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Ya know, it's expensive as hell and no one really know what to do with it just yet.

That's what makes it so exciting. People are going to be completely AMAZED as what gets done with this thing 5 years from now when it's more than half the price it is now.

I can remember calling the iPad an "oversized smartphone that no one will do anything with" when it first came out. I said it would fail in the marketplace and no one would buy them.

Now they're literally used everywhere. The waitress at the restaurant takes my order with one, the Cinnabon at the mall uses theirs as a cash register. People in all walks of life and businesses are using them every day to be more productive and improve efficiency. Children use them to learn. It's really something that first started out as. Wait for it... The NEWTON. Became the iPhone, then the iPad and the whole world of Apple we have today.

So, I say knock this thing at the peril of looing short sighted. I think it's a game changer in the next five years for all sorts of things we haven't even thought of yet.

And the price will come down with time. It's a new product and a totally fresh take on an existing concept.

I'm totally excited as to what will be done with Apple Vision in the next 5-10 years.
first ipad $499 ≠ first vision pro $3499, are you really fu... kidding me, of course will be amazing, but with the "correct" price, i dont really care if the microled display changes to oled or even miniled ;)
 
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Ya know, it's expensive as hell and no one really know what to do with it just yet.

That's what makes it so exciting. People are going to be completely AMAZED as what gets done with this thing 5 years from now when it's more than half the price it is now.

I can remember calling the iPad an "oversized smartphone that no one will do anything with" when it first came out. I said it would fail in the marketplace and no one would buy them.

Now they're literally used everywhere. The waitress at the restaurant takes my order with one, the Cinnabon at the mall uses theirs as a cash register. People in all walks of life and businesses are using them every day to be more productive and improve efficiency. Children use them to learn. It's really something that first started out as. Wait for it... The NEWTON. Became the iPhone, then the iPad and the whole world of Apple we have today.

So, I say knock this thing at the peril of looing short sighted. I think it's a game changer in the next five years for all sorts of things we haven't even thought of yet.

And the price will come down with time. It's a new product and a totally fresh take on an existing concept.

I'm totally excited as to what will be done with Apple Vision in the next 5-10 years.

Agree with everything you have said.

I'm a fan of VR. I've bought VR headsets since the OG Oculus Rift and when the illusion works it's truly transformative. VR still is, however, a solution in search of a problem - and having VR experiences is fun, but no-one really needs a VR headset. The use case beyond the novelty factor remains questionable.

I think that like with SmartPhones, iPads, Apple Watch, etc.. the true utility will emerge over time. Personally, I think it's going to remain somewhat niche, in the way that AppleWatch is niche. Apple launched it into the world almost as a fashion accessory and iPhone extension. What happened over time is that its value add emerged in the health and fitness space, something barely touted when it came out.

I think Vision Pro will be like this. Like you, I am very interested in seeing what happens as it moves into the world.
 
Very interesting product

I wonder are there reliable studies with enough data on the topic ? Namely the dangers of putting a screen so close to your eyes
I wonder what Apple Eye Detection Warning does. At night it never gives warnings thats the time we use the iPhone most.
 
You can’t imagine a scenario where sharing something with a colleague would be useful?
Point the camera, email attachments or Airdrop. Why the f would you pay 4K and a stone in your head to do that?
 
1) The "screen" of the apple vision pro is bigger than any TV you have

2) In the article it clearly states its not for the person wearing the headset.
First the camera on the iPhone is much better to share things. Second and third: You save money and neck/eyestrain.
 
first ipad $499 ≠ first vision pro $3499, are you really fu... kidding me, of course will be amazing, but with the "correct" price ;)

I had to spend around $2k to get the original Oculus Rift back in 2016 because it needed a monster PC to run it and I was only running Mac laptops at the time. That $2,000 is about $2,500 in today's money, so not a million miles off from Vision Pro. And I really only used that PC for VR gaming.

That said, the $400 Oculus Quest 2 is a MUCH better device at a much lower cost (and no PC needed) so I'll probably pass on the $3,500 gen one Apple device unless it really blows my mind on first try. Probably...
 
I still wonder how they will promote this on the store like "from XY Dollars*


*on 48 months instalments? or something ridiculous?

36 months with the 3% rebate baked in gets Marketing to "Only $99/month"

There are abundant numbers of people who only think in payment terms. If they can afford a payment, any price is fine. If the payment is too high, the price is too high. If a seller has anything that must be priced "too high," it's on finance to spread out the terms to hit the target monthly payment range. At one time, a long-term payment plan for cars was 24 months. Then it became 36, then 48, then 60, then 72, 84, 96 and now one can find 120 month terms (TEN years).

If the masses see this as priced too high, payment plans will arrive to make monthly payments seem quite affordable. It's becoming one of those "oldest tricks in the book."
 
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Except the iPad was very well priced… way lower than people expected.

people expected 1000 it was released at 499.
I maintain this isn’t intended for average consumers. This is a developer device, a power-user device, and an early adopter device. It’s bleeding-edge tech, which means it won’t be perfect and you should use it at your own risk.

The one that come after this, the one which polishes the experience, the one that comes when developers have figured out the best uses for this, and the one which is much more affordable due to supply chain and engineering streamlining - that’s the one that’s going to be for average consumers.

Hell, even then it’s going to take a while for people to get used to the idea.

I remember using my pocket-PC back in the day and being looked at like I was an alien. Same for laptops in cafes, or smart watches. It takes time…

This first version is for the tech nerds; for those who can dream of what’s to come. Those of us who are willing to compromise in order to contribute to moving forward - as users.

This is what they call bleeding-edge tech. To me that’s always meant that it’s so close to the edge of what’s possible that [analogy: it’s sharp and you bleed] there are bugs, it’s not perfect, and the user experience needs polishing. I suppose in this case part of that is also the price - my wallet will bleed.

I’m happy to be an early adopting tech nerd.

And yes, I hope to buy one.
 
I had to spend around $2k to get the original Oculus Rift back in 2016 because it needed a monster PC to run it and I was only running Mac laptops at the time. That $2,000 is about $2,500 in today's money, so not a million miles off from Vision Pro. And I really only used that PC for VR gaming.

That said, the $400 Oculus Quest 2 is a MUCH better device at a much lower cost (and no PC needed) so I'll probably pass on the $3,500 gen one Apple device unless it really blows my mind on first try. Probably...
too much cash my friend, no matter if the experience will be huge, maybe $1999, im very sure that the price is for the microled displays, why no put oled for example or a "cheaper" model
 
The price isn't a problem for this product. It really isn't. Because you could hand these out for free and there are still huge segments of the market that wouldn't use it, even if it were free.

I have to agree with this. Is it expensive, yes. Will it sell out, yes. For everyone that finds it too expensive there are equally as many people willing to spend up, especially on technology. These will not have a problem selling.
 
Hey remember when mainframe guys mocked the mouse? They called it a frivolous toy and slower than command line interfaces. Remember that?

It’s wild how those enjoying one use case can’t get their heads around other use cases. Same as it ever was!
What is the differentiator of the Vision Pro compared to other VR headsets that have been available for years? No controllers? A display on the front that shows the wearer’s “eyes”? I am seeing more and more people defending the Vision Pro, without having ANY lengthy experience in VR. The simple fact that the advertised battery life is only 1 HOUR should be enough for anyone to not purchase the device. I wish you the best of luck with your Vision Pro, and may you get many enjoyable (plugged in and tethered) hours with it!
 
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I have to agree with this. Is it expensive, yes. Will it sell out, yes. For everyone that finds it too expensive there are equally as many people willing to spend up, especially on technology. These will not have a problem selling.
Agreed. But they will not have a problem selling because it will be the consumers whom have ZERO experience with VR that purchase them because it is an Apple device. The rate of returns will be very high after the novelty wears off and people understand how troublesome 1 hour of battery life truly is.
 
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Agreed. But they will not have a problem selling because it will be the consumers whom have ZERO experience with VR that purchase them because it is an Apple device. The rate of returns will be very high after the novelty wears off and people understand how troublesome 1 hour of battery life truly is.

I think the battery life will be a non-factor because it is not geared towards gaming. Movies and content consumption is the main use from what I have seen, so being tethered to an outlet isn't a big deal. I do agree with the novelty wearing off though.
 
I have to agree with this. Is it expensive, yes. Will it sell out, yes. For everyone that finds it too expensive there are equally as many people willing to spend up, especially on technology. These will not have a problem selling.
You missed the larger point of my comment, which is that it cannot and will not grow, simply because of how objectionable the hardware is. Yes there are enough people that will buy anything to give it an interesting initial run, but that's where this will end. Doesn't matter what it costs, or how low they can get the price. No one actually wants to wear the headset, and few will tolerate it in spite of itself.
 
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