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It's always about trust. Do I trust Apple more than Meta right now? Yes. Do I trust them for the next 10 years? Who knows.

But Apple is the one holding all your data and by keeping other companies out, they have a monopoly on that data.

It's like saying you mustn't buy 3rd party car replacement parts because now other companies could track on which parts are replaced. If you do not allow 3rd parties, the car company is the one having your data.

And saying "buy another car" is valid due to the number of manufacturers. But it's iOS vs. Android. So either be locked in the iOS ecosystem and fully trust Apple or let Google get your data but have more choice for 3rd party add-ons.

The only competition is Huawei's HarmonyOS but apart from that, all manufacturers rely on Google.

Apple's statement against the DMA is just them trying to maintain their monopoly. If you think it's about privacy, see where data is stored for Chinese users. And if the US requires Apple to stop end-to-end encryption, Apple will not hesitate to give governments your data. Privacy is just a convenience as Apple doesn't rely on data gathering like Google does

It’s funny you bring up cars… auto manufacturers of course leading the charge on explicitly refusing to open up telemetry data to Apple and Google. Sure, they say it’s to protect the data, to prevent their secrets from being stolen… that also may be true, even if cynical… but that sure isn’t stopping them from taking that data themselves. Oh well. That’s the benefit of controlling your own product.
 
It's always about trust. Do I trust Apple more than Meta right now? Yes. Do I trust them for the next 10 years? Who knows.

But Apple is the one holding all your data and by keeping other companies out, they have a monopoly on that data.

It's like saying you mustn't buy 3rd party car replacement parts because now other companies could track on which parts are replaced. If you do not allow 3rd parties, the car company is the one having your data.

And saying "buy another car" is valid due to the number of manufacturers. But it's iOS vs. Android. So either be locked in the iOS ecosystem and fully trust Apple or let Google get your data but have more choice for 3rd party add-ons.

The only competition is Huawei's HarmonyOS but apart from that, all manufacturers rely on Google.

Apple's statement against the DMA is just them trying to maintain their monopoly. If you think it's about privacy, see where data is stored for Chinese users. And if the US requires Apple to stop end-to-end encryption, Apple will not hesitate to give governments your data. Privacy is just a convenience as Apple doesn't rely on data gathering like Google does
What monopoly? Be specific.
 
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European Union hasn't done anything for EU residents. Many decisions which they took only made our digital life difficult. Through GDPR, they force us to go though cookie settings every time we open a website. How hard it could be if they had only force websites to have a yes or no button once, until we close the browser or reset cookies?
Oh cookie consent, the best example how to **** up the enjoyment of the internet for millions. Every politician who was involved with that and unable to fix it for almost 10 years should be banned from decision making for the rest of their life.
 
100 percent my opinion. However if you taken the time to see what was written, you’d see commenting on that point was fair game.
No.
A stated that the EU had done nothing for the residents and then what can't have been more than 60 seconds later posted the contradiction that mandating that USBC was good.
Keep up.
 
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Oh cookie consent, the best example how to **** up the enjoyment of the internet for millions. Every politician who was involved with that and unable to fix it for almost 10 years should be banned from decision making for the rest of their life.
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If the cookie banner doesn’t look similar to these regarding the clear consent and ease of saying no. Then they are 99.9% in breach of GDPR.

If it’s an American site then it’s most likely a crappy U.S. regulation from California etc
 
This is real danger. EU in his witch-hunting is targeting Apple, and it could affect security. As a final user I don’t care about “competition”, but I don’t trust companies like Meta or Google with my data. I choose Apple for a specific reason.
 
Interoperability is important.

But so is privacy.

Great more popups, sorry but this why I use an iPhone. I'm glad Apple walled off the EU version of iOS when they make Apple open everyhting up to Meta it will only be in the EU.

This is real danger. EU in his witch-hunting is targeting Apple, and it could affect security. As a final user I don’t care about “competition”, but I don’t trust companies like Meta or Google with my data. I choose Apple for a specific reason.
Your privacy and security remain untouched, since you‘re always free to a) not use Meta products and b) to simply deny the permission requests you are not comfortable with.

Pure FUD in this topic.

Disclaimer: heavily against Meta, but I couldn‘t care less if iOS provides new APIs they can use and try to gauge data from gullible Meta products fans. It wont ever affect me, since I wont approve any permission requests they prompt me with.
 
If you have to ask why then I'm not sure there's anything I can tell you that you'll understand. Just consider that in the very same post you write;
Forcing Apple to use USB C on iPhones was good
Everyone knew that Apple would move to USB-C eventually. EU's decision played a small role in it. But being a resident in EU, what I can see that many decisions only create problems for the countries. There are more losers than gainers in EU. It created more bureaucracy, more corruption and unstable economy.
 
On a fundamental level, there are functions and objects that should only be accessible to the core OS. Apple does not need to give those to outside developers. At the same time, Apple does not need to use those same functions and objects in their own applications.
 
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Apple, at this point you've dropped your pants and let them bend you over time after time. Either back out of the EU all together or shut up at this point. You playing along with their BS is why this is still going on.
 
So they refuse to take responsibility for CrowdStrike, AND refuse to learn from the lesson of CrowdStrike!

“Apple never told us that obviously bad ideas are bad ideas!” — EU regulators in the future

Probably REALLY didn’t like when Microsoft said that if they had a system like Apple’s, it would have prevented the whole thing from happening in the first place :D
 
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For the first time in all this saga I think apple has a very valid point. I don’t mind paying a little more for an iPhone in part due to security and privacy, I don’t really care for meta perusing my data at their pleasure for the sake of openness.
 
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which aim to create fair competition
It should ALWAYS be clarified that the EU doesn’t want to see competition between Android and iOS, and absolUTEly doesn’t want to see any new companies enter the market. They ONLY aim to “create fair competition” on top of Apple/Google’s OS’s and via Apple/Google’s app stores. They don’t consider anything else worthy of competition.
 
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"We will never abandon our bedrock commitment to our users' privacy and security," adds Apple. "We trust that the EC will seek to implement the interoperability requirements in a manner that respects the GDPR."
One would THINK, but, the DMA was hastily thrown together after Vestager was aware that her OTHER shenanigans ended up with her losing support. She knew she was on the way out so rushed through regulations that does NOT define the iPad as a “gatekeeper” device, so, they just declared it a “gatekeeper” device in complete conflict with the DMA.

For a regulation in conflict with itself, it’s not surprising that it would be in conflict with GDPR. :)
 
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Everyone knew that Apple would move to USB-C eventually. EU's decision played a small role in it. But being a resident in EU, what I can see that many decisions only create problems for the countries. There are more losers than gainers in EU. It created more bureaucracy, more corruption and unstable economy.
Exactly. Apple quite literally created USB-C, then provided it to the standards bodies to work on the implementation. Of the companies that had employees assigned to the task, Apple’s group of employees was second ONLY to Intel. The tech world wisely ignored the tech-deaf EU’s Memorandum of Understanding to standardize on microUSB. And, when USB-C was ready, there was little resistance because the tech world was already on board and a part of making the change happen. The only reason why Apple took a full 10 years from adopting lightning to adopting USB-C is because that’s exactly what they announced they’d do when switching to lightning! Which is crazy when you think about it. They were THAT confident that, in 10 years, a reversible, universal cabling system would be available to transition to even though it hadn’t even been fully standardized yet! (Lightning was out in 2012, USB-C wasn’t ratified until 2 years later!)

In all this, the only part the EU had in it was changing their mind from microUSB to USB-C and then closing the barn gate BEHIND them when the entire tech world had already moved on (USB-C isn’t required until the end of THIS year).
 
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At some point, I suspect using 'privacy' as their default response to any/all competitive complaints about their products is going to get pretty stale and hard to defend/justify....
I know right? It’s like everyone should have access to bathrooms whenever they need to go. And, if there’s not a public one around, there’s no problem just removing the locks on everyone’s doors so everyone can have that access. Anyone that says that’s a ‘privacy’ concern is just trying to be anticompetitive with THEIR bathroom!
 
This is real danger. EU in his witch-hunting is targeting Apple, and it could affect security. As a final user I don’t care about “competition”, but I don’t trust companies like Meta or Google with my data. I choose Apple for a specific reason.
It’s already affected security. They said that companies like CrowdStrike should have the same level of access to Microsoft’s security as Microsoft. It was fine for a number of years, but when it failed, it failed BIG time and all the EU regulators did was point fingers at Microsoft saying, “They didn’t tell us our stupid idea was stupid!” Which I don’t believe for one moment :)
 
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One would THINK, but, the DMA was hastily thrown together after Vestager was aware that her OTHER shenanigans ended up with her losing support. She knew she was on the way out so rushed through regulations that does NOT define the iPad as a “gatekeeper” device, so, they just declared it a “gatekeeper” device in complete conflict with the DMA.

For a regulation in conflict with itself, it’s not surprising that it would be in conflict with GDPR. :)
Oh please, hastily thrown together? Vestager is nether controlling the commission, and not the body that passes it.

Now what part of the DMA is in conflict with itself regarding the iPad and GDPR? You have obviously not a clue of how any of these things works 😂
 
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his is crazy. Meta should be put out of business. What a cancer to society. Also, when I had an account, they never reacted to scamp posts, bots, and other clearly malicious activity. Everything was according to rules :D But when bots reported some random dudes posts, they immediately froze account for a month. Wouldn't be surprised if zuk is teabagging with putin.
 
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