It’s funny you say that- I honestly feel that a number of commentators are saying those things specifically for the hope of that happening.
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Apple Vision Pro Testers Share Impressions: 'By Far the Best Headset'
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Uh...what? Lol. The thing runs baby iPad apps, with very limited interaction ability. It's nothing compared to a MacBook Pro. It could have been, but its not.
Notice they didn't even attempt to address the idea of everyone on the FaceTime call wearing the headset...only one participant.
This example of yours just makes me sad.
So… you're out what you call "camping" and you'd rather be huddled up, lying down I guess (since you seem to be doing a lot of lying down) watching TV with a large chunk of electronic strapped to your head, worrying about battery life, instead of sitting outside watching the universe revolve, listening to the silence…
We really do have very different ideas of what solving problems mean.
Lol. Apple is a business, not a charity. If you really think they spent all this time and money on a whole new platform only to be satisfied with 100K units sold and the vague promise of selling AR glasses years from now, you clearly know nothing about business.
They're investing in the future. I can totally agree with you on that. But they most certainly want and need Vision Pro to sell well. If it only sells 100K units, it's a huge fail, not only financially but in terms of validating the technology. 100K units sold would be a very strong signal that the public has absolutely no interest in AR/VR, not that this is the future of technology.
Can you elaborate on this thought?
They defined an entirely new UX/UI, and you can use a keyboard and mouse if you want. What am I missing here?
Blah, blah, blah, it’s 🍎, it’s new, and it’s expensive, so we must all love it, right?
Wrong.
First, this isn’t really AR or VR. It’s an iPad Mini Pro stuck to your face. You look instead of tap to interact with apps, and that’s about it.
Second, this is a surprisingly “beta” product for Apple. Their strength has typically been waiting for everyone else to trip over themselves with half-baked products, then coming in with something better. It’s how the iPod emerged in the MP3 player market (MS Zune, anyone?), the iPhone in the smartphone market (Nokia N95, anyone?), the aWatch in the smart watch market (Pebble, anyone?). Instead, this feels rushed, like Tim Cook was hurrying to get this out ahead of… something. No wonder we heard rumors about dissention in the Apple product development ranks.
Third, this is a very un-Apple like product. Too obtuse (looks like a skier wearing an iPod), too creepy (projected image of your eyes? A hologram of you for FaceTime?) too power hungry, and I’m going to guess too buggy. This is IMO the 2nd time Apple released something un-Apple-like on Tim Cook’s watch; the AirPods Max is the first. APM is also too big, too heavy, and kind of ugly - I hate Bose with a passion, but their 700 headphones look way more like Apple products.
Tim Cook is either retiring or dying, and he wanted one last “Apple can‘t innovate MY ASS” product before he goes.
Wrong.
First, this isn’t really AR or VR. It’s an iPad Mini Pro stuck to your face. You look instead of tap to interact with apps, and that’s about it.
Second, this is a surprisingly “beta” product for Apple. Their strength has typically been waiting for everyone else to trip over themselves with half-baked products, then coming in with something better. It’s how the iPod emerged in the MP3 player market (MS Zune, anyone?), the iPhone in the smartphone market (Nokia N95, anyone?), the aWatch in the smart watch market (Pebble, anyone?). Instead, this feels rushed, like Tim Cook was hurrying to get this out ahead of… something. No wonder we heard rumors about dissention in the Apple product development ranks.
Third, this is a very un-Apple like product. Too obtuse (looks like a skier wearing an iPod), too creepy (projected image of your eyes? A hologram of you for FaceTime?) too power hungry, and I’m going to guess too buggy. This is IMO the 2nd time Apple released something un-Apple-like on Tim Cook’s watch; the AirPods Max is the first. APM is also too big, too heavy, and kind of ugly - I hate Bose with a passion, but their 700 headphones look way more like Apple products.
Tim Cook is either retiring or dying, and he wanted one last “Apple can‘t innovate MY ASS” product before he goes.
Seriously! Vanlife isn't really camping, though. Totally different kind of person.This example of yours just makes me sad.
So… you're out what you call "camping" and you'd rather be huddled up, lying down I guess (since you seem to be doing a lot of lying down) watching TV instead of sitting outside watching the universe revolve, listening to the silence…
We really do have very different ideas of what camping means.
Yeah except business doesn't work this way. THIS exact version of the product needs to succeed in order for the 10 future generations that we're thinking about to actually exist. It has to stand on its own and make enough money that Apple continues developing those 10 future version. This is why I'm unhappy with Apple blowing the lid off this so soon. They have a real chance at blowing it completely.
Exactly! Because gimmicky products are the most successful on the market. They definitely don't end up in the drawer gathering dust.
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The software experience is impressive. The hardware is not. This is where all of the consternation and divide is inside Apple right now. No one wanted this hardware shipped, but everyone wants this software shipped.
Normally I’d agree with you, but doesn’t “Vanlife” indicate that the poster lives out of a traveling van? I would assume if that’s true they get a lot more of the camping lifestyle than those of us who only get to squeeze in a camping trip once a year (🥲)?This example of yours just makes me sad.
So… you're out what you call "camping" and you'd rather be huddled up, lying down I guess (since you seem to be doing a lot of lying down) watching TV instead of sitting outside watching the universe revolve, listening to the silence…
We really do have very different ideas of what camping means.
If you’re nomadic, this thing makes a lot of sense on the leisure front.
I'm curious why they didn't make the battery pack 50% bigger so it could get over the 3 hour mark and at least be able to finish most films on one charge. It doesn't look particularly large at all.
Also it is interesting to see how the battery life is measured. Clearly if you're playing a game that will be more resource intensive than just watching a film. What am I doing to get 2 hours battery life exactly?
Wait for the 🍏wall-cord with MagSafe, 10’ for $100, 20’ for $500. For mobile use, the 🍎Vest - one big wearable battery - for $2000.
It *is* the computer. It has an M2 SOC in it. You don’t need a computer to use use (unlike the Meta Quest 3, for example), although it *will* work with your Mac, if you want.
You watched the keynote?
Are we just calling everything “gimmicky“ now? Gimmicky assumes this has no real world use. I remember people saying the same stupid crap about the first Apple Watch at launch. I’m gonna buy a watch for 400? Why? I can tell time on my phone just fine. Useless product. I’ve seen these same people over the years with “Apple Watch“ in their profiles. I definitely won’t see anything about an apple vision product in your profile years from now right?
always amazes me when people have such strong opinions on devices they’ve never tried and that havent even come out yet.
I'd bet Apple is targeting around 10% of the VR headset market which is projected around 30 million for 2024.
But it’s not. It’s not like a Meta Quest 3… that only works *with* a computer. (Edit: except for a very limited selection of apps that run “native” on the Android-based OS they made. Quest is a cheap Android phone, and is priced appropriately)
The Apple Vision has a full M2 SOC onboard… it *is* the computer.
I thought that was obvious from the keynote.
This is also why it’s so expensive. It’s like a MacBook Air combined with a bunch of brand-new 3D tech.
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No, not everything. Just things that do not solve any actual problem and are just a gimmick - like Apple Vision. As said in my previous messages pretty clearly. I definitely did not say "everything is gimmicky"... Are my messages encrypted or something?
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I don’t see why people are complaining about the price. It’s not priced for everyone right now. It’s a computer, not a
An accessory like Apple Watch is to an iPhone. Of course, it’s $3500, this is the beginning and there will be more models at different price points down the line. This won’t ever be a budget device. Just accept that and when it hits close to your acceptable budget tier, just save up for it or use a payment plan. I’m sure they’ll have some for this down the line. I see this as a potentially great product but not necessarily one for most of the masses to have like an iPhone or Apple Watch is now. At one time, not many people had iPhones either.
An accessory like Apple Watch is to an iPhone. Of course, it’s $3500, this is the beginning and there will be more models at different price points down the line. This won’t ever be a budget device. Just accept that and when it hits close to your acceptable budget tier, just save up for it or use a payment plan. I’m sure they’ll have some for this down the line. I see this as a potentially great product but not necessarily one for most of the masses to have like an iPhone or Apple Watch is now. At one time, not many people had iPhones either.
Of course the invited usual influencers loved it. Let's hear from some unbiased sources.
If there is no motion sickness and desktop and movies work as advertised then I'll get one.
If there is no motion sickness and desktop and movies work as advertised then I'll get one.
To repeat, it’s neither AR nor VR. It’s a wearable iPad Pro.