Reminds me of an old joke:
Guy opens the refrigerator and there’s a dog laying on the top shelf:
Guy: “What the heck are you doing?”
Dog: “Well, this is a Westinghouse, isn’t it?”
Guy: “Yes...”
Dog: “Well, I’m westing.”
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Guy opens the refrigerator and there’s a dog laying on the top shelf:
Guy: “What the heck are you doing?”
Dog: “Well, this is a Westinghouse, isn’t it?”
Guy: “Yes...”
Dog: “Well, I’m westing.”
- If you ever had an old iPhone or iPad, you have a USB-A brick and a lightning to USB-A cable. You can use them to charge your iPhone 12.
- If you never had an old iPhone or old iPad, but you come from a recent mid to high-end Android phone, or you have a MacBook newer than 2015, or you have a recent Windows laptop, or you have a recent iPad, you have USB-C ports and USB-C charger. In this case, what you are missing is a USB-C to lightning cable. Hence, a USB-C to lightning cable is included.
- If you come from a low end or not so recent Android phone and you have no USB-C Mac, no iPad, no recent Windows laptops, no Nintendo switch, no spare USB-C chargers from other sources, then you are out of luck and need to spend money on a charger, but not on a cable.
I might be wrong, but given that iPhones are premium devices, it is likely that iPhone 12 buyers have already owned Apple devices or equivalent high-end products.
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Why Apple refuse to include a smartphone charger in the 2020 model?
Tim Cook: We want to shrink the product package and BOM for saving cost and prevent global warming from deteriorating.
Why Apple couldn't come up with a better idea to include smartphone charger in the 2020 model?
Tim Cook: Innovation has never been more deeply embedded in our company DNA but the vice president of hardware engineering and its team failed to develop a new proprietary charger that is 50% less bulky and 50% faster.
Tim Cook: We want to shrink the product package and BOM for saving cost and prevent global warming from deteriorating.
Why Apple couldn't come up with a better idea to include smartphone charger in the 2020 model?
Tim Cook: Innovation has never been more deeply embedded in our company DNA but the vice president of hardware engineering and its team failed to develop a new proprietary charger that is 50% less bulky and 50% faster.
I understand the complaint, but the flip side is by Apple including a charger, that would negate the positive benefit on the environment. Apple is leaving it to the consumer, if they really want to charge at 20w...they will have to buy the charger. Albeit at additional profit for Apple.
I think other manufacturers will start to follow suit as well.
We can also use any of our existing USB-A to Lightning charges (older iPhones or iPads) to charge the latest iPhones. I am personally using the least powerful small Apple charger (5W) to charge my iPhone overnight for its battery’s sake. I also think the other manufacturers will follow.
I am mostly using the 5w as well. And maybe that is why my xs max is at 99% after almost two years. With shelter-in-place I rarely need a fast-on-the-go charge. And if I do, there's always the usb-c pd port in my car.
Apple is leaving it to the consumer if they want to charge their 1000 dollar phone out of the box.
By saying "out of the box", doesn't make this any less a straw-man.
Based on my own anecdotal observations, I think most iphone 12 customers can charge their phones without the purchase of any additional hardware.
Those that purchase an iphone 12 and: have no usb ports in the entirety of their domain, have no chargers, have no lightning to usb-a cables, do not have a usb-c charger and do not have any type of wireless qi charger...will have to bite the bullet and purchase whatever is necessary to charge their phone...maximum investment being $20.
I don’t think you understand what a straw man is. Literally every other company besides Apple includes a charger in the box. Most now even include a fast charger in the box. Justifying this charger removal in any capacity is why we’re in this silly situation to begin with. This really isn’t okay, even if some people might already have a means to charge the phone, that is sidestepping the point entirely.
Samsung reportedly won’t include chargers with some phones starting next year
Apple is also rumored to exclude chargers from phone boxes.
www.theverge.com
What silly situation are we in? My own view is that opinions will vary widely on this, with I find to be a good move even if some have to purchase a charger for $20.
I don't agree with this specific statement in your post. I think we are at the point where we are because even though people have been complaining for years about greedy Apple, they kept buying iPhones/iPads/Macs etc. Year by year they have been making record revenues and profits.
The message is that it is ok to increase prices and/or reduce costs. People will buy anyway.
Either the value they provide is too good, or people are too addicted.
What do you mean what silly situation are we in? You just posted a link solidifying the stupidity of where going on. It’s the one where iPhones no longer include a charger in the box and the one where idiots follow Apple’s path because it’s Apple.Samsung reportedly won’t include chargers with some phones starting next year
Apple is also rumored to exclude chargers from phone boxes.
What silly situation are we in? My own view is that opinions will vary widely on this, with I find to be a good move even if some have to purchase a charger for $20.
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This is a contradictory post.
I apologize in advance for asking, but would you honor me with an explanation of your statement?
What silly situation is the question? After 13 years since the iphone 1 and countless android releases, I believe many people have the means to charge any standard electronic device that takes micro-usb, lightning or usb-a/c. In other words, most people can charge any standard device. Bose didn't include a charger with the QCII, only a cable. Many BT accessories don't come with a charger. Chargers are ubiquitous as well as usb-a/c ports galore from what I've seen.
So Apple (and reportedly Samsung in the future) took a leap. Whether it was motivated by pure greed as promulgated by some, is not relevant. Whether a minority of new customers are disenfranchised is also not relevant.
Looking holistically at this, it's a good, solid move.
Exactly. Personally, I don't believe Apple cares about the environment.
However, going beyond my personal opinions on Apple:
They did something that benefit themselves, of course, but that is also likely to reduce, by a tiny fraction, their huge environmental impact.
In doing so, most consumers will still have a way to charge their new iPhone without spending money.
The very few who will have to pay, will have to pay a price that is nothing compared to the price of the phone itself (2.5% of the price of a non-pro iPhone 12).
So, yes, overall, I think it was a well-executed move.
Justify is not the same as explaining. The move is made with other vendors likely to follow. Nothing has to be justified, it's done and finished. One either accepts it or not. If not, there are other vendors and phones that have a charger if that is your personal sticking point.
I'm attemping to explain my view of the rational behind this courageous or depending on your viewpoint, audacious, move.
I'll bet you a charger that Samsung will not include a charger with their next phone.
“Just accept it” is the attitude I’m talking about. The fact that you’re so fargone that you don’t see this is the issue. It’s akin to this:
He didn't say "just accept it". He said "accept it or not". It's up to you to draw a line where enough is enough. You could choose not to buy this iPhone (or any iPhone, including future ones) and it would be a legitimate choice.“Just accept it” is the attitude I’m talking about. The fact that you’re so fargone that you don’t see this is the issue. It’s akin to this:
It's irrelevant my anecdotal perspective on this and whether I am "far gone". You keep missing this is a done deal. My perspective will not change this.
People will either accept that there is no charger in the box (or not), and if it's a sticking point to them, vote with their $$$. I'm a big proponent of walking the talk, that is the only way a company will learn it's customers are not satisfied. But I do not think this grousing will amount to a hill of beans.
This is not about should Apple do this or not. It's about people's reaction to what has already been done and what fall-out, if any, may happen from this. But it helps to reaffirm this is not a whataboutism.