The DMA is not a good piece of legislation and it should not be normalised or justified.
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Apple Walks Back Decision to Disable Home Screen Web Apps in the EU
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The DMA is not a good piece of legislation and it should not be normalised or justified.
A properly designed OS that allows any kind of home-screen web app would already have included such an API. The lack of such an API is an intentional omission by Apple with the goal being to keep that market to themselves.
The fact that Apple are against the wall on this now is entirely a problem of their own making. Apple purpose-built their API to benefit themselves, and now instead of having the leisure of acting responsibly on their own schedule, they are going to be forced to do so on an imposed one.
"Security" concerns. The only security Apple are concerned with is how securely they can keep their audience captive.
Might surprise you to hear this, but there is more to "relevant tech" than social media and video editing apps.
Because unlike Apple, Google and Microsoft have competent developers on staff who know how to write an OS API.
Among that "tiny group of people" are a heck of a lot of medium-sized maintenance businesses whose technician management and work order management apps are all written as PWAs.
As a developer I disagree with the idea that Android has a good API. It’s quite a nightmare to work on at times and I currently have 3 different Android phones that I have to use for testing.
“Unfortunately”? ”Power to force”? “Apple’s bidding”? You DO know that slavery is abolished, right?
So that's your word sold as a fact, savvy? Other countries are taking a similar approach because they too see it as normalized and justified. The DMA is a natural reaction to industrial players holding dominion over the market, over consumers and market participants alike.
Not good in the eye of Apple's board of directors, agreed.
Bad for the industry, I disagree.
If its all lis simple why do the leagel proffesions requer years of kaw school befored being allowed to trpresentbemyon in court, if it's all that simple shurly A few mounthe of evening courses shuld be enug, eitere there is a lot of gate keeping going on, ot things are not quite as simple as you thing
let me translate what you think to what actually is:
"Europe is better at avoiding regulatory capture and at cracking down on malicious compliance than the US is" - and that seems to be taken as a personal affront by American libertarian nuts
I'd quibble that Apple has the competent devs, they're on the same path of malicious compliance that microsoft was 20/25 years ago though. This isnt a dev skill problem, it's a C Suite management problem. Good news is good regulation can force them out of it, we know this, have to hope the EU keeps up the pressure
Can they fine for a Beta build?
The EU does seem adept at collecting fines off of vague rules. I suppose it could be a great deterrent though. Like a really large traffic ticket.
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Great, now I can go back to not using them!
No but in all seriousness this is good, even if they don’t hold a candle to native apps PWAs sounds much better than nothing and I’m glad they’re safe
No but in all seriousness this is good, even if they don’t hold a candle to native apps PWAs sounds much better than nothing and I’m glad they’re safe
Don't go playing the lottery yet 🍀. You simply exercised patience
Well it was quite easy for me as I had both devices already, it was just a matter of where my primary SIM resides in 🙂
Yeah, like a really large speeding ticket on a road without speed limit signs because you “should have known better.” And the Europhiles on here would say you deserved it because you should have driven at 15 mph just to be safe.
Nice to know I and many other people have suddenly become corporations. I wonder who our CEOs are?
A better comparison would be like complaining that you got a ticket on a road where, by law, the maximum speed is 50 km/h, and arguing that it wasn't written anywhere.
You just say this and it makes it magically true? Nothing of this suddenly becomes wrong just because you sell your opinion on a forum as a fact.
It was actually up to Apple to consult with EU lawmakers to make sure they got it right. They chose not to, instead taking the "play dumb and pretend we did our best" path.
Apple has a legal team, including lawyers familiar with EU law. Apple has the ability to directly consult with EU lawmakers on any change they were planning to make to iOS. Instead of actually consulting with lawmakers to confirm that the changes they were planning to make would actually comply with the DMA, Apple chose to "interpret" the DMA in as narrow a way as they felt would be most convenient to themselves and feign ignorance when it didn't work out.
The "hope they got it right" is, again, nothing more than Apple hoping that a court sympathetic to corporate lobbyists would interpret the DMA as narrowly as Apple wants them to.
Pasting walls of text that deliberately miss important points do not make you right.
dpogue, do you happen to know the following: when an app on my iPhone/iPad uses WKWebView, is any data (cookies or history) stored in Safari browser? I ask because I typically use Private Browsing when surfing new sites so they don't litter my devices with their cookies. I would not like it if apps litter my device with cookies through WKWebView.
All data is stored sandboxed to the application, so any cookies/storage/history will not be shared with Safari. This is definitely true for WKWebView, and I believe it's also true for SFSafariViewController on recent iOS versions.