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Apple Vision Pro Reviews and Unboxing Videos Shared Ahead of Launch

Although it's probably not a huge difference, I think there's some 3D depth to the personas that doesn't translate to 2D video.

Most of what I read here is, as expected, expectations that it's going to blow us away just from looking at the footage captured/rendered for these reviews.

It's a VR/AR headset, I'm pretty sure none of what makes it into a (flat) video, that you're viewing on your regular, 2D display, is anything close to experiencing VisionOS on a Vision Pro.
 
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gnipgnop said:
LOL...the "context" is that it could replace someone's TV. Or it could be complimentary to someone's TV. Or it could replace someone's computer. Or it could be complimentary to their computer.
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Of course it could. My phone could replace my computer. But it's not going to. Some things my MBP excels at that my iPhone does not and vice-versa, though I could shoehorn one device into the other's ideal use cases. How would you like to do serious word processing or spreadsheet work on your iPhone? No effing thank you. No different with the AVP. It will be good at some things and not so much at others. This isn't going to replace anything for most people either, especially considering the $3500 price tag. Someone with the money to blow on this luxury item isn't someone scrimping by that will have to choose one thing or the other, lest they be unable to make rent next month. Folks will continue using their laptops, their smartphones, and yes even their TVs. The most likely device to get replaced is a tablet, especially if their tablet is mostly only used for email, web browsing, and consuming content. The potential for this is further made plausible by the fact that it can run iPad apps, if the dev so wishes.
 
JoeG4 said:
I mean, we can trust Apple to make a cable where the jacket doesn't shrink off and break the wiring right? Right?
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I find iJustine entertaining in a weird way.

I would 100% totally expect her to say: “I mean it’s one banana, Michael, what could it cost, 10 dollars?”

It's a level of posh disconnected from reality I've seen come out of Apple's marketing department before lol. There was once, years ago during a Christmas promo, where they advertised the iPod as a good stocking stuffer.

Yea, that was like, 2004.. $500 stocking stuffer. LMAO.

Yea bro. The real christmas present was that brand new Lexus SUV in the driveway with the giant red bow on it. XD
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I don't mind her. I just tried to watch her vision pro video. Didn't she test it a few times already? why is she acting like it was her very first time?

Again im not a hater but that was hard to watch.
 
contacos said:
What I found funny is that he had Marques on his persona video call and they were both giggling how bad it looks and then Marques did the same on a video call with iJustine and Brain. Both of them were like omg this looks INCREDIBLE I give it a 9 out of 10 and I am looking at iJustines Persona like … are they seeing what I am seeing cuz? lol Marques just stayed quiet throughout all of it
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yah that's why you have to take ijustine and the brain? with a grain of salt. They're never going to speak bad of apple.

The verge? they're one of the most legit tech sites out there.

BTW brain looked better than marques and justine on that call.
 
Timo_Existencia said:
I'm not understanding your point. If he's right, he's right. All I'm saying is that nobody else has made this observation. Which I find curious.
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Nilay wears glasses. I don't think any of the other reviewers do.

It will be down to the reduced field of view you get, because the inserts mean your eyes are further away from the main lenses.

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Oops. My bad. He reviewed it wearing his contact lenses, so it won't be that. Apologies.
 
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vipergts2207 said:
How would you like to do serious word processing or spreadsheet work on your iPhone? No effing thank you. No different with the AVP.
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I guess you missed the part where AVP does screen mirroring for a laptop? Huge display + you can put other things like email into separate screens.
 
Jensend said:
Please explain why. Because to me, it makes no more sense than saying people shouldn't wear glasses because it puts a chunk of glass (or polycarbonate) less than an inch away from their eyes.
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VR can cause eye strain, dizziness and nausea, and studies suggest it can cause issues with depth perception.

I’ve also witnessed people throwing themselves into walls while wearing VR headsets, and that really can’t be good for you!
 
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I just don't see this ever catching on beyond a very niche market unless the components shrink enough to make insane improvements in the style department and the price. It's definitely cool but doesn't seem to have much utility beyond being a very nice 3DTV and macbook strapped to your face.

I think the best use cases for VR tech are for gaming, but Apple doesn't really seem interested in that, so oh well. As a computer/work machine this seems a lot more cumbersome to use than just getting a macbook, and the eye strain from having screens on your eyes will probably be pretty bad.
 
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Antoniosmalakia said:
VR can cause eye strain, dizziness and nausea,
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So can other displays, or even projected images at movie theaters.
Antoniosmalakia said:
and studies suggest it can cause issues with depth perception.

I’ve also witnessed people throwing themselves into walls while wearing VR headsets, and that really can’t be good for you!
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Ok, but what does that have to do with the distance between the screen and your eye?
 
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gnipgnop said:
I guess you missed the part where AVP does screen mirroring for a laptop? Huge display + you can put other things like email into separate screens.
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You misunderstood what I was saying. The AVP will be good at some things and other devices will be better at different things. The same way an iPhone makes for a great music device while working out, but a terrible device for writing a dissertation on, even though it can technically be used for the latter. The AVP will be great at watching a movie alone or talking on the phone while packing a suitcase (I guess??), but will not be very good at entertaining guests that are over for a football game or operating in specialized workflows like working with a 3D printer. I was not saying that an AVP would be bad at the tasks of word processing or spreadsheets.
 
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Jensend said:
You're just repeating yourself instead of answering my question. I don't disagree with your above statement, but you could just as easily say that photos and videos are stupid and pointless because they don't capture the full range of what eyes can see while looking at a real scene.

Yeah, I've said in this forum that that would be the case.

I think the "refreshing to take off" is more about the weight of the device and the pressure on your face than it is about visual comfort. People say all kinds of displays are tiring for their eyes. In the reviews I watched/read about the Vision Pro, I didn't really see much about visual discomfort. I already use VR headsets with much lower quality displays and optics and I don't experience visual discomfort.


You're literally responding to a part of my post where I give examples where it does matter. If you were doing fine detail work with your hands, and wanted to have floating screens with instructions or references, the quality of the passthrough could very well be a problem. You are the one that lacks nuance by categorically dismissimg the value of video passthrough for any use cases.

Tim Cook has talked about AR a few times, but virtually none of the marketing for the device emphasizes AR use cases.
And I just said that it wouldn't be a good device for a mechanic.
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Thanks for doing exactly what I said you’d do. Let me know when you’re ready to have a forthright discussion, because what you wrote? That isn’t it.
 
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Forking out $3500 for a device that will be outdated every few years by the newer ones and trading them in will be like getting $20 on a $400 textbook you bought and they change one word in the next edition to drop the resale value by 95%
 
ThisIsMike said:
lol I hear what you’re saying, but I also think it’s not a stretch to say that maybe a lot of people find it annoying BECAUSE IT IS. I am in agreement with a lot of people who think she shouldn’t be included in these review roundups. Her “reviews” ceased to be meaningful a LONG time ago.

So yes, it’s possible that some folks find her annoying because she’s a female, they’re jealous, whatever, but I think a lot of people are just tired of the immature pandering BS masquerading as a review. It’s pretty tiresome. I’m kind of surprised she hasn’t tired of it herself after all this time.
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So there's a lot to unpack here.

First, if you find something annoying, don't watch/pay attention to that thing. Problem solved. Next we can try to figure out why you and everyone else is SO offended that she's included in these review roundups, knowing that there are PLENTY of casual viewers out there who appreciate her content. Great, it's not for you, move on.

Second, why would she be tired of her own career? She's her own boss. Gets to do the things she enjoys doing, is successful at it, etc. Do any of you have any idea what happiness actually is, or do you think everyone needs to only love the same things you do?

At this point, I can't be convinced otherwise. People are jealous of her success and they hate her for it. They think she shouldn't be popular and successful because she isn't what they want a reviewer to be. I never see any of the male reviewers called out in the same fashion. We all know why.
 
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Only 4 pages of responses not too long ago and ballooned to 20+ already. I’m surprised to see so many posts about folks upset that influencers are claiming the AVP isn’t what it was all hyped up to be. And then they’re even more upset about other people posting on here that it isn’t what it’s hyped up to be.
-shrugs-
 
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Antoniosmalakia said:
Frequent blinking reduces as you focus on a VR screen several millimetres from the eye.

In turn, you’re not doing your long term eye health any favours.
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When I play a music game like Guitar Hero on a traditional display, or Beat Saber in VR, I do notice that I don’t blink as much because I am so intensely focused on the notes coming towards me. But again, that has nothing to do with how close the screens are to my eyes.
People usually use VR for videogames, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t blink as often as average. But again, that has nothing to do with displays “several millimetres from the eye.” Do you have evidence that occasionally blinking less frequently leads to long term issues?
 
hans1972 said:
This tells me you didn't watch all the video reviews.

The Verge and WSJ versions were very balanced. The MKHBD was basically just an unboxing video.
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None of these were reviews I would take seriously. The real ones still yet to come.

WSJ showed her cooking and skiing. She could barely see in it to cook and for skiing the goggles may have helped but probably only in the obvious way. Rv

Verge dude is worried about his hair or cameras pointed at his hands. Or being isolated.

But nothing about getting stuff done. Because 2d/3d movies will get old quick along with apples 3 videos made for vision. Scott stein may have written his review on one. But the bigger question is would he want to do that again?

You saw the Mac screen and windows. The kb and mouse and ways to copy n paste. Looks possibly great.

But later we see things like “I can’t wear this more than 30 min”. WSJ chick was like I forced myself to wear this thing. Brian tong who was blown away and it came off like an infomercial said seriously, he can’t wear more than 30-45 mins max. He only did it as long as he did to pump out the review.

This is not glowing stuff. Might’ve been Tong who said he was getting redness or tenderness to face. Each reviewer mentioned a limit. And I’m someone who’ll spend hours at a pc working. Having to take this off every 30 mins? That’s not happening.

You get this for the wow. Fun. New way to do things you couldn’t. But there’s a cost/benefit. It has constantly have content to knock you off your socks or you’re making use of those floating windows all the time. Without YouTube vr or similar there’s no content. The spatial videos recorded on iPhone? Not quite the stuff you want to see at 1080p even if people could share it.

I get the traveling or hotel benefits. But I hardly do that. This isn’t a set of Bose headphones that sits around waiting to go in my travel bag and unused the rest of time. Not for 4-5k. And even then I’m relaxing in hotel not wanting to give myself a headset headache.

Ok well maybe that’s wrong thinking. It’s the ultimate iPad. Review in the sense of that. Consumption only. Well ok. You need a kb and or mouse much of time. No reading apps or comics apps noted. No mention if drawing is even possible. Those same 100-150 3d movies get old quick. No YouTube vr. I don’t use an iPad to watch videos or tv much at all.

I’m leaning towards trying it and taking back. I’m more aware of the costs. It’s the benefits though. It’ll need much more content. Good content. Sports content where I’m at the game. Maybe version two drops this silly eyesight mess and there’s much more it can do with better ways to see good content.
 
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subjonas said:
FYI, short posts are against forum rules and are sometimes removed. You might want to expound on why, also because it might help readers to understand you.
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"Don’t worry what people will say. If your first version is so impressive that trolls don’t make fun of it, you waited too long to launch."

Does that make sense to you? Or is it actually nonsense?

I know what all of the words mean, but I have absolutely no idea what the constructed sentences are trying to imply.

I’m either really thick, or the person writing that isn’t as clever as they think they are.
 
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