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Apple watch 2 [Merged]

A breathylizer seems like it would be fairly easy to implement, and extremely useful.

What's going to happen is many of the sensors for future generations (and perhaps 1st gen) will come in the form of "smart bands." The space needed for numerous sensors is just to large to fit inside an aesthetically pleasing case. With smart bands, the Apple Watch will really be their revolutionary new product. They're what every smart watch needs, yet none of them have.
 
Lennyvalentin said:
You would think so, but this is very, very problematic, for several reasons. On one hand you might have a watch/device which is overly precautious, sending you to the doc or a hospital when there's no genuine need to, consuming health care resources (and possibly costing you money in fees) with zero to show for it and making you as the user/wearer worry over nothing.

On the other hand you might have a watch/device which is inaccurate and missing signs that should have sent you to a doc/hospital - and you know what the end result of that would be, regardless of whatever disclaimers come attached to the product in question: giant bolded headlines in tabloid press of distraught relatives exclaiming "Apple killed my father/wife/sister/child/etc!" Tim Cook and gang really doesn't need, or want that, you can be sure.

There's nothing worse or more useless than a device which is supposed to give you important advice which you cannot rely on. Such a thing would be entirely pointless, and quite possibly a legal liability to its manufacturer as well.
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Yeah, I have to agree with Lennyvalentin. I'd be very wary of an excessive reliance on the watch for medical use. It is not what I'd consider a dependable device for these purposes, at least right now.

I mean, my watch has problems taking an accurate HR reading on the elliptical at times. I'd rather Apple focus on making the current functionality as accurate and reliable as possible.
 
fanta88 said:
Yeah, I have to agree with Lennyvalentin. I'd be very wary of an excessive reliance on the watch for medical use. It is not what I'd consider a dependable device for these purposes, at least right now.

I mean, my watch has problems taking an accurate HR reading on the elliptical at times. I'd rather Apple focus on making the current functionality as accurate and reliable as possible.
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For sure, should go without saying, I am surprised how far behind the AW is even utilising the extremely basic sensors it has already.
 
News today....

"Apple Inc. (AAPL) may have already captured a vast majority of the smart wearable device market with its watch, but analysts at Mizuho Securities said the company won't start to see real revenue gains from this emerging category until at least the second-generation watch is released. A survey produced by the brokerage indicates people - mostly iOS users -- are interested in buying a watch, but are awaiting Apple Watch 2 before purchase. "We might need to go through couple of iterations before smart watch adoption broadens," the analysts said. The analysts maintained a neutral rating and $125 price target on the stock, which implies a 15% increase from Tuesday's closing price. Shares of Apple recently traded up 0.8% to $109.90, but they have slid 13% over the last three months, underperforming the 9% decline for the broader Dow Jones Industrial Average.

-Jennifer Booton; 415-439-6400; AskNewswires@dowjones.com"



Does anyone have any Watch 2 rumors? I hear it will launch with new wrist bands which have sensors in the strap.

post away....
 
I have no rumors but I do hope they make a longer release schedule for these than with iPhones and software updates. Please not every year. Either way excited to hear rumors and guesses on what will be in the inevitable new one!!
 
I read a couple of days ago middle to end of 2016 before a second gen variant will be available.
 
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/09/29/apple-watch-2-mid-late-2016/

Some of the silly posters in that thread actually think they'll announce the v2 months ahead of time, then release it. Nope, doesn't work that way unless it's a brand new product. Why would they want to cannabilize their current product by announcing it several months ahead of debut, unless it's so old that it doesn't matter a la the new Mac Pro.
 
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According to "multiple sources" .. Huh.. Well, I have multiple sources that say the next Apple Watch will be a chicken..

Putting a facetime camera on the next watch will be a massive battery drain - just the pull on a battery to start the camera up is going to be an issue. They cannot add a camera (or gps, etc) and ignore the battery issue.

The other (larger imho) concern is that if they put a camera in, they will take away screen space, or add an ugly bonus piece outside of the current bezel. If they make it look like a dick tracy gadget, rather than a watch, they will lose sales.

At least if they put a gps in it, people can ignore the features it brings if they want, and dont have to have an addition they dont want staring them and everyone else in the face evey time they look at their watch.
 
bangers said:
The other (larger imho) concern is that if they put a camera in, they will take away screen space, or add an ugly bonus piece outside of the current bezel. If they make it look like a dick tracy gadget, rather than a watch, they will lose sales.
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Think outside the box. Apple has filed a patent for a camera hidden behind the display. In the future, the screen will likely serve as TouchID (eliminating the home button on iPhone to boot) and iSight camera.

So much for not updating the AW :D
 
JayLenochiniMac said:
Think outside the box. Apple has filed a patent for a camera hidden behind the display. In the future, the screen will likely serve as TouchID (eliminating the home button on iPhone to boot) and iSight camera.

So much for not updating the AW :D
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A camera hidden behind the screen would be very apple.. :) They will need to slim it down a whole lot to fit it in the case with a screen and force touch hardware on top of it.. Quite the challenge.

That will move it into the same league as a gps which I (personally) would find much more useful and I hope is the direction they go. At least I could ignore the camera if it wasnt obvious.

Either way they need to work on the battery life. Camera or gps is going to be a bit drain.
 
Imagine apple watch looking like this:cool:
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I am betting September 2016 for the AWII.

The round one does not look that bad. By 2016 Apple will have lots of other smart watches to compete against.

The Tomtom Spark series is looking very good to me for a fitness device.

Time will tell.
 
I've read mid to late 2016, possible FaceTime camera, same design to fit larger battery. That's all i've looked into it so far.
 
I'm not saying that there won't be newer, different designs of the Apple Watch in the future, but you can bet that Newson and Ive want the current Apple Watch's physical design to be considered somewhat timeless (no pun intended,) which is important in the world of wristwatches. They may very well keep the current physical design, with internal updates, for a long time. We'll probably see more materials or colors, too. I'd love to see one with more brushed steel, if they can make it work with the design.
 
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bangers said:
Putting a facetime camera on the next watch will be a massive battery drain - just the pull on a battery to start the camera up is going to be an issue. They cannot add a camera (or gps, etc) and ignore the battery issue.
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What is your basis for this? Apple already supports phone calls which is a massive power drain if one makes too many calls. It's not like people are going to have lengthy FaceTime chats on a watch, it's a convenience, and most likely more geared toward selfies. The user has to be given some responsibility in managing the resources of their device. Just like GPS, it's not a problem for someone who turns it off and never uses it. But for someone who wants it, that's likely enough to get them to buy it, and use it only when needed. Current GPS watches can go for 10 hours of continuous tracking, which well more than the Watch 5 hours of talk time, which they permit.

bangers said:
The other (larger imho) concern is that if they put a camera in, they will take away screen space, or add an ugly bonus piece outside of the current bezel. If they make it look like a dick tracy gadget, rather than a watch, they will lose sales.

At least if they put a gps in it, people can ignore the features it brings if they want, and dont have to have an addition they dont want staring them and everyone else in the face evey time they look at their watch.
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When has Apple ever made such compromises!? The protruding camera lens on the 6 series phones notwithstanding. Of course Apple won't release something like that. Doesn't mean a camera can't be incorporated elegantly.
 
Love my watch but ready for GPS and 2GB of RAM. Seems my 6S Plus and iPad Air 2 really got good (best so far) once they hit the bigger RAM number. I'm joking a little but on the other hand not that much.
 
douglasf13 said:
I'm not saying that there won't be newer, different designs of the Apple Watch in the future, but you can bet that Newson and Ive want the current Apple Watch's physical design to be considered somewhat timeless (no pun intended,) which is important in the world of wristwatches. They may very well keep the current physical design, with internal updates, for a long time.
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Yeah, they'll most likely keep the same basic physical design but make it thinner, in line with the latest rumor. The iPhone has retained essentially the same physical design since the original.
 
i want my current bands to fit..... it's one thing spending money on a case for the phone then replacing it in a year.... but a LOT (most?) people have invested on more than one additional strap (and some have spent WAY more then what the original watch cost!).... it will REALLY suck if they don't fit the next version!
 
caligurl said:
i want my current bands to fit..... it's one thing spending money on a case for the phone then replacing it in a year.... but a LOT (most?) people have invested on more than one additional strap (and some have spent WAY more then what the original watch cost!).... it will REALLY suck if they don't fit the next version!
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The connectors are considerably thinner than the current Watch body and I doubt they'd make the next iteration so thin that the current connectors are too thick.
 
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