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Apple vs. Samsung Lawsuit to Drag Into Eighth Year With Retrial Scheduled Next May
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Yes, by all means blame the lawyers. The client bears no responsibility at all, right?
More money you have, the less the law applies. Don't get the result you like? Appeal it forever.
Did you know Intel is still fighting the case brought against them by AMD in Europe? - It started in like 2006..
Did you know Intel is still fighting the case brought against them by AMD in Europe? - It started in like 2006..
The most telling sign is to look at the phone Samsung made in 2006 (the year before the iPhone) and then look at the first iPhone... NOW look at the phone Samsung made in 2007/2008 after iPhone came out. Their new model looked nothing like their prior model and almost exactly like the iPhone. There's really no denying they basically copied the whole design.
One of many... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Touch This one came out from HTC right around the same time as the iPhone, and if you follow HTC's devices back they were converging to this over time... they didn't wake up one day and decide on this design.
No major function in the iPhone was new... and in fact was a step back in many areas, but it was a refinement. What really put the iPhone into the stratosphere was when the App Store came along and gave people pretty much unlimited apps at the click of a button for free or nearly free. Prior to that, adding apps was painful and expensive.
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How is the goalpost moving? We’re talking about Samsung copying the first gen iPhone design... which was a slab of glass with one button on the front and a grid of colorful icons. So yes, a physical keyboard would be an important factor. Also none of these, not a single one, look anything like the iPhone 1st generation.
Samsung’s entire mobile dominance pretty much began with the iPhone copies. They have build an empire with the help of the iPhone design as proved by the massive strategy guide “How to make our phone look exactly like an iPhone and act like an iPhone” The slide pack said it all
They need to reach a compromise. Apple drops the LS while Samsung lowers prices on OLED displays for Apple.
Their mobile dominance is a result of their best-in-class screen tech, flash memory and other parts apple chooses to put in their phones because no other company makes a better product.
The rows of icons folks. How the OS looked and behaved. This is where the copying happened.
It was Xerox Parc all over again...a redefinition of how we interfaced with the device (logically, not necessarily physically).
The iPhone was shocking when it came out.
That Android was able to improve on the design is a testament to Google, but at the time Mr. Eric Schmidt was on Apple's board, so I wonder (whether or not) how much he Microsofted out of Apple, Pirates-of-Silicon-Valley-style.
Sammy's version seems the most obvious case of this.
All that said, I don't care either way. I've owned nothing but Sammy mobiles for years because I wanted features they put in their mobiles that didn't copy Apple.
That's amazing, because all I hear on MR is that Samsung makes junk, their software is crap, there phones are terrible, etc.. If they built an empire of that crap by copying Apple, then what does that make Apple?
At the time that these phones were made that copied the iPhone in the original post, there are clear similarities, but they are not clones. I don't believe there had been prior court cases on similar stuff, and the court decided this was too close and found against Samsung. Other industries like TVs, these "copies" probably are acceptable. So the court ruled, and Samsung changed their designs. So what is the issue?
Now, if anything, Apple is following Samsung's design cues because Apple has let their designs get stale and out of date. I think it would be hilarious if Samsung shows up with a patent on a design with no button and minimal bezels and sues Apple. That's how stupid this whole thing is.
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Rows of icons is a unique design worthy of a patent? Then why didn't Apple sue Google who made the OS?
So you want to live in a world where a rectangle and putting icons in a row is worthy of a patent? Not setting the bar very high there for technology.
The iPhone was shocking when it came out... shockingly bad if you ask me. I eventually moved to an iPhone, but not because of anything we are talking about here, and not because of anything in the original iPhone.
I still remember when an expert was testifying at the original trial. She picked up an iPhone to make a point about the design of a particular icon only to discover she had accidentally picked up a Samsung phone. To me, that was the best proof of the similarity.
Co-opetition at its finest from Samsung's point of view. If Apple could drop Samsung as a supplier, they would not hesitate for a second. Kudos to Samsung for being at the forefront of mobile display and IC technology if nothing else.
I think the iPhone had a bigger influence on how these devices are interacted with more than the actual physical look of the device. I believe that the shape and increased screen size was where smartphones were naturally progressing as the technology became readily available to produce such devices - regardless if the iPhone was released or not. Case in point, the LG Prada which was released before the iPhone.
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Whether the design is worthy of a patent is irrelevant at this point.
It was new then and if Apple came up with it, then it is what it is. Steve Jobs said in the keynote: "...and we patented the hell out of it"...
You'd have to ask Apple why they didn't sue Google, but look up Steve Job's comment regarding Android back then.
That the iPhone was "shockingly bad" is something I won't even argue. The iPhone's interface shaped the industry.
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Wouldn't companies use their corporate IP lawyers for this type of thing? While they may be loaded with RSU's they are typically salaried, no?
Why is it that every time Apple introduces something, everyone else suddenly implements it in their next phones? Remember TouchID? Suddenly every android maker started adding fingerprint scanners. The Moto Atrix or w/e it's called was first, but nobody else was implementing fingerprint scanners then.
That's just what Samsung does.
They'll make a knock-off of something, and just keep litigation going back and forth until it doesn't matter anymore.
Their argument goes into more than just rounded corners. I agree that there were other touchscreen phones out before the iPhone , the LG Prada for instance. However the argument Apple has goes into UI and UX, the skewmorphic design, and some of the details of the device.
While I see both sides, I also see an obvious mimicking of Apple’s design language with the metal bezels, the radius of those rounded corners, the app layout, and even wallpapers. They also (IIRC) uncovered evidence within internal emails (at Samsung) essentially confirming they copied the design.
http://bgr.com/2012/08/08/apple-samsung-patent-lawsuit-internal-report-copy-iphone/.
Like many legal cases, this will set a standard for how industrial design cases are ruled in the future, so, it makes sense for both Samsung and Apple to fight it to the end.