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Apple Vision Pro Testers Share Impressions: 'By Far the Best Headset'
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Or creative operations of any kind. Prepress on this would be a 100% no-go.
😆 This is the kind of thing people on this forum seem to be happy to write off as unimportant. They're like: "What? You can look to move the cursor and you can click! What more do you need!?"
I fully understand and recognize that many of these people may well have never used apps like before in their life, let alone to actually produce work product. But they should at least recognize that they don't understand it.
I certainly understand your point. It's just that your point is wrong. And it has nothing to do with what I said.
Again, developers aren't the only people that do real work. The Vision Pro doesn't ONLY run iPad apps. iPad apps are not limited to content consumption. And developers could even use Vision Pro as a display to work in Xcode.
For real, it's funny reading through the anger here.
Why would they need to? If you want a keyboard and mouse, you can have them...
How might a person do 3D modeling with a flat screen and mouse on the desk? Turns out people have gotten pretty good at it. In a few years, I wouldn't be surprised if we look back in wonder that it happened though.
Yes!! I hadn't about how eye control will help people with disabilities! I will make sure my charity group donates one of these to someone with disabilities.
This is certainly true. But even professional video editing is more comfortable on the Mac (I know it CAN be done on the iPad). Same goes for the (excel) sheets, emails and general multitasking. It can be done from the iPad, it is just more faster and productive from the Mac.
And now imagine all of that on the Vision Pro without keyboard (and mouse). It certainly can be done with voice to text transcription, you can certainly click with your fingers. But would it be faster and more effective than using your Mac? I bet it won't. It may be interesting for media consumption, but I doubt it would be better for general work.
Eh, eye tracking itself isn't groundbreaking - the PSVR2 does this as well to let the user select interface elements. Now, hand tracking is - but I wonder how well it'll work for people with one hand, or other accessibility issues.
Of course some things will still be better on a Mac. No one is saying current Vision Pro is a complete replacement for a Mac.
But you can use a keyboard with a Vision Pro. And, of course some of the limitations of an iPad go away with the Vision Pro (Primarly multitasking and screen size). Vision Pro can certainly be used efficiently once the apps are developed. The only real difference between a Mac and Vision Pro for productivity will potentially be a mouse versus the finger/eye combo. If Apple gets that interaction right, there's no reason that the Vision platform couldn't be as productive as the Mac for many jobs.
(And of course, Apple could certainly map mouse/trackpad onto the 2D application windows in the future.)
And then there's the AR/VR applications that become useful only with the visionOS platform.
I completely disagree about it being limited to consumption. And it certainly will be better for some types of work.
You’ll have to wait on Adobe for that, and you’ll likely get your answer at the actual launch of the product.
But why limit yourself to NOT using the best peripheral for the job? It works with a keyboard and mouse so what exactly is the problem here?
I'm sure it's an amazing thing to behold. I just don't know if I would want to wear googles all day long, or if it's even healthy for my vision. A monitor 24" away is already an issue.
How many of you actually can use an iPad for a full work flow? Unless you're a college student, I have no idea how that would be possible. This thing appears to have an iPadOS style file system, which is an insane choice for a 'pro' productivity device.
To all those who comment - "I don't need this; too expensive; NOT VR" -
Apple on Monday unveiled the Vision Pro, its long-awaited AR/VR headset. While the headset is not launching until early next year, some media outlets and YouTubers received a 30-minute guided demo of the device and shared their first impressions. The testers were not allowed to take photos or videos of the demo experience.
In a tweet, tech columnist Joanna Stern described the Vision Pro as "by far the best headset out there." In a report for The Wall Street Journal, she elaborated that "the interface and hand gestures are intuitive, 3-D movies are finally making sense and a huge dinosaur felt like it really broke through a wall right in front of me."
Stern did point out some negative aspects, including the headset feeling heavy and making her feel a bit nauseous when switching between virtual reality and augmented reality modes. And while the Vision Pro has some innovative features to reduce feelings of isolation, such as showing the wearer's eyes through the front glass, Stern said it will still be a challenge for Apple to convince customers to wear the device.
In a video, well-known tech YouTuber Marques Brownlee said the Vision Pro has some features that are "the best I have ever seen in any VR headset, by a mile," including eye tracking and hand tracking. These advanced technologies do not come cheap, of course, as the Vision Pro will be priced at a staggering $3,499. Brownlee also pointed out that the headset lacks haptic feedback since it does not have controllers.
TechCrunch's Matthew Panzarino said Apple has "delivered nothing less than a genuine leapfrog in capability and execution" with the Vision Pro.
"Every bit of this thing shows Apple-level ambition," said Panzarino. "I don't know whether it will be the 'next computing mode,' but you can see the conviction behind each of the choices made here. No corners cut. Full-tilt engineering on display."
MacRumors is in attendance at WWDC and will be publishing our own first impressions of the Vision Pro soon. In the meantime, check out our first in-person look at the headset. For more details about the Vision Pro and its visionOS operating system, check out our coverage of Apple's announcement from Monday.
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This is not just a pair of goggles - it is also a showcase of ground-breaking technology.
it is, in my opinion, is a long term game changer.
Not necessarily for only this type of product, but certainly the ideas and technology from it will appear in different future products.
And it, or it's decendents, or spin-offs, or just bits of it, may very well change forever how we interact with technology in the future.
Have you actually looked at the Hololens? it's true AR and is designed to fit into gear like hazmat suits and military uniforms. It's obviously not a comparable product.
Laugh all you want but file systems are not going to become irrelevant in my industry any time soon, and I suspect I am not the only one!
IF/WHEN one day that EyeSight screen is so good and the bezels so thin that it'll make you feel the same way as if you were talking to someone wearing glasses, it'll probably be OK. But the Apple demo video doesn't look great in that regard.
I certainly could. The primary reasons I don't (multitasking/screen size) are actually addressed by the Vision Pro.
I don't know what's insane about it. Seems like you just a limited definition of what a "full work flow" looks like. Kinda like the people that claim you can't use an iPad for "real work".
I’ve not just looked - I owned and used one for 4 months (well, extended loan from the University). It worked pretty much the same as what Apple Demo’d but obviously without the option to go VR.
It was basically pass through mode all the time with the web browsing etc. looking identical to apples demo last night.
Apples VR/AR set is more impressive by its ability to not need charged (when powered from the wall) and to go VR when needed.
Sure, but my point is that those are fundamentally different use cases. The holo lens is expensive because it's aimed primarily at heavy industry and military. The Vision Pro is primarily a consumer facing device. There's a reason Microsoft isn't trying to get Disney+ experiences on the holo lense. There's no sense in comparing apples and oranges.
ETA: The majority of HoloLens users aren't even going for something like web browsing, they're in enterprise applications.
Sure. No Disney+ experience. But Witch Soup. Who they are marketing to isn't a fundamental difference. They're hardly apples and oranges.
The HoloLens website lists their industry focus as manufacturing, healthcare, and education. There is nothing that fundamentally prevents the Vision Pro from targeting similar use cases.
The headset seems great but at the current price point many aren’t going to buy and with a low population in the ecosystem I wonder how many apps will bother to port to it
This is about the only feature I see that has any real value. However, with just 2 hr. battery life it's not very practical. Also, kind of limits your choices of movies to watch, doesn't it?