Apple VP Behind Activity Rings Retiring After Misconduct Claims

[tyranne201]

Let’s all remember these are only allegations, eh? No need to crucify the guy in the court of public opinion.

yes, 9 allegations.

 

[tyranne201]

Were the claims verified ?

with apple defending? I doubt any employee that witnessed would speak up.

 

[Momento_Mori]

If there is any truth to the accusations, it's pretty disgusting that he is being allowed to 'retire' and the Apple board hasn't got the guts to fire him, instead he will be rewarded handsomely for his failures and mistreatment of staff (again

Would you expect anything other in America? I mean look at Hollywood, corporate America, politicians, preachers ….. Bad Behavior Should Not Be Rewarded……

 

[Eureka20]

When more than 10% of a team has to get additional mental health care because of this guy's workplace toxicity, he shouldn't be allowed to retire-- he should have gotten the boot. Im wondering when his 'retirement' will end and he will go right back to being a clown at some other company.

 

[apple contributor]

Is it just me or is something wrong with his shoulders? Cause how the heck can you create move rings if your body position is wrong?

 

[HouseLannister]

Was he asking his female subordinates to help him close his rings?

 

[PBG4 Dude]

Apple investigated itself and found no signs of any wrongdoing. Welp.

This is the company that had a VP perjure themselves on the stand during the Epic trial. I can’t imagine they’d ever investigate themselves and find they did wrong.

 

[LFO8]

Let’s all remember these are only allegations, eh? No need to crucify the guy in the court of public opinion.

Hi.. have you ever met other human beings?

 

[Dirk Pieters]

Apple investigated itself and found no signs of any wrongdoing. Welp.

Apple and Tim are teflon in situations like this. Absolutely nothing bad that happens inside is allowed to stick.

Pretty much every “manager” or “vp” in keynotes oozes weirdness.

The way this guy looks … promises nothing good.

 

[The_Gream]

We don't permit our children to engage in it in an educational or sports setting, what makes people think it's OK in the workplace?

I agree with your statement, other than this part I quoted.

I have been around for like 40 years, and though we don’t like our children bullying others, it happens all the time. Most institutions, are also hesitant to do anything about it, because the bully’s family will most likely also act out in a bad way.

Only time it gets addressed is when something majorly bad happens (how many acts of school violence have we had in the last 40 year?), or we have parents who finally learn what is happening, that confront the school about it (with a good lawyer) that schools address the issue.

Take the recent kids making AI nudes of their female classmates. The school knew for, I believe, six months about the issue. Creating unwanted nudes of others is a form of bullying. Aka, harassment.

Sorry I got side tracked, now back to your quote; parents who actually parent do NOT permit their children to behave in this manner, cause they would have raised their children to be decent human beings.

 

[19callum93]

I dunno, he has always given me bad vibes to be honest 🤔

 

[coolkid93]

Being on charge of “rings” for awhile says a lot. Just look at that guy. Never would suspect!

 

[SFjohn]

Bullying is basically harassment

And Steve Jobs never bullied anyone, seriously? 😇

 

[jonblatho]

Agreed, which is why it's so annoying that the "iconic Activity rings" are so front and center and require the standing ring for success, and the app and Health app still show me the disappointing results when I'm looking at something else, which discourages me from opening the app or using the complications etc. Years of this annoying ring makes me happy this leader is gone.

I mean, if you have trouble closing the ring, erroneously or otherwise, you've been able to customize the Stand goal for years now (even on a day-by-day schedule). Set it lower on work days.

I'm not sure I've ever experienced software being this emotionally impactful, but hopefully that helps.

 

[aaronhead14]

Was he asking his female subordinates to help him close his rings?

My guess would be male ones, actually, based on his face and stance. 🤷‍♂️

 

[b.la]

It's so horrible the way these things are handled. Corporations will always defend the person in the wrong if they have broken any laws because they are also defending the company. How much better would the world be if they actually told the truth and help people accountable for their actions instead of gaslighting and victim blaming. In most of these internal investigations, they're unable to find any evidence of wrong doing because they choose to not look at the evidence that supports it.

 

[DrJR]

“bullying” in the workplace is not a defined crime (by federal or any US state title or code that I’m aware of).

There are worker protections against that. I’m not sure about any states particular laws but if a company allows that they are wide open for lawsuits. It is a horrible thing to have going on in an organization. Demoralizing.

 

[actcyclist]

It’s a bit strange because they probably had enough to fire him based on the poor performance of Fitness+ without relying on any of the internal complaints.

 

[Elwe]

It’s a bit strange because they probably had enough to fire him based on the poor performance of Fitness+ without relying on any of the internal complaints.

Assuming they wanted to fire him—and that is a significant assumption—he may very well have a contract which determines restrictions or consequences for a no-fault termination. If it were alleged, legally fault may have to be proven, if they wanted to fire him without significant financial consequence, and that typically means discovery . . . which isn’t a path most organizations choose to go down if they can reasonably avoid it. He may have performance thresholds in his contract, but we don’t know what they are and if he met them.

Standard at-will contracts aren’t typically what senior/desired/etc leaders sign. We simply can’t make intelligent conclusions in this case. We don’t know enough.

 

[Prof.]

When we were first introduced to him in whichever year's keynote that was, I had a funny feeling about him. A creepy feeling. Glad to see my intuition served me right.

 

[Happy_John]

It's so horrible the way these things are handled. Corporations will always defend the person in the wrong if they have broken any laws because they are also defending the company. How much better would the world be if they actually told the truth and help people accountable for their actions instead of gaslighting and victim blaming. In most of these internal investigations, they're unable to find any evidence of wrong doing because they choose to not look at the evidence that supports it.

A corporation's main aim is to maintain and in raise shareholder value. They don't protect the "person in the wrong", they protect shareholder value. In many cases those two things align, but that's coincidental.

Don't expect a corporation to be anything other than what it is. It's not where you shod be looking for fairness or morality.

As Freamon said to McNulty: "The job won't save you."

 

[svish]

With so many complaints, it is better that he leaves Apple. Retiring is not right and firing would have been better.