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Apple vs. Samsung Lawsuit to Drag Into Eighth Year With Retrial Scheduled Next May
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The irony here is now its apple who's shall we say "being inspired" by Samsung and its design. But whatever, I just want my iPhone X
"...but could you continue making parts for our phones?" Business is funny thing.
Apple is rumored to be bringing Apple Pencil support to the iPhone, I think by next year. "Who needs a stylus? " my ass
In what way?
I don’t see any Edge phones on Apple’s radar. Nor does iOS have any features of Touchwiz that I am aware of.
They won't be buying Merc's but Tesla's. Merc's are so last year. Porshe's are even more passe.
And they are made in California.
However, I get the feeling that as time goes by, the chances of Apple actually getting even $1 from Samsung is getting less and less. I'd expect Samsung to appeal even a $1 verdict against them. They seem to be like dog with a juicy bone. They just won't let it go.
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Are you talking about Susan Kare, a former Apple employee, who supposedly made that confusion during a consultation before Apple lawyers?
benchmarking your product against your competitors's is fairly common industry practice -- and I'm pretty sure Apple did the same when they decided to make large(r) iPhones, Apple Pencile, or bezel-less display, or other features that Samsung helped popularize. It does not confirm they copied the design.
LG KE850 was announced and released before the first iPhone 2G. Even before then I was using Compaq iPAQ PDA that was the forefather to smartphones.
Marketing??!
Apple: We’re suing Samsung, buy our iPhones!
That’s not how marketing works, smh.
Agreed, I don’t question that, and see that in other industries too.
I work Automotive media freelance from time to time, quite often after a car is unveiled, you will see engineers from competitors looking at materials, taking measurements, and other items at auto shows.
All that said, the internal emails at Samsung, plus the clear design similarities are a little more damaging.
And all came after the 1992 iBM simon, and really old rumors had Apple putting cellular in Newtons before the return of Jobs. In the end, touchscreen phones was the direction the industry was going anyway though.
“... a new trial is required...” to continue to pad Koh’s retirement to ensure proper luxuries in her old age. There can’t be any other reason that this needs to be dragged out even further. At least not if it’s the judge doing this and not the companies, which I’d imagine they are but this is just ridiculous.
Just like Apple shoud pay VirnexT right>
Apple built an Iphone empire on stolen patents while refusing to license technology through FRAND so their lawsuit against Samsung is beyond pathetic.
It's frustrating that the damages only ever go down. I was with a lady the other day and she whipped out her Samsung. That UI was essentially identical to an iPhone.
LG KE850 was announced and released before the first iPhone 2G. Even before then I was using Compaq iPAQ PDA that was the forefather to smartphones.
Yup! My friend had one.
LG Electronics has stated the iPhone's design and concept was copied from the first LG Prada, the KE850. Woo-Young Kwak, head of LG Mobile Handset R&D Center, said at a press conference, “We consider that Apple copied the Prada phone after the design was unveiled when it was presented in the iF Design Award and won the prize in September 2006. We take that to mean Apple stole our idea.”[9] The KE850 received a 2007 iF product design award,[10] where entries had to be shipped by September 2006.
Seriously come on now. If it wasn't for the Note, there would be no Plus sized iPhone. If it wasn't for Samsung making oled screens, wireless charging, and Bezel-less designs popular, the iPhone would still have the same dated design it's had for years. Hell they're even talking about bringing the Apple Pencil to the iPhone, which would pretty much be a complete rip off of Samsung's Note and S-Pen utilization. But of course had the roles been reversed and Samsung did that to Apple, the Apple fans would be hella triggered. Not to mention Apple has blatantly ripped off Android quite a few times. This is the reason why some get irritated with Apple and the company's hypocrisy. Copy off Apple and its off with your head but when Apple does the same thing to another company, it's excuses and hypocrisy by both Apple and it's hardcore fans
That assumes that Apple designed tested and put the iPhone into production in less than a year.
Unlikely, and proven otherwise in this case against samsung. In fact, there have been many prototypes introduced in the Samsung case that predate the Prada release. Including some questionable prototypes that featured an iPod interface. Patents for that were filed in 2006 as well.
On the contrary, to anyone with a real design eye, it's obvious that they did their best to look as similar as possible, but without exactly copying anything that they would consider patentable.
(Not sure why anyone says "exactly the same". It's like saying a Ford Fusion front looks "exactly" like an Aston Martin front. Very similar grille, yes. But exactly the same? Nope. Ditto for the Galaxy vs iPhone. Really close in places, but not exact.)
That Galaxy UI review document explicitly noted at the end that Samsung should strive to NOT look like the iPhone. Plus most of its recommendations were never used, or were not iPhone specific. Most people haven't read it.
The case has already has set a precedent, in that the Supreme Court ruled once and for all that infringing a design patent does not automatically convey full profits as an award, as Judge Koh had mistakenly instructed the jurors.
On the contrary, Apple didn't use their "full" iPhone or iPad design patents, because Samsung could not have infringed them without also having items like a round Home button and exact shape.
Instead, Apple used their generic rounded rectangle and flat screen design patents. And yes, the so-called "colorful icon grid" patent, which was likely the real killer to anyone who's never seen rounded icons or a application dock.
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A true retrial should be interesting because perhaps this time Samsung's lawyers will get to introduce the prior art that Apple's lawyers made sure was not seen by the first jury... an omission that was key to convincing the jury that Apple had actually been first at any particular design element. E.g. the jury never saw the 2005 Pidion, which many people think had an effect on Apple's design:
Maybe they'll also be shown this multi-touch phone design that was announced two months before the iPhone was ever seen:
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Let's see which one will take longer, new MacMini updates or the final decision for this case?
