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I have Gen 1 and I will upgrade instantly as long as they do one thing: keep compatibility with the existing bands!

At this point I have more invested in bands than in the Watch itself. I would love to be able to grow a nice cache of bands and then just flip out a couple of hundred bucks every other year to upgrade the Watch.

Otherwise, I'll probably wait for Watch 3 so I can get some more use out of my bands.

We'll have to wait and see'

I bet my left leg they will - its a no brainer. I can't believe people are even considering they won't. If anyones willing to put money where there mouth is they think Apple wont its an easy bet id like to win please PM me...
 
Hopefully they don't start refreshing the Watch at the same time as the Phone...keep them separate so your market has time to financially handle their purchases or a good chunk will have to just get one.

Normally v2 devices are significantly improved for Apple, but we'll see (based on the hand waving analysts here).
 
I agree with others that Apple Watch is a niche and honestly, kind of "geeky". It's very unlike the iPhone when it first came out; everyone wanted an iPhone as it brought communication/info to your pocket. Apple Watch seems "too connected".

We're already connected enough with technology (iPad/iPhone/Mac); we don't need to be wearing it.
 
I agree. I just think there are less people in that boat. I came from android wear/pebble watches and even the first gen apple watch blows those out of the water in terms of looks and polish. The whole "use apps on your watch" is silly. That is not what a smartwatch is good at. It should just focus on delivering notifications.

I don't have an Apple Watch - but I agree. I think these watches are also mislabeled. None of the watches are truly SMART watches. I also think OEMs are mistaken that people (many, I imagine) are not looking for a computer on their wrist but a genuinely great notification (and activity monitoring) device. Simplicity is actually the better route to go. Maybe I'm wrong. But among the people I've talked to with or without a smart watch don't want/need all of the extra "bells and whistles."
 
Personally, I have no interest in a smart watch. Additionally, I know several former users who no longer wear it. But I also don't doubt at all that it works for people. In short, it's a limited market, but very useful for some.

Nothing wrong with that, but I don't think it's going to be a massive game changer.

Now, about those Mac and OSX updates...
 
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Apple Watch shipments will decline more than 25 percent year-over-year in comparison to 2015, according to a new research note issued by KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo. The wearable device sold an estimated 10.6 million units in eight months last year, but Kuo predicts that even with the launch of the Apple Watch 2, and a full twelve months of sales, the device's shipments will still come in at less than 7.5 million units in 2016.

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The analyst describes an "immature wearable device market" and a few key lacking features of the first-generation Apple Watch -- iPhone independency, no killer app, limited battery life, etc. -- that will contribute to its overall sales decline prior to the launch of the second-generation version. Kuo believes that the Apple Watch 2 will enter mass production in the third quarter of 2016, in line with a fall launch alongside the iPhone 7, so its overall contribution to shipping numbers for the year is predicted to be limited.

Kuo's note also predicts some of the features of the next version of the Apple Watch, which is expected to adopt the same upgrade cycle as the iPhone. In essence, 2016's Apple Watch 2 will see some under-the-hood spec improvements and possibly minor form factor changes, while fans will have to wait until 2017 for a massively redesigned wearable from Apple. The similar design is one of Kuo's biggest reasons for declining Apple Watch shipments in 2016, despite even the uptick in sales the device could have during the holiday season.

The recent KGI Securities research note directly conflicts with a report from less-reliable Apple analyst Brian White, released last Friday, that predicted the Apple Watch 2 will not only launch in two to three months, but adopt a 40 percent slimmer case design. That launch window would put a reveal by Apple at WWDC in June with a launch following a few weeks later.

In either launch scenario, the Apple Watch 2 is rumored to have a bevy of feature improvements over its predecessor, including a FaceTime video camera, an expansion of its Wi-Fi capabilities, and new model tiers. Rumored casings of the next iteration of the device could possibly even incorporate new materials such as titanium, tungsten, palladium or platinum.

Article Link: Apple Watch Shipments Expected to Decline 25% in 2016 Despite Apple Watch 2 Launch

Who knows.... Maybe some day they will remember what made the company and turn there efforts towards new computers. But I must admit, i'm still waiting on the Apple Juicer!!!!!
 
I bet my left leg they will - its a no brainer. I can't believe people are even considering they won't. If anyones willing to put money where there mouth is they think Apple wont its an easy bet id like to win please PM me...

Well - Apple has never cared much for physical backward compatibility before. Even the "S" versions of iPhones are subtly different (thicker, thinner, etc.) than their predecessor... rendering many cases obsolete. Then there's the whole 30pin-Lightning thing that rendered a LOT of hardware and docs obsolete.

I suspect that the new Watch will be interoperable with the old bands. But I also realize that this is Apple... and they don't always care about backward compatibility.
 
Apple Watch:
on Siri: Hey Siri (wait 10 seconds) set the time.. Hey Siri.. Hey.. set the timer for 5 minutes.. (wait 15 seconds)..done
on Apps: Starting up weather app.. shows old info.. wait for.. oh damn, does not work.. open other app
On glances: **** waiting... waiting ***

Apple watch needs more CPU power and faster response for it to work..
I still wear it every day though, notifications seem to do fine which i do love
Agreed. I also think it was a bit faster at these functions when new. I was rather hoping that wOS2 would have improved this lag.
 
Hmm... unknown AW sales are going to dip even with release of unannounced AW2 with unknown design and feature set. Got it.


The Garmin's Fenix 3 is a superior product. Apple needs to take notes on that design and functionality.

Except that it's a big watch that ignores anyone w/ a small or med. wrist. I might have considered it when upgrading my previous Forerunner 620 if it was more of the 620/630's size. It is a nice design and feature set though for $500-600.
 
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Apple Watch shipments will decline more than 25 percent year-over-year in comparison to 2015, according to a new research note issued by KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo. The wearable device sold an estimated 10.6 million units in eight months last year, but Kuo predicts that even with the launch of the Apple Watch 2, and a full twelve months of sales, the device's shipments will still come in at less than 7.5 million units in 2016.

applewatchbuiltinapps-800x217.jpg

The analyst describes an "immature wearable device market" and a few key lacking features of the first-generation Apple Watch -- iPhone independency, no killer app, limited battery life, etc. -- that will contribute to its overall sales decline prior to the launch of the second-generation version. Kuo believes that the Apple Watch 2 will enter mass production in the third quarter of 2016, in line with a fall launch alongside the iPhone 7, so its overall contribution to shipping numbers for the year is predicted to be limited.

Kuo's note also predicts some of the features of the next version of the Apple Watch, which is expected to adopt the same upgrade cycle as the iPhone. In essence, 2016's Apple Watch 2 will see some under-the-hood spec improvements and possibly minor form factor changes, while fans will have to wait until 2017 for a massively redesigned wearable from Apple. The similar design is one of Kuo's biggest reasons for declining Apple Watch shipments in 2016, despite even the uptick in sales the device could have during the holiday season.

The recent KGI Securities research note directly conflicts with a report from less-reliable Apple analyst Brian White, released last Friday, that predicted the Apple Watch 2 will not only launch in two to three months, but adopt a 40 percent slimmer case design. That launch window would put a reveal by Apple at WWDC in June with a launch following a few weeks later.

In either launch scenario, the Apple Watch 2 is rumored to have a bevy of feature improvements over its predecessor, including a FaceTime video camera, an expansion of its Wi-Fi capabilities, and new model tiers. Rumored casings of the next iteration of the device could possibly even incorporate new materials such as titanium, tungsten, palladium or platinum.

Article Link: Apple Watch Shipments Expected to Decline 25% in 2016 Despite Apple Watch 2 Launch
[doublepost=1460378525][/doublepost]Only know of two people with an Apple watch and both of them wear them infrequently.
 
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The watch is a dud. Think i've seen only 1 person wear one.

Where do you live?

Living in Boston I see quite a few people with them. They are definitely not ubiquitous by any means... but I see someone with one on nearly every day.

I went for a haircut last week and my stylus had one. Chatted me up the whole time about everything it does for him.

The market for the Watch is not iPhone big... but there are many people out there that would appreciate instant wrist notifications, health tracking and targeted apps (everyone's "killer app" is different on the Watch... for me, it's an app that shows how long until my bus is coming in the morning.).
 
Apple Watch:
on Siri: Hey Siri (wait 10 seconds) set the time.. Hey Siri.. Hey.. set the timer for 5 minutes.. (wait 15 seconds)..done
on Apps: Starting up weather app.. shows old info.. wait for.. oh damn, does not work.. open other app
On glances: **** waiting... waiting ***

Apple watch needs more CPU power and faster response for it to work..
I still wear it every day though, notifications seem to do fine which i do love

"Hey Siri, open the Workout app."

"You don't seem to have an app named 'workout' on your watch."
 
Interesting. This time the requisite fawning over Ming-Chi Kuo comes not in the form of adding the usual descriptor (reliable, often-accurate, etc.) to Kuo's name, but instead by throwing shade at a competitor: "less-reliable Apple analyst Brian White." Seriously, does money change hands to get the continuous promotion of Kuo's supposed brilliance?
 
I don't have an Apple Watch - but I agree. I think these watches are also mislabeled. None of the watches are truly SMART watches. I also think OEMs are mistaken that people (many, I imagine) are not looking for a computer on their wrist but a genuinely great notification (and activity monitoring) device. Simplicity is actually the better route to go. Maybe I'm wrong. But among the people I've talked to with or without a smart watch don't want/need all of the extra "bells and whistles."

I don't know if it is because I had the original pebble and that is all it did, but that is truly all I want out of a smart watch. There is nothing efficient or easier about using an app on your wrist....ZERO. It works because I can leave my phone on complete silent (no vibrate either) and still be alerted to what I deem important. Nothing more and nothing less.
 
I had bought a brand new metal band moto 360 first gen last week for $100 and love it. But when that watch was first released I had nothing but negative things to say.
I can say the same for the Apple Watch. I hate that watch at the current price but knock it down to $100 I bet my feelings would change quickly.
 
I don't know if it is because I had the original pebble and that is all it did, but that is truly all I want out of a smart watch. There is nothing efficient or easier about using an app on your wrist....ZERO. It works because I can leave my phone on complete silent (no vibrate either) and still be alerted to what I deem important. Nothing more and nothing less.

Exactly - I think the Pebble nailed it. Not the greatest packaging, UE, etc. But as far as functionality for the most part. I was never in the market for a smartwatch anyway - but got the Pebble earlier on for $80 through a sale. Since I leave my ringer off almost all the time - it was great to never miss a call, message, etc. Like you - I don't want to "use" my watch. My watch is for conveying short bits of digestible information. I don't "play" with it. I don't want to spend a lot of time "fiddling" with controls or menus. I suspect there's a good chunk of the population that feels similarly. I know a lot of people that did buy the Apple watch and shrug their shoulders when I ask if they use it for X and Y. Mostly - they use it as a time piece and for some alerts. Some light fitness tracking. Most of who said their "x" device did the latter better anyway.
 
And Cho knows this how exactly? Didn't we get a rumor just the other day saying the watch would be 40% thinner? Now this rumor says no changes outside of internals? I swear people make crap up and throw it against the wall to see what sticks. And they know that rumor sites like this will print anything they write.
 
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