Apple Watch 2 Not Likely to See March Debut [Updated]

[iMember]

Oh yes... That's the reason smartphones are more popular than laptops.

There was me thinking it was because they actually made cellular calls or could fit in your pocket.

if iPhone 6s had the same camera as the 6..would you still upgrade? camera is a more important feature to the iPhone than processor or the display
Processor: apps for intense graphics? Nothing big has really changed since 2010 infinity blade

strange because the iPhone 6 plus doesn't fit in my pocket

Yes i just paid $800 for device so I can make freakin phone calls!!!
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Are u serious with this statement? Cmon now.

What do you mean? I meant people buy a new smartphone because of the camera, but after buying it..they don't use the camera that much

 

[CyberBob859]

People have a collection of watches because they (can) look vastly different. While I can certainly tell the difference between a Sport and SS AW I don't think the difference is quite as drastic.

There's also the obvious point that an AW looks drastically different if you simply switch out the watch band. My black Sport AW looks much nicer with a leather loop, which is what I use for suits and events. Why would I purchase a SS AW when I can easily dress up my Sport watch by simply changing the strap?

I've never read a single person on this forum or others that said they plan on purchasing 2 AW's. Not saying nobody has or will do this but I seriously don't see this as something that will be a common occurrence. Pairing a second Watch is still a time consuming event. Even if Apple makes this easier down the road, I don't see that as a indication that people will start purchasing 2 AW's at a time.

The Apple Watch needs even more differentiation. Give the Sport version a GPS and make it waterproof. Give the more expensive versions exclusive watch faces, bands, different metal constructions, a camera, and luxury branding (like Hermes).

If Apple wants to get people to pair two watches to a phone, one version for working out/exercise or running, and another for work/business/style would do it.

 

[Jakexb]

If they have advanced health sensors, I might upgrade. They've hired so many people working on optical blood pressure, blood sugar, oxygenation... That's the stuff that starts to become a killer app for people fitness /health geeks as well as anyone with health issues that need monitoring with currently cumbersome methods.

 

[robbyx]

Huh? The only product in Apple history that had huge initial sales was the iPad. The chart below is a little old but works to illustrate my point. iPod sales didn't take off until iTunes came to Windows. iPhone didn't really take off until the 3GS.

Wearables are in their infancy as a category. It's not surprising that consumers are taking a wait and see approach. It's nonsense to think Watch is a failure because it hasn't sold 30 million in less than a year. It took iPhone nearly 3 years to get to 50m units and iPhone isn't an accessory like Watch is.

I agree that the wearables category is in its infancy. However, I don't think you can compare the Apple Watch sales to iPhone sales. The iPhone was a completely new piece of tech. The Watch is an accessory for a much loved product that sells hundreds of millions of units per year. Apple had to work hard to acquire the iPhone customer. The Watch customer has already been acquired. Apple just needs to convince them that the Watch is necessary - and Apple has thus far pretty much failed to do so. Convincing people to buy iPhones should be much harder than convincing iPhone customers to buy Apple Watches. That's the whole point. So yes, it took iPhone nearly 3 years to sell 50m units. So what? We have a product that people line up and camp out to buy (iPhone), but these same fanatics are so disinterested in the Watch that Apple can't even sell 5% of them an accessory designed for their much-loved phone. It's a fail.
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seeing how you drank the cool aid and went out and bought one how do you know what every consumer is doing. You dont have a clue. show me where you got that information that it is the reason others havent bought one. I know its not my reason why I didnt buy one. It has nothing to do with wait and see. It has to do with my phone already doing what 99% of what the watch can do and do it better.

I finally found a reason to buy an Apple Watch. Skiing. It sucks trying to coordinate with friends on the mountain, taking off gloves and pulling one's phone out of one's pocket to text. Being able to send a quick reply from the Watch would be great. And if Apple offered a simple $99 communication band that allowed me to respond to texts and answer the phone, held a charge for days, and didn't have a bunch of features I don't want, I'd buy one. Just for skiing.

 

[apolloa]

Haha all the people on here sighing relief.

 

[Stella]

And how is that program going to work exactly?

Apple has an iPhone trade in program.

 

[69650]

They always have annual updates for new products so I don't believe a word of this story. They just don't want people to stop buying the current model because they know a new one is only a few weeks away.
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I really saddens me that Apple thinks someone would buy a new watch every year. They've updated the Thunderbolt display with variants without calling it Thunderbolt display 2, 3, 4, etc. Why can't they do the same for the Apple Watch.

That's how they make so much profit. You're perfectly happy with your Apple Watch until Version 2 launches and you want one even though you know you don't need it but can't resist because your friends have the new one, your colleagues at work have it. The ads make it look so much more desirable that the first version so you bite the bullet and buy it anyway.

Don't get me wrong as a consumer of all things Apple I would prefer a 2 year upgrade cycle on all their products so I could enjoy my purchase a bit longer without being tempted to upgrade.

 

[Karma*Police]

As an early adopter I'm happy with the watch, and couldn't care less if another version arrives this Spring. I will continue wearing my first gen as it suites me fine.

That's interesting. I would've thought early adopters would be the first to get gen 2 as well. I'm an early adopter and I can't wait to see what Apple does with gen 2.

 

[Keirasplace]

seeing how you drank the cool aid and went out and bought one how do you know what every consumer is doing. You dont have a clue. show me where you got that information that it is the reason others havent bought one. I know its not my reason why I didnt buy one. It has nothing to do with wait and see. It has to do with my phone already doing what 99% of what the watch can do and do it better.

Seeing how you bring NOTHING TO THE TABLE than insinuations and not refutations to what he said; your opinion can be dismissed. Reply with an actual argument next time or keep your diatribe to yourself.

 

[munakib]

Lol, some doofus spent 10g's - so i am not surprised.

 

[Keirasplace]

This is exactly the reason and logic I am following.

I got one for Xmas with my wife. I was a sceptic and even thought deep inside when I unwrapped it, how and why I would ever use this?

Fast forward three days, I loved so many things about it. I was going to keep it but knowing the new one is round the corner I will wait. I wish I could get it right now, but whether it's March or April I will wait. If a competitor comes out sooner they could lose me on price and availability maybe.

Personally, I loved a lot of the features but I'm just not sure on a few things:
-it was a little bit too laggy in some instances, so needs to be a touch quicker.
-no videos, just photos. Sorry, this one sucks.
-no gps so I need my phone for runs... Seriously???????????

What surprised me:
-really handy to use and see a message even when driving "at a glance"
-how stylish the stainless steel with leather black band was felt really good on.
-Battery got me 3 days+
-Haptic feedback felt great.
-UI was very clean well thought out and easy to navigate.

They are a lot of fun and quite handy but the first few items above need to change for me to part with $1000. Oh and my wife is in same situation.

You don't need GPS to run, ever heard of accelerometers. Good grief. They're actually more precise than the GPS once calibrated to your stride(s).
GPS in the best of cases, static, many satellite in view, +- 8 meters.
GPS is maybe needed if you go running cross-country, not in the city.

Video means battery drain? You really want a video killing your battery on a 1 inch screen?
Video would be one of the most useless thing ever on a watch, streaming video would be a massive battery killer.

Speed I'd give you that, especially on third party apps; OK for native system apps.

 

[Xiroteus]

THINNER!!!!

Yep, being serious as this will be the one device that NEEDS to be smaller.

 

[bbeagle]

I really saddens me that Apple thinks someone would buy a new watch every year. They've updated the Thunderbolt display with variants without calling it Thunderbolt display 2, 3, 4, etc. Why can't they do the same for the Apple Watch.

Just because Apple releases a new version of something every year doesn't mean people have to upgrade every year.

I owned an iPhone 1 - it took me 3 years to upgrade to an iPhone 4.
I owned an iPad 1 - my next one was the iPad Air (iPad 5).

This will be the same with my Apple Watch - I'm waiting until there is something significant, then I'll upgrade.

 

[Woodcrest64]

The second version has likely been in development 18 months before the last one came out so I don't really get you're argument. They don't start working on a new one when the first one is released. That's not how R&D works. Considering that it seems the watch hardware was ready in september 2014 and it's mostly the software that kept it back, waiting to released would be foolish since the hardware for the first gen by late 2016 would be more than 2 years old. This is clear when you look at the watch internals.

I agree with you. I wasn't very clear. I think there should be 18-24 months between product launches.

The R&D like you said is done continually and not right after one is released but if product launches are spaced our further that might give more time for R&D.

One option is to do what Apple has done with the (S) model iPhone releases. Have the same design but offer new software and internal hardware tweaks and leave the major design changes for every 2 years.

 

[Ghost31]

As an early adopter, I hope this is true

"I don't want new technology coming out because it would make me sad"

 

[Denzo]

seeing how you drank the cool aid and went out and bought one how do you know what every consumer is doing. You dont have a clue. show me where you got that information that it is the reason others havent bought one. I know its not my reason why I didnt buy one. It has nothing to do with wait and see. It has to do with my phone already doing what 99% of what the watch can do and do it better.

Personally I disagree with you also despite me wanting a Gen 2 as my first.

Wait and see is what happens with all new tech.
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I can't find the location of my phone with my phone when....my phone is missing - the ability to ping that alone in one swipe and press saves me at least a valuable hour a month.

I don't get the work out rings on my phone (and I don't carry it with me everywhere to track exercise either)

I can't get my heart rate with my phone.

Now technically I can use Siri to the turn the lights on/off, turn the TV on/off, open the blinds and set home automation scenes on my phone, however its a lot more convenient to do it on the watch by just raising my arm, and it is to check certain notifications and to do multiple things with your hands full. I mean you could argue that you can do them on the phone but then I could argue that you can do everything the iPad can do with the phone (which you can, literally, there isn't a single feature missing the sole only difference is screen size) but i'd have to agree the form factor is better on an iPad than a phone for certain things, which is the situation here.

So i'm afraid you're wrong really, there's actually more the AW can do that you can't on the iPhone than an iPad can do that you can't on an iPhone.

Only thing is iPad doesn't have the calculator (and maybe weather) app.

 

[Gudi]

I disagree with you on this. I think the Apple Watch will continue to sell if handled correctly. If Apple eliminates the stupid $10k+ versions and focuses just on the sport and watch versions I think they can succeed. The success is going to really come from the sport versions. If Apple keeps the prices low and makes a product cycle that is around 20-24 months and maintains a band selection that continues to work with future models they will have returning customers. However, you will be 100% correct if they continue to carry so many different models and want to update the watch yearly.

Wrong. The strategy with the Apple Watch is just fine and almost perfect; product cycles, price points and band selection don't need improvement. It's the whole category itself which may still fail entirely, because smartwatches are useless as mobile computers with their tiny screens, slow processors and dayfly battery life. The real problem is not how to sell them, but what are they good for?

Absolutely Nothing!

 

[chr1s60]

Wrong. The strategy with the Apple Watch is just fine and almost perfect; product cycles, price points and band selection don't need improvement. It's the whole category itself which may still fail entirely, because smartwatches are useless as mobile computers with their tiny screens, slow processors and dayfly battery life. The real problems is not how to sell them, but what are they good for?

Absolutely Nothing!

And the iPod was a more complicated Discman that had little or no use. And the iPad was just a big iPhone that wouldn't have much need. Guess your opinion has to be correct.

 

[Mums]

It really saddens me that someone would think that Apple releasing yearly updates to products means that Apple thinks people would buy a new version of any product every year.

Does it also sadden you that Apple has released a new iPhone every year, a new (9.7") iPad almost every year, a new MBP almost every year?

All this sadness is saddening.

 

[WilliamJake]

iPhone 6C + new macs isn't really much of an event however. Unless the macs are a complete redesign (like a new Macbook Pro generation)

Eh, it is to some people.

 

[vmistery]

I'd like to see it harmonised with the iPhone release date and offered on a plan together. That way you can upgrade it with your phone every 2 years and not have to put down so much money upfront.

 

[Nevaborn]

Well i guess that justify's my purchase just a bit more. I ended up getting a basically brand new AWS 42mm from BB when they were $100 off last week. They had a open box that literally looked like someone opened it and said wrong color and boxed it back up. Charger, or USB never removed from the box, or watch taken from the plastic. I ended up paying $256 for it from $399 originally.

PS: Anyone else out there that would actually want maybe say a 45mm version? I am a athletic muscular build. I am used to wearing larger Diving style watches. I think a 45mm version would be sweet. But just not sure enough that there is a LARGE market for that size.

I have big wrists too from years of lifting weights etc and I like the watch size itself at 42mm however I would love bigger straps. The Sport straps just about fit a fe MM more to allow me to get 1 or 2 more notches would go a long way as I know people who have even bigger wrists than me and they would struggle to get the watch on the last notch.

My only other wants are quicker for apps, better battery and more premium finish. The black sport I went for looks so much nicer in its dark matte finish that sort of shiners colours than the steel that is almost chrome. A brushed steel would of been gorgeous.

 

[ricci]

Without an Apple Watch 2 there will be NO March/April event!

What are they gonna introduce? An new 4" iPhone with outdated internals (rumors say A8), and a "catch up" iPad Air 3. Even if they have incredible MacBook Pro updates it won't save the event.

I know your speaking for yourself! As a Music producer our studio is budgeted for the Skylake MacPro as well as a personal MBP (Skylake) for myself as well as my peers! That's About $15,000 to start for the two! So, for use ( and Apple) its a delay ( Intel 2 years) we're hoping ends with the long over due upgrades! Professionals get excited with professional equipment that makes our life easier and makes us money ! (And that's to buy non essential items like Apple Watchs and iPads !!

 

[iZac]

New bands are a much better idea than new tech.

The profit margins on all of them are absolutely enormous. Apple are also encouraging users to buy multiple bands for different occasions or uses or fashion statements. They can keep churning out new styles and colours for a few years until they update the actual unit, and people will keep buying them.

In a way Apple is - or should be employing the razor/blade sales model with this product.

 

[The Game 161]

Good news

Bet they update it with the new iPad in october