I was of the opinion that all XR and XS iPhones were running iOS 12 ?
The article claims that all iOS 12 are exempt from any bans.
The article claims that all iOS 12 are exempt from any bans.
What legal docs? I didn't even read the article lol. But the post made it sound like Apple was crying to have Qualcomm quit squeezing their nuts
At what point in history has China had an issue harming it's own for the perceived greater good of China? China's beef is with the US. Apple's argument is a much smaller concern (if it's a concern at all) when put against the the specter of governmental leverage.
Your arguments seem to put the US and China's concerns on the same level as Apple, and Qualcomm. They aren't.That’s the part I do get. I just think if China wants to be petty and go that route they have better options that trying to punish an American company with another one in a very public display. Seems like a move a country would make only when it’s starting to run out of options.
Especially if the punishment is done in a way that would eventually harm their own manufacturers.
I get this argument and yet I don’t. If it was a Chinese electronics company vs Apple it would make more sense, but they are both American corporations, China aiding Qualcomm doesn’t really “hurt” the US (at least not anymore than China aiding Apple) if Qualcomm wins, an American company will make more money, if Apple wins a different American company will make more money.
In fact Qualcomm winning would probably be bad for Huawei, as they would be forced to pay more to license their phones.
It is funny to see China actually getting involved with international IP cases. The cynic in me has a uneasy feeling China is doing this to promote their own national phone manufacturers. While iPhones are made in China, they’re not Chinese technology. Shutting down Apple’s sales seems like a good way to boost their own technology firms.No offense but you're looking at it entirely the wrong way. This would have nothing to do with money and everything to do with perception... who makes the other look bad (China or US). Qualcomm would be the weapon China uses to bludgeon the US' darling Apple, and by proxy, bludgeon the US. Public sentiment would be pretty bad and the perception would be it's Trump's fault. Who makes money would be an ancillary concern for Apple and Qualcomm, not the US or China.
I get this argument and yet I don’t. If it was a Chinese electronics company vs Apple it would make more sense, but they are both American corporations, China aiding Qualcomm doesn’t really “hurt” the US (at least not anymore than China aiding Apple) if Qualcomm wins, an American company will make more money, if Apple wins a different American company will make more money.
In fact Qualcomm winning would probably be bad for Huawei, as they would be forced to pay more to license their phones.
Afaik Apple isn't trying to break their contract. The contract expired. They don't want to continue paying Qualcomm under the old terms. They want to renegotiate and they think they're operating from a position of strength. Qualcomm thinks differently.I’m not too well versed on this debacle between Qualcomm and Apple, but it sounds like Apple is trying to break the contracted deal they agreed to. I’m not sure they have much recourse.
Just my opinion, but I don't think China gives two whits about the IP case. It just happens to be a convenient leverage point with Trump.It is funny to see China actually getting involved with international IP cases. The cynic in me has a uneasy feeling China is doing this to promote their own national phone manufacturers. While iPhones are made in China, they’re not Chinese technology. Shutting down Apple’s sales seems like a good way to boost their own technology firms.
In fact Qualcomm winning would probably be bad for Huawei, as they would be forced to pay more to license their phones.
That's like saying Goodyear and Ford are both American companies, so hurting either company has the same effect.
The difference is one company is an order of magnitude larger than the other. It has a much bigger effect on the economy.
You're assuming Huawei would pay.
Huawei makes its own baseband modem and SoC.
I can see that point, but it just seems a little... desperate? I don’t know, I just feel like if this really boils down to the whole trade war then China is starting to lose leverage and are just going for whatever they can get now. It doesn’t mean it’s not good leverage, it just seems like something somebody on the losing side would do when their backs are against the wall.
Yea it’s called “Utility” look it up. Which is the greatest good for the greatest number of people.The 15,000 in Austin probably make more than all of the 5 million in China.
Yea it’s called “Utility” look it up. Which is the greatest good for the greatest number of people.
The 15,000 in Austin probably make more than all of the 5 million in China.
Seems like Apple should have jumped on this around the time they jumped on the “A” series.
I still don't understand - How do you stop importing a product into a country - when it's manufactured in that country and then exported out to the rest of the world?
Just my opinion, but I don't think China gives two whits about the IP case. It just happens to be a convenient leverage point with Trump.