enough people get to see the immersive quality of the 3D and the "like being there" feeling that broadcasters will make live sports, concerts, and other events available for the AVP. When that happens we might see living rooms full of people each with their own headset watching the game together and with the pass through capability not be so disconnected from their families and friends.
At $4000 it's just not going to be for the majority of the viewing audience. I don't see broadcasters bothering with the expense of equipment and workers to film the spatial video for such a small number of viewers.
I don't see this product being a yearly or 2year release either.
The early adaptors are going to have to pave the way and really push this to a lower price point.
If Apple would open it up so that it could hook to a PC for MS Flight Sim or DCS and also release some type of controller it would be more tempting at the current asking price otherwise get rid of that glass front and knock that price down to the $2000-2500 range
But there were detractors of cars saying the same stuff you're saying. The benefits of cars are obvious in hindsight.
I’m sure athletic departments will be happy to spend money on such an indulgence but I doubt the academic side is liable to show a lot of interest in this. VR has been around for many years and there’s no significant uptake in academia.
Yeah maybe. My guess is enterprise/industrial applications will stimulate demand outside of just consumer/creator focused demand. Then from there, educational use-cases will emerge as the price drops over the next 2-3 years.
If you're asking me to predict where? Not sure, but if I had to guess I could see engineering courses, perhaps astronomy, perhaps anatomy, etc.
No, not in hindsight. And the fact that some demured proves nothing. There always going to be a contingent that does. Just look at vaccine uptake during the pandemic.
The comparison to cars just isn’t realistic or valid. The choice between having to care for a LARGE animal that has limitations on what it can carry/haul and a machine that doesn’t eat, can go faster, doesn’t get sick and can carry larger loads is a no brainer.
The problem with horses was obvious. What is the obvious problem that Vision addresses?
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Not with Vision. The industrial and commercial side already have dedicated hardware. Vision is a consumer device. That’s why Tim Cook was on Good Morning America today trying to convince suburban housewives that they need it.
The first practical gas-powered car could NOT go faster than horses, nor carry more weight, when they were introduced by Benz in 1886. It was not obvious they would supplant horses in the late 1880's. Not at all. But after several revisions, and especially after the Model T, people could see the benefits.
To answer your question, IMO, mobile productivity. VP is probably nice enough when used around your home, but productivity on the go sounds like it could be the bread and butter use case.
As if Apple just invented VR? Nope. We’re already way past the nascent period.
And as far as Vision being mobile, Apple doesn’t highlight that except for in the likely worst use case: on an airplane where getting it out and using it will absolutely disrupt people around you. It isn’t a mobile device. It’s intended to live in your house.
Well sure. I'd expect that because that is their current sales strategy. It doesn't really take away from my contention that VP will be important for education; nor does the fact that there exists headsets in industry/enterprise mean that it will have not be important in industrial use cases.
That’s a really poor sales strategy since this appears to have zero appeal to the typical suburban housewife.
Just came back from testing out the Vision Pro and I felt really sick and dizzy when I got home. Last time I felt like this was when Virtual boy came out. Mind you I ate very well today and are very healthy. I almost fainted on the way back to the parking lot. I have had eye strain from using it since like 3pm today.
Around 7pm I got a loose stool as well.
Around 7pm I got a loose stool as well.
Yeah VR and Mixed Reality have been around for a while.
I'll admit the AVP is cool and would probably be fun to mess around with.
I can afford one but after a couple of weeks when the newness wears off I'd be asking myself what was I thinking wasting that much money
In your opinion. We need more time to elapse to properly put these early headsets into the correct historical context.
Recall that before ICE, the early vehicles were powered by many different kinds of engines (including some electric ones). We have no way of knowing how long or how broad (in terms of tech) the analogous phase in VR development will be or what it will involve. It's not about who invented VR.
We see a nice orderly picture of vehicle development stretching from the 1600's to the mid-20th century (over 300 years), and this allows us to point to Benz and say "See! Benz was on to something with ICE engines!". But at the time it was not a certainty that his form factor would be the eventual "winner". IMO, we're in that phase now. We don't know what the successful form factor will be - many people think it's the glasses form factor. I think it's premature to say we're "way past the nascent period".
I thought it might be good to go back to an older article about the ipad. An excellent read all around.
medium.learningbyshipping.com
Especially this paragraph here.
And written by the former head of Windows no less.
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medium.learningbyshipping.com
Especially this paragraph here.
And written by the former head of Windows no less.
The "fix" for this in the near term is to utilize the phone in your pocket for the compute and battery power needed. And either a much smaller receiver chip or an R1 type of chip on a pair of glasses. Wireless of course. There will still be cameras on the glasses and it will be larger than normal (batteries on the glasses). The battery tech needs to get better. One of the downsides is that it would let in too much light. But, for augmented reality stuff. It could be made to work. We have opaque OLED displays now so. I don't think it's too far off. Maybe 10-15 years.I’m not wrong.
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I don't see how using the Vision Pro in a plane is any more disruptive than say, having a pair of noise cancelling headphones on and working on a laptop that you likely have to keep if the person sitting next to you wants to go to the restroom. If anything, this looks like a boon in cramped environments where I don't particularly have a lot of room to manoeuvre because I now have a computer that doesn't need to rest on a flat surface to be used.
It’s a bad comparison. And the Vision system will never fit in standard glasses frames.
That isn’t Vision. As I said, attempting to put this into glasses frames is futile. This will never fit into glasses frames.