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Apple Vision Pro Supports Virtual Typing, Navigation Through Hand Gestures and Eye Movements
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- It isn't a "laptop" in the sense that you can replace your MacBook. It doesn't run Mac apps. It has extremely limited battery life.
- It isn't "ultraportable". Its volume is quite large compared to a MacBook Air. Also you still to carry a keyboard and/or trackpad to be able to use it efficiently. On top of this, if you want to run Mac apps you also need to carry a Macbook with you.
- A Mac also has "infinite" screens.
What I don't get with virtual keyboards and it's the same on the Quest and others...
Why do they all have a number switch. Why are they always crampt, small and not full keyboards? They could have a number pad on the right and even loads of virtual keys on the left or wherever.
They could adapt to any app you are using too. You could have all the buttons for Photoshop for example appear above them or the keys could change like OLED key devices.
Why do they all have a number switch. Why are they always crampt, small and not full keyboards? They could have a number pad on the right and even loads of virtual keys on the left or wherever.
They could adapt to any app you are using too. You could have all the buttons for Photoshop for example appear above them or the keys could change like OLED key devices.
You know there is no reason now that a Mac app can't be run on an iPad right? It's the same chip. It's up to developers to change the input schema. You don't need a trackpad. it has eye tracking and hand tracking and gestures.
It's still very portable.
I'll give you the keyboard. but they can be pretty small and augmented with virtual buttons.
No a Mac doesn't have infinite screens... It has whatever you physically have attached at a set size and multiple spaces.
Instead of a 15" - I could have 6 42" screens surrounding me... and yes that would be useful in video / compositing / animation / Modelling and various other jobs.
Apple needs some kind of patch or bracelets you wear on your arms that triggers nerves to make it feel like your fingers are touching something when typing.
Humans can only focus on one screen a time, given that our central vision is about 30 degrees. I'll give you that Vision Pro would make switching between screens slightly easier than switching between windows on a Mac and/or multiple screens attached to a Mac. Its drawbacks (high price, not that portable if you actually want to be productive, no specifically designed apps, uncomfortable for longer use, limited battery life) however remain for the forseeable future.
iphone 1 - was laughed at by a lot of people. Took 2 Generations 3gs / iPhone 4 to become mainstream.
iPad 1 - Was a big disappointment. It's just a big iPhone - not a Mac.
Apple Watch 0 - Was underpowered and slow. Was only bought by a few people.
All went on to massive success.
The thing with this... It's actually a MacBook without a screen. I am buying one so I can do work on multiple 50" screens.
Gen 2 / 3 will be much smaller and lighter. And by gen 6 will be True AR Glasses. with Waveguide lenses or Direct eye projection ( this is already a thing not Scifi )
I've looked at all the developer information and documentation and that's the way they are pitching it over full VR, though it can do that too - they are not pushing it as their future is normal glasses - no screens - real world vision and overlaid AR and eventually will looks something like this.
Guarantee that one of the first apps will be Beat Saber that will work in VR as it does on the Quest but also AR.
iPod Gen 1 only worked on a Mac, had to be docked to copy songs on to it and had a 4 hour battery life. It also had a hard disk inside that if you went for a run it would skip and ultimately stop.
iPhone Gen 1 had a 2MB camera, couldn’t cut and paste or send media messages.
What Apple do is tried and tested when they enter or create new markets.
"Reviewers" and tech "journalists" like iJustine and Brian Tong. Legs sticking out of Apple's bum.
But that iPhone had the best display and multitouch... best browsing experience... before iPhone you had resistive touch screens... iPhone was revolutionary device
Arun Mrwhosetheboss is great, Quinn Nelson Snazzy Labs also great imho.
A lot of people commented about that. This could be abused but it could also be used as a snapshot of children playing. I have multiple children. I like being with them "in the moment" but I also occasionally like taking pictures and video of them (I actually have way less video than I'd like). Maybe I "miss" one moment with them while recording but I have thousands of other moments with them and a video recording we can look back at.
Check major news and other sites. They all have first impression reviews. There's a whole world outside YouTube channels. You're welcome to ignore any of the reviews or reviewers but don't pretend they don't exist.
Here are a few:
New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/technology/personaltech/apple-vision-pro-headset-try.html
WSJ: https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-vision-pro-i-tried-the-new-mixed-reality-headset-f49a8811
CNBC: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/06/apple-vision-pro-hands-on-first-impressions-from-wwdc-2023.html
CNN: https://www.cnn.com/cnn-underscored/electronics/apple-vision-pro
Macworld: https://www.macworld.com/article/1944516/apple-vision-pro-hands-on-feaures-design-fit.html
The Verge: https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/6/23751414/apple-tv-vision-pro-headset
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You not comparing it in a reasonable way. Comparing this to a MBAir at 15" or 13" is like comparing any Laptop to an iPhone (as a computer). Why bother with any other computer when the super portable iPhone can do it all?
Flip the comparison to look at it from the other perspective. What is this Vpro Laptop?
It has an unlimited* size screen. So be sure to compare it to a MB with an unlimited screen. How would you do that? You would need a TON of physical screens in that bag (and motivate Apple to make a MB actually work with all of them) OR perhaps carry a few Arena-sized screens around with you to fill up lots of your vision with pixels.
In that comparison, it is ultraportable as carrying lots of regular screens or a few IMAX screens would certainly be the opposite of portable.
Personal example: I work mostly on a 40" ultra-wide. I LOVE the much greater screen RE vs. my old iMac 27" However, that would be highly impractical to try to carry around everywhere so I could use that extra screen RE anywhere I go. Vpro appears to offer the potential to bring that ultra-wide with me anywhere... or give me TWO of them... or perhaps 10 of them, all in a relatively light-weight package of Vpro.
If one wants to run Mac apps on it, it appears they have to do some variation of Airplay. So they could throw a traditional MB in the bag and do that. However, I suspect an early accessory to fulfill this want is perhaps a Commodore 64-like Mac for Vpro (Apple like 💰💰💰 and this is towards an ultimate "dongle"). This already somewhat exits because people are taking MBs with cracked screens, removing the screens and then using the bottom half as a keyboard + trackpad, fully-functional Mac...
If Apple doesn't make something along such lines and I want to "laptop" this way, I might buy or make one of those for my own use. Smaller MBair or perhaps 13" MBpro for PRO or MAX power could do that trick well.
Yes, a Mac can also have infinite screens... but in Vpro, the user can see some-to-many of them within a single range of vision instead of having to scroll left or right to see each one alone. And user can see them at ANY size instead of whatever the fixed size of their physical screen.
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LOL, but I actually think that Vision Pro would be amazing for workouts at the gym. No need to deal with your phone if you want to watch content while exercising...
Please don't even quote what I post. Clearly you don’t even have skills to rationalize with a functional brain. Try to use your brain a bit and get yourself out from your nonskillful illusion of the use cases you mentioned…you are pretty much an ignorant as a human trying to please a device instead of the other way around. I feel bad you had to take the short bus to school but that's pretty much what you ended with being an illogically thinking boy...
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Brian Tong is male iJustine. LOL
There are many credible tech YouTubers out there (Arun, Quinn), not just these Apple bootlickers, selling their behind and integrity for early-access.
You are indeed love talking goofy stuff with your limited knowledge. You barely even know the product strategy of these products. And please don't quote my post coz you are indeed like a bug wasting my time reading your goofy points... But I do love helping the goofy dudes like you to at least learn how to rationalize, in a...., I would say, a just basic way, so here is your free lecture and you don't have to pay for...
Phone, most people were using and struggling with everyday, was revolutionized by Apple with iPhone with much better user experience
Tablet, most people had one already at that time but not as great as iPad
Watch, most people had one but they are not as smart as Apple Watch.
Portable music players, most people had one but Apple made it better with iPod…
Apple is known for transforming the devices that most people use and struggle with every day into products that offer a much better user experience. For example, the phone became the iPhone, a smart device that combines communication, entertainment, and productivity. The tablet became the iPad, a powerful and versatile device that can replace a laptop for many tasks. The watch became the Apple Watch, a wearable device that can track health, fitness, and notifications. The portable music player became the iPod, a sleek and elegant device that revolutionized the music industry.
Apple's strength is making popular devices better, NOT creating new markets for devices that most people don't own or need. That's why VR sets are not a good fit for Apple's strategy. VR sets are niche products that have not reached mass adoption or appeal. They are expensive, bulky, and require additional hardware and software to work. They are not devices that most people are familiar with or want to use every day.
Got my point yet, map-it?
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Voice commands for Vision Excel will migrate to the Mac! With no need for an Apple Geordi La Forge Visor™.
Of course, it will be cacophony in an Office setting (pun intended).
”Excel, sum column C and put the average and standard deviation in the cells below that.”
”Excel, graph Power vs. Battery Life and put in a trend line.”
Spreadsheets will become even easier to use.Of course, it will be cacophony in an Office setting (pun intended).
it's certainly not...my god, use your brain, read my replies to your other posts, map-it...