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Apple Vision Pro Reviews and Unboxing Videos Shared Ahead of Launch

vipergts2207 said:
Pretty telling that you conveniently chose to not respond to the question of whether iPads and MacBooks are different product categories.

I have no doubt that the technology behind the AVP is superior to the Quest. That was never in question and the tech very much should be for 7 times the price. The question is when it comes to watching a big screen movie by yourself, can you get a relatively similar experience between a 100" OLED, the AVP, and a Meta Quest and the answer is undoubtedly yes, with the Meta Quest being the most economical way to do that by a wide margin. Where the AVP's higher pixel density would really be appreciated is when rendering the world in front of you, rather than playing a video.

While you proclaim that you can get something like a 100" OLED experience for cheaper with an AVP, you can get a similar experience for much cheaper still with a Meta Quest.
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You can get an inferior experience using the Meta Quest Pro or Meta Quest 3. That's why it's cheaper. Less than half the number of pixels per eye isn't "similar". Snapdragon versus M2/R1 isn't "similar".
 
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Johnny907 said:
Only review worth a darn of the bunch is Nilay from The Verge. It's honest without being cynical and it weighs what Apple is trying to do vs what Apple has actually accomplished. The narrow field of view is pretty damning in my book. Who wants to experience a brave new world through the viewpoint of binoculars? The point of this thing is to be immersive, and that limitation directly hinders that.
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Strangely, he seems to be about the only reviewer that had a problem with the field of view ...

People here very often mistake „critical“ for „honest“ or even „true“. But of course one‘s own pre-bias tends to influence which of the reviews we consider to be „worth a darn“. So I choose to think Brian Tong‘s review was the most interesting and detailed by far. Also, Gruber‘s is up:

Daring Fireball VP review

As he is an honest reviewer, he of course mentions all the first-gen hardware limitations (heavy, external battery etc.) but is sussed enough to not let them stand in the way of evaluating the fundamentals of the new paradigm/platform that have been laid. Conclusion:

Spatial computing in VisionOS is the real deal. It’s a legit productivity computing platform right now, and it’s only going to get better. It sounds like hype, but I truly believe this is a landmark breakthrough like the 1984 Macintosh and the 2007 iPhone.

But if you were to try just one thing using Vision Pro — just one thing — it has to be watching a movie in the TV app, in theater mode. Try that, and no matter how skeptical you were beforehand about the Vision Pro’s price tag, your hand will start inching toward your wallet.
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I can see a future model that doesn't include all the glass and the front OLED screen to help reduce the weight and battery usage. Maybe a Vision Pro lite. :rolleyes:
 
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Kylo83 said:
Who cares let’s be honest the Vision Pro is locked down doesn’t even have YouTube app and you can’t do proper vr games so what’s it good for well content viewing cool and external monitor wow, is that it for £3500 it has no special features, the pass through from reviews are not impressed, let’s be honest the £480 quest 3 can do so much more and can actually do vr games and watch content in huge cinema with big screen vr; what is the Vision Pro it’s another useless product that’s limited
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Have you thought about using a period once in a while?
 
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the future said:
Strangely, he seems to be about the only reviewer that had a problem with the field of view ...

People here very often mistake „critical“ for „honest“ or even „true“. But of course one‘s own pre-bias tends to influence which of the reviews we consider to be „worth a darn“. So I choose to think Brian Tong‘s review was the most interesting and detailed by far. Also, Gruber‘s is up:

Daring Fireball VP review

As he is an honest reviewer, he of course mentions all the first-gen hardware limitations (heavy, external battery etc.) but is sussed enough to not let them stand in the way of evaluating the fundamentals of the new paradigm/platform that have been laid. Conclusion:
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"But if you were to try just one thing using Vision Pro — just one thing — it has to be watching a movie in the TV app, in theater mode. Try that, and no matter how skeptical you were beforehand about the Vision Pro’s price tag, your hand will start inching toward your wallet."

Oooh, someone else gets it.
 
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topmounter said:
Much ado about not much at this point. It will be interesting to see what people actually do with it and whether they keep doing it after they showed their friend(s). Regardless, real reviews will come out in time.
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If it’s like most other VR HMDs…it gets relegated to sitting on a shelf for all but diehards and Sim racing/flying users

This is one expensive paperweight though
 
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The coverage the Vision Pro is getting is pretty impressive. It will certainly get the headset in front of a lot of eyes that wouldn’t otherwise see it, like Joanna Stern with it on getting on CNBC.

I thought the reviews were a mix of early throw-away pieces and some slightly deeper ones like Joanna Stern’s. Cooking with the headset on, not bad.

Having seen the reviews which give a bit of a preview of extended use of the headset, I think I just dislike the whole notion of virtual elements in my visual field. The idea of walking around the home with a headset on and seeing stuff feels really wrong to me.
 
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topmounter said:
Much ado about not much at this point. It will be interesting to see what people actually do with it and whether they keep doing it after they show their friend(s). Regardless, real reviews will come out in time.
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Read the Daring Fireball review that was already posted in this thread. That's a real review.
 
There’s a reason we haven’t seen one Apple executive actually wearing this product. It’s because they know you look like a complete dork wearing it.

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gnipgnop said:
You can get an inferior experience using the Meta Quest Pro or Meta Quest 3. That's why it's cheaper. Less than half the number of pixels per eye isn't "similar". Snapdragon versus M2/R1 isn't "similar".
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You get to the point of quibbling over small differences regarding whether it's similar or not. You don't get to simply ignore the differences between a 100" OLED and an AVP while simultaneously nit-picking about the Quest's processor that will play back a movie perfectly fine. Your argument is becoming increasingly disingenuous. The AVP will be more similar to the Quest experience than an AVP will be to a 100" OLED. For starters, the 100" OLED doesn't require you to sit there with something strapped to your face for 2-3 hours, like both the AVP and Quest. And if you wanted to do anything else with another person, well neither the AVP nor the Quest are up to the task.
 
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User 6502 said:
Still a ridiculous comparison. A large screen doesn’t weigh on your neck or isolate you from the rest of the world, and there are screens above 4k resolution and larger than 100’’, including projectors that can project as large as your wall.
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I'm not sure why you, and others, think the AVP is isolating. It doesn't mean you can't hear what someone next to you is saying. Wearing a motorcycle helmet, with the attendant vision limitation and noise, does not mean one is unaware of your surroundings. I think that's a bogus complaint.

As far as big screen resolution, even movie theaters are either 2K or 4K. Most home projectors max out at 4K.
 
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mike2q said:
I'll answer why it matters. It matters because Apple says AR is the future and VR is not. The idea that the ideal use case for the Vision Pro is the opposite of what Apple designed for is absurd.
Also, a mechanic would never wear a $3500 headset while working.
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VR is not? Who at Apple said that? Please link to a quote where an Apple exec made that assertion.
 
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Kylo83 said:
Who cares let’s be honest the Vision Pro is locked down doesn’t even have YouTube app and you can’t do proper vr games so what’s it good for well content viewing cool and external monitor wow, is that it for £3500 it has no special features, the pass through from reviews are not impressed, let’s be honest the £480 quest 3 can do so much more and can actually do vr games and watch content in huge cinema with big screen vr; what is the Vision Pro it’s another useless product that’s limited
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Well, regarding that YouTube app...

Christian Selig (@christianselig@mastodon.social)

I am so proud of this visionOS YouTube app. Submitting today
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