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Isn't that a basic problem with the watch, though?
That you're NOT more independent from your iPhone. Doesn't the watch require the iPhone for most of it's more important functions to be able to work (such as the ones you listed)?

Yes sure but I do not have to watch my iPhone. My iPhone is at some place in my home. Usually docked to the charger. I would have to go to the phone from time to time to see if any new notification comes in. Same when I am out of the house. Its either in my jacket or in my backpack. Not in my hand. At least not often. I know to many people walking around starring at their phones all the time. I am not one of those people.
 
Hope Apple just lets this thing die already. Move on to something else. It's been a year and people that have it realize that it's something they can easily live without. Before it came out, I actually thought this was a good idea. But everyone makes mistakes. Even the great ones. Take the L and just move on. The problem here is that Apple is too arrogant and prideful and will continue beating this dead horse for years to come:(
 
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If they really want to drive adoption that all it needs to be is cheaper, a lot cheaper. $150 for the base model makes sense.
 
yay.. internal upgrades.. Apple's going for the guts... and i haven't even got a smart watch.
 
Just a thought I had... is it just me, or is Apple being reallyyyyy slow with product updates/releases over the past year and a half or so? You'd think that the most valuable company in the world, with tens of thousands of employees and practically unlimited resources, would be able to churn out new designs and products like a well-oiled machine. Right? Maybe I'm wrong. But the Apple Watch specifically has had an excuciatingly slow burn it seems. I don't know, maybe my perspective is skewed by the unusually long Mac drought we are currently in right now. *sigh*
 
So what we've learned from analysts this week is that the Apple watch may or may not have a different form factor, and may or may not be launched at some point this year.

Got it.
The one thing analysts actually give us, are opportunities for fans and haters to argue.
According to analysts this may be true or not.
 
I don't think many people are going to drop 750 for a phone then 350+ for a watch. I would recommend shipping the watch around the holidays so people can buy them as gifts.
 
Just a thought I had... is it just me, or is Apple being reallyyyyy slow with product updates/releases over the past year and a half or so? You'd think that the most valuable company in the world, with tens of thousands of employees and practically unlimited resources, would be able to churn out new designs and products like a well-oiled machine. Right? Maybe I'm wrong. But the Apple Watch specifically has had an excuciatingly slow burn it seems. I don't know, maybe my perspective is skewed by the unusually long Mac drought we are currently in right now. *sigh*
Churning out? Surely that would be copying S*****g, leave the churning out to the masters of it.
 
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Customers don't want an Apple Watch because everyone has upgrade fatigue. Nobody wants to purchase a piece of jewelry that has to be replaced every 12 months because it has become obsolete. Meanwhile, my $1,000 Tissot watch that I purchased in Switzerland 11 years ago is still stylish, works perfectly, and will never be obsolete. And -- never needs to be charged. Only needed to replace its battery ONCE in 11 years.

Tissot will never release a new model of watch? That seems to be your definition of 'obsolete'.
 
The Apple Watch does not need a hardware update every year.

That's right. Just like the fashion industry can keep making the same clothes every year. People will keep buying and wearing the same identical thing from last year, for years to come. Stagnation works so well for the fashion industry. /s

The current watch industry doesn't even work like that now. Not even the smart watch industry. Why should Apple, which has demonstrated a significant interest in the fashion component of this product, approach it differently? Throwing more watch bands at it will work to a certain extent, but if someone doesn't like something about the case styling, they're not going to be convinced by the least prominent part of the watch, however stylish.
 
tried to use an app on my Apple Watch for the first time in months on mine and seconds later i was like nope f this s. if i want to wait 10 seconds for something to open i would use my 10 year old sony vaio laptop.

i really dont think Jobs with his OCD would have allowed something like this ever to be released. the usabilty is horrible. i pretty much use mine as well a watch or for notifications so i dont have to check my iPhone obsessively every few minutes.

friend: whats the weather gonna be like later?
me: let me check my watch
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oh hold up it has to refresh
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friend: ... nvm ill just check my phone
 
Personally, I have no interest in a smart watch. Additionally, I know several former users who no longer wear it. But I also don't doubt at all that it works for people. In short, it's a limited market, but very useful for some.

Nothing wrong with that, but I don't think it's going to be a massive game changer.

Now, about those Mac and OSX updates...

Irrespective of the smart watch brand, everyone I know that has one gets pretty committed and continues to wear some type of smart watch after.

I've yet to encounter a person that just throws their smart watch in storage and abandons it after a few weeks.
 
the fact they say 20-40% thinner makes me think that the rumor is true and they actually know the exact percentage of thinness but if reported would expose the source of the leak
 
I'll consider the Apple Watch once it can do the same basic thing as the LG G Watch Android Wear (nowadays compatible with iOS too) device I bought secondhand in mint condition for 150€. That thing is showing the time constantly, so that I don't need any additional acrobatics to wake up the watch when I want to see what time it is.
 
Unlike "jewelry" watches such as Rolex, Omega, etc., where I do own different models with different features, I don't need more than one Apple watch. And unlike most personal electronics, when jewelry watches are updated the older ones sometimes gain higher values. And as another poster says, I spent more on bands than the watch so the new one better work with the old bands or I will be really ticked.
 
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