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I bought my Apple Watch in September 2015 with AppleCare +, which gives me protection through September 2017. I'm not going to buy another watch until then and at that point, the Apple Watch 3 will be out or a few months away. A new $800 watch isn't a yearly purchase for most people.
 
Would releasing the second watch alongside the next iPhone hurt the watch sales? People will already be dropping $650+ on the new iPhone, and I don't think the watch is appealing enough to drop an additional ~$300+ at the same time.

That depends on how appealing the next iPhone is. Some people may prefer the Apple Watch 2 to an iPhone that looks similar to the 6/6s.
 
Until it gets me 1 week of battery life I'm not seeing the point
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When I am at work, sitting at the desk, I don't like the phone in my pocket, so I lay it on the desk. Often I will get up and move about the office to talk to others, and not pick up the phone. Many many many times I have gotten calls or other notifictions when the phone isn't in my pocket, but the watch is on my wrist. The same happens at home all the time. I will be upstairs, and my phone downstairs, a call come in and I take it on the watch.

When walking on the streets or in a mall, I would often not hear my phone ringing in my pocket, with the watch I get those calls and notifications. It is a great extension to the phone, and something that now after 1 year of wearing every day, I would not do with out.
You know a $50 fitbit does that right? Oh and it lasts 1 week on battery
 
Frankly this applies to the smartwatch niche as a whole, it was a fad and it's already dying. The industry is trying to find new ways to sell gizmos to the masses, and those plans are not all successful.

Unless Apple can make a new version of the watch that doesn't rely on the iPhone, has actual purpose, etc - then it may be an interesting boost. As is, if it's only thinner or adds a longer-lasting battery, it's really of no interest.

Yeah, reality has really taken the wind out of the sails of smart watches. Maybe if like you said the Apple Watch become more autonomous it would look more appealing, but that's a big 'if' at this point.
 
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Really, you don't get it do you. We played with mercury when I was a kid, we rolled it around on the floor, stepped on it to see it shoot in all directions then come back together, etc. And none of us kids are dead. Granted we were smart enough to not eat it and that is a stretch for todays youth. It was included in our chemistry kits. You say, whats the point? The point is that most warnings about chemicals and products today are just scare tactics to get you under control of the politicians.

Sure there were some really bad things that needed regulated, but the other 70 to 80% (and mostly the focus today) are nothing more than scare tactics. Remember DDT the first win for the environmental movement. Well guess what? The science published in every newspaper and shown to Congress was completely fabricated for political gain.

Today that exact same DDT is approved for use in exactly the same way in some 60% of the world outside of the U.S. Oh and banning it resulted in, depending on who you choose to believe, the deaths of 5 to 25 million children and elderly. No one estimates less than 5 million. You won't find that in the news because its not politically correct and its not what the politicians want you to know, but a little research will give enough evidence for anyone with an open mind.

The scared always follow orders. Remember WMDs? Politics is all about getting you to follow orders and it applies to both political parties or any of the political power hungry elite.

Acute inhalation of high concentrations [of elemental mercury] causes a wide variety of cognitive, personality, sensory, and motor disturbances. Obviously.
 
Unlike "jewelry" watches such as Rolex, Omega, etc., where I do own different models with different features, I don't need more than one Apple watch. And unlike most personal electronics, when jewelry watches are updated the older ones sometimes gain higher values. And as another poster says, I spent more on bands than the watch so the new one better work with the old bands or I will be really ticked.

And there are plenty of people who own fashion watches that all do essentially the same thing, with the distinction being their look. Even Movado makes dozens of different variations on its basic design, some with or without additional features, offering something for everyone, and a reason to own more than one.

Apple shouldn't ignore that fundamental choice for customers of wearables, especially with an entire watch industry demonstrating that principle in action.

Nor should Apple try to cram everything into one device. Why can't there be a Sport watch that offers different features for specific tasks, like GPS? Just like you have various "jewelry" watches that you wear depending on the occasion?

An iPhone is a commodity, the sales of a single unit benefits all users whether a particular customer needs a particular feature or not. But a watch is a personal expression of individuality -- and at this point in our technological development, constricted by what utility it can offer. Hence hefty diving watches, and wafer thin elegant formal watches, etc.

Apple has stepped into the deep end here, and should probably embrace the thing that has driven the watch business, and indeed the jewelry and fashion business for years, and give the customer the choice they demand for something they are going to wear, not just pay lip-service to the idea Jony Ive has acknowledged, but not necessarily delivered upon.
 
Really, an article on this very site, just a few days ago said 2/3 that people that had the AW1, would buy the new one sight unseen and now you say this based on this article. Why pick this one hey as your basis for an opinion? Confirmation bias?

If 2/3 buy the new one and they get new people coming in because its a much better product (generation 2), then their sales go up; simple isn't it.
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Good grief. google a bit, it's waterproof for 90% of people's water usage.

It's water-resistant not waterproof. I want to be able use it while swimming.
 
It's water-resistant not waterproof. I want to be able use it while swimming.

not sure it means much to you, but I wear mine for casual swimming all the time (such as 30-60 min swims in the pool).

Just keep in mind, Apple does not recommend this... and probably won't warranty it, so use it at your own risk. I personally have had no problems since day 1.

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not sure it means much to you, but I wear mine for casual swimming all the time (such as 30-60 min swims in the pool).

Just keep in mind, Apple does not recommend this... and probably won't warranty it, so use it at your own risk. I personally have had no problems since day 1.

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I wouldn't risk it.In any case ideally, which technically is quite difficult, it would be amazing if it were both waterproof and the Heart Rate Monitor was working. You can do that with a Garmin but it has a chest strap.
 
Unlike "jewelry" watches such as Rolex, Omega, etc., where I do own different models with different features, I don't need more than one Apple watch.

Perhaps that's because there's only one main Apple watch style to choose from so far and they all act the same ;)

If there were more choices, you might get more of them, same as you bought multiple bands.

Similarly, I have multiple Android watches of various shapes and styles, which lets me pick the one that suits me for the day. I can also just swap one out for a freshly charged one in an instant.

I agree with those who think Apple is missing a huge opportunity to grab more sales by putting out multiple styles.
 
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The Garmin's Fenix 3 is a superior product. Apple needs to take notes on that design and functionality.

That thing is hideous! From a design standpoint I have seen much better looking $10 casio watches. As for functionality I can not say either way.
 
Wow, it speaks volumes about what people think of Apple these days that it would even occur that they might make bands incompatible. It would be such a dick move and huge middle finger to their customers yet it's something people think about.

And if this is on an Apple fan site, just imagine where Apple's reputation is going.

It is true - and I can certainly (and have been) be called a "fanboy"... I basically own one of every product Apple makes.

Note: I would not be _mad_ at Apple if they change the band connector (I'm that big of a fan!)... I would simply bide my time with my existing Watch and bands until I felt like I had gotten my money's worth out of them and then upgraded.

You can't get upset with this stuff with Apple. They like to change things... it's what they do. It's one of the reasons I like to buy their stuff (it's always forward thinking, and targeted at niches instead of mass market plastic bricks). But it does come with certain consequences.

Currently I would put it at a 75% chance that the new Watch will work with the old bands...
 
I don't believe the Apple Watch will ever have a FaceTime camera. The watch isn't meant to be held in an unnatural position for the length of a FaceTime conversation. It works for phone calls because you don't have to hold it up to your face and can walk around with your arm down during a phone call. A FaceTime camera on the watch would look right up your nose and the screen is too tiny for it to be worth it. Not happening.

If you think about it, you have to hold your arm up in an uncomfortable position during FaceTime calls on your phone, so I don't believe it'll be an issue for a Smart Watch. I believe it's most definitely going to happen. I think that's one of the most top features people would want, especially if Apple makes it thinner/lighter and expands the screen sizes! (FaceTime, Skype, etc.) :apple::D
 
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Until it gets me 1 week of battery life I'm not seeing the point
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You know a $50 fitbit does that right? Oh and it lasts 1 week on battery

You can answer phone calls on a $50 fitbit? I had no idea. But in all honesty, the price really makes no difference to me, I'm not a kid playing video games, I am a grown up with a real job, so $50 or $400 it's all the same to me.
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Until it gets me 1 week of battery life I'm not seeing the point
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You know a $50 fitbit does that right? Oh and it lasts 1 week on battery

Just looked at Fitbit website and the only product that was close to $50 was $59 and only counted steps. None of the devices are able to take a phone call.

I would never sleep with any watch on, so placing it on charge on the night stand and using it as I night clock is something I would do even if the battery lasted 2 years.

Oh, I also do Apple pay with it often, and have already when my phone was left at home.
 
If you think about it, you have to hold your arm up in an uncomfortable position during FaceTime calls on your phone, so I don't believe it'll be an issue for a Smart Watch. I believe it's most definitely going to happen. I think that's one of the most top features people would want, especially if Apple makes it thinner/lighter and expands the screen sizes! (FaceTime, Skype, etc.) :apple::D

As a Gen 1 owner I can say that Facetime on the Watch _is_ something I'm looking forward to and would push me to upgrade. My wife and I use Facetime more than regular calling... and it's annoying to not be able to at least answer the call.

If it looks like the conversation is going to take a while then I can always pull out my phone... but most of the time it's just a quick "hi", etc.
 
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I have Gen 1 and I will upgrade instantly as long as they do one thing: keep compatibility with the existing bands!

At this point I have more invested in bands than in the Watch itself. I would love to be able to grow a nice cache of bands and then just flip out a couple of hundred bucks every other year to upgrade the Watch.

Otherwise, I'll probably wait for Watch 3 so I can get some more use out of my bands.

We'll have to wait and see'

They will, but they should make that explicit now so people keep buying the bands.
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Where do you live?

Living in Boston I see quite a few people with them. They are definitely not ubiquitous by any means... but I see someone with one on nearly every day.

I went for a haircut last week and my stylus had one. Chatted me up the whole time about everything it does for him.

The market for the Watch is not iPhone big... but there are many people out there that would appreciate instant wrist notifications, health tracking and targeted apps (everyone's "killer app" is different on the Watch... for me, it's an app that shows how long until my bus is coming in the morning.).

I see them daily in Chicago and NYC as well.
 
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I don't get it. This isn't a product category that needs annual updates, and even with the purported new features (ability to be fully untethered from an iPhone, FaceTime camera, etc), those features would likely require substantial amounts of additional power, which the tiny battery inside the Watch wouldn't be able to support for any decent period of time. Saying "hey, you can make and receive FaceTime Video calls on this thing now" won't matter in the slightest if you could only do so for a short period of time prior to the watch needing to enter Power Reserve.

Help me understand.
 
You can answer phone calls on a $50 fitbit? I had no idea. But in all honesty, the price really makes no difference to me, I'm not a kid playing video games, I am a grown up with a real job, so $50 or $400 it's all the same to me.
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Just looked at Fitbit website and the only product that was close to $50 was $59 and only counted steps. None of the devices are able to take a phone call.

I would never sleep with any watch on, so placing it on charge on the night stand and using it as I night clock is something I would do even if the battery lasted 2 years.

Oh, I also do Apple pay with it often, and have already when my phone was left at home.

Why does anyone need to make a phone call on their watch? Since when is that the primary feature? You know the thing that will drain the watch in less than 3 hours if you actually use it a lot?

I don't get it. This isn't a product category that needs annual updates, and even with the purported new features (ability to be fully untethered from an iPhone, FaceTime camera, etc), those features would likely require substantial amounts of additional power, which the tiny battery inside the Watch wouldn't be able to support for any decent period of time. Saying "hey, you can make and receive FaceTime Video calls on this thing now" won't matter in the slightest if you could only do so for a short period of time prior to the watch needing to enter Power Reserve.

Help me understand.

It's called restraint. The Watch already allows a massive power sucking app in allowing customers to make phone calls. It's a feature one uses for convenience. Likewise with FaceTime. The watch allows you to take the call quickly, then dig out your phone or go find it, then hand the call off if it's going to go on for a while. That's the entire premise of the watch -- that you don't have to use your phone.

And yes, the watch does require periodic updates with new features. Why wouldn't it? Everybody buys the watch for something different. Many people passed on the watch this first time around because it lacks GPS. Apple ads it, they get those people who might otherwise go to the competition. It doesn't matter if you don't use it. It's what motivates someone else. And I'm not even touching on the fashion angle which is at least as important if not more so to selling a product someone wears, whether it is to you personally or not.
 
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There's no guarantee that the Apple Watch will ever become a smash hit, but remember- the iPad didn't really take off until the iPad 2 was released. If the Apple Watch 2 can do the same thing for the Apple Watch, it's going to have a bright future.

And now iPad sales are dropping quarter after quarter.
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The watch is a dud. Think i've seen only 1 person wear one.

I actually saw my first one in the wild yesterday.
 
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Nobody cares about these watches anyway, what we need is new MacBook pros, and rumors about them !

Umm...clearly you care by commenting on this post and reading this rumor. Please leave or I'm calling the Troll Police on you. Leave the Watch viewers to make concrete posts.
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This is one of the ugliest thing ever.

It looks like my $20.00 Timex. I'm sure it works well, but that thing is ugly. Just sayin.
 
I'll consider the Apple Watch once it can do the same basic thing as the LG G Watch Android Wear (nowadays compatible with iOS too) [...] That thing is showing the time constantly
If "showing the time constantly" is your primary demand, a 10€ Casio does it even much more inexpensively. Android watches may be compatible with iOS nowadays, but that is quite different from being as deeply integrated as the Apple Watch.

fashion watches [...] with [...] dozens of different variations on its basic design, some with or without additional features, offering something for everyone, and a reason to own more than one.
You mean, like the cellphone market prior to the iPhone? Yeah - everyone back then had a a couple of cellphones to cover various use scenarios ... NOT!

Apple shouldn't ignore that fundamental choice for customers of wearables, especially with an entire watch industry demonstrating that principle in action.
Apple did not shake up the cellphone industry by simply copying its structures.

Nor should Apple try to cram everything into one device. Why can't there be a Sport watch that offers different features for specific tasks, like GPS? Just like you have various "jewelry" watches that you wear depending on the occasion?
Because the target group owning "various 'jewelry' watches" is already well catered for by the existing watch industry. Apple would have to enter a price war they couldn't win.

An iPhone is a commodity, the sales of a single unit benefits all users whether a particular customer needs a particular feature or not. But a watch is a personal expression of individuality
I fail to see the difference you claim.

Apple [...] should probably embrace the thing that has driven the watch business, and indeed the jewelry and fashion business for years
And become yet another "me too" company that will fade faster than it entered? Hopefully Apple won't make this huge mistake!

I agree with those who think Apple is missing a huge opportunity to grab more sales by putting out multiple styles.
Absolutely! Let's call them AppleWatch Classic, SE, LC, IIc, IIgs, Centris, Quadra and Performa.

They should also license watchOS and the Apple Watch hardware to 3rd party manufacturers, so they can further increase Sales numbers by having cheap Apple Watch clones available.

Perhaps they could even lure Michael Spindler and Gil Amelio out of retirement. They know Apple well and the company could profit from their historically proven management expertise.
 
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