People don’t seem to realize that the EU regulation is such that you don’t know you are in violation until the EU tells you that you are. It was actually up to Apple to interpret the DMA the way they did and hope they got it right. Now because of backlash they will do it another way and also hope the EU is fine with it (spoiler they won’t be).
People don't seem to realize that Apple is just acting stupid. Every child with a dictionary can understand what the law says. If an Apple lawyer can't or wants to gamble, it's their loss.
As a shareholder, I am already transitioning out of this impotent company because they just can't deliver on either operational or innovation. They've had a good run but they ruined it by having an ego too big for the door, and by investing too many $$ in forum trolls.
Great!
Good luck with all the new malware and spyware developers can now load directly in to device!
Looking forward to never using this ‘feature’ - I have no interest in letting random developers load their malware and spyware directly on to my device!
You mean the malware that can reach you already since the start of the iPhone?
I didn’t know it was this easy. Just send some requests to Apple and they will do it!
Doesn't work if you're their "valued" customer.
I don't think you understand. PWA's are a very low volume concern, and they don't justify massive efforts on Apple's part, business wise. They have very slow added support over time, because they are not a priority to Apple or to users. To be compliant with DMA, Apple would have had to massive overhaul their PWA support, which is not justifiable because PWA's bring no business to Apple at all. Apple was barely justifying their tacit support up to this point.
All that has happened now is Apple has decided NOT to comply with the DMA and just leave web apps alone to continue to work as they were. They are NOT going to do a massive overhaul that would be required to support every imaginable browser engine inside PWAs. They are just going to let customers continue to have what they have, and let E.U. bring the fight to them over it, if the E.U. can even wrap its head around it enough to understand it.
If the EU commission raised this, then for sure this wasn't of low concern. This also proves that Apple is either lying or the EU is very much behind the customer (or both), because Apple already said that PWA usage is negligible (obviously it isn't or there wouldn't be enough noise to move the commission) and the commission is pushing to keep Apple supporting a framework that doesn't make corporations earn extra, so there is little chance of lobbyism.
I love how all the Europe stans on these forums go bananas when you say anything negative about the EU, but not one person has come up with a cogent defense of its flatly ridiculous "fine first, ask questions later" regulatory scheme.
Well go ahead, say something negative. But do you have data to back up your claim that you saying "anything" will result in your bananas? Anything is a lot and I don't think you or anyone else here gets to fill the meaning of that word.
They already can:
As part of the trial against Epic Games, Apple released emails that show that 128 million users, of which 18 million were in the U.S., downloaded apps containing malware known as XCodeGhost from the App Store.
www.vice.com
The App Store has a scam problem, and it’s only getting bigger.
www.theverge.com
Psst, the apologists are mouth-breathing already!
There is no need to go bananas, not on the EU side and not on the gatekeeper side. Work on this law has been going on since at least 2020. I'm certain lobbyists had numerous occasions to give their input and to ask for clarification about it. Apple acting surprised is just a PR stunt.
I wouldn't exactly call it a stunt, and judging from the financials call, shareholders weren't exactly happy with how Apple is performing on any front.
They are literally biting each hand that feeds them at the moment, like a stubborn little child.
That's the part I wish more people understood here, particularly those defending Apple
Not sure if those defenders are actually non-afiliated with Apple.
The only entities that give a damn about the things the DMA addresses are other corporations.
Got some data to back up the claim or is it just your word in charge to judge a whole institution?
You're absolutely right that corporations don't need defending, but Daniel Ek and his ilk are no better than Apple here—none of them care about anything beyond their bottom line.
Also, saying someone random is not better either adds little to the solution. That's like a murderer asking for a lesser sentence because others have murdered, too.
It's patently obvious that the only reason the EU even passed the DMA is to assuage the like 3 relevant tech companies that exist in Europe (i.e. Spotify and...actually that's pretty much it).
It is in place so that every developer in the EU can develop for free, like for any other platform, and publish apps on their own costs and terms.
It is also for freedom of choice for customers.
In the end the Apple device owner will get the short end of the stick.
Apple has no issue with that as it has proven time and time again.
