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Apple Watch 2 Said to Feature FaceTime Camera, Expanded Wi-Fi Capabilities and New Models

JacquesleMac said:
Really ? That surprises me. I thought only top-end watches were still mechanical and assumed the quartz watch was ubiquitous.

Your point about the Rolex is true. I have one (and an Omega Seamaster, both of which were left to me) and they are too bulky for everyday wear. Plus the Seamaster only tells the correct time once every 24 hours.

Don’t we associate Apple technology with being slim and beautiful ? 1.25cm might be beautiful to some, but slim it ain’t.
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People don't really wear watches on the low end and the Swiss watch industry sells something like 30? 40? Billion dollars worth of watches annually, most of that is probably from mechanical.
Japanese big three watch groups (citizen, seiko, Casio), in 2010, were doing revenues of about 700m, 1.3b, 800m. So unless those numbers have grown significantly, it's not a huge chunk of the market.
 
SHNXX said:
People don't really wear watches on the low end and the Swiss watch industry sells something like 30? 40? Billion dollars worth of watches annually, most of that is probably from mechanical.
Japanese big three watch groups (citizen, seiko, Casio), in 2010, were doing revenues of about 700m, 1.3b, 800m. So unless those numbers have grown significantly, it's not a huge chunk of the market.
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I wouldn't say that's true. For everyone I know with a nice mechanical Swiss watch, there's probably at least a dozen who own quartz movement. I have a Burberry (essentially Fossil) and know a lot people with sub $800 Quartz watches.
 
Glad I actually chose to wait this time. Normally I'm an early adapter but chose to wait on this. Glad I did as when I went in to the store with a watch appointment I wasn't overly impressed as i was when watching all the vids they had on it.

Will get one but maybe the next incarnation?
 
evaporateddwarf said:
I wouldn't say that's true. For everyone I know with a nice mechanical Swiss watch, there's probably at least a dozen who own quartz movement. I have a Burberry (essentially Fossil) and know a lot people with sub $800 Quartz watches.
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Yeah it's just conjecture on my part.
It would be interesting to know the breakdown in terms of number of units sold and revenue.
 
ButteryScrollin said:
Is it too late to return my Apple Watch ;)
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haha! At least you got one that works.

#1 received four weeks ago: Faulty out of the box -
#1 returned, received #2 two weeks ago. Dead, wouldn't even power up. Wouldn't charge
#2 returned, #3 on its way, due tomorrow or Tuesday. I have been assured by some dude at Apple care Australia that he personally has turned the device on, paired it with his iPhone, then un-paired it.

I hope this isn't the future of apple.... Bring back steve jobs, let's start a kickstarter campaign to revive the dead, like the heads in the fluid on Futurama lol
 
StyxMaker said:
I have an Apple Watch and remain totally indifferent to a new version next year. A new Apple Watch will not, despite poster's misuse of the word, make mine 'obsolete'. Also I could not possibly care less if Apple fills in the price points between $1K and $10K, it will have no effect whatsoever on my life.
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So, out of interest, as you will not be buying the new model when it comes out.
Do you have any idea right now, how long you plan on sticking with your current model you are enjoying?
 
bbeagle said:
Why?

EVERY piece of technology is upgraded, and usually within a year or so.

Makes no sense why early adopters would think of this as bad news.

Bad News would be that the watch sold so bad that Apple decided to discontinue and not support the Apple Watch anymore. It's GOOD news for current owners that Apple will continue to develop for the Apple Watch.
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Agree with you 100%
The only real issue that causes upsets are costs and timeframes.

The more expensive the item and the shorter timeframe before it's replaced being the two key aspects.

Everyone should understand things move forward, but, we all have our own ideas of a amount of time we'd like to feel something we may have paid "a lot" for, is classed by the maker as their new product they are focussed on.

Generally we expect Apple to have a 1 to 2 year cycle.

Every year a small tweak, every second year a larger change / new case, shape, size etc.

This was suggested would be the case with the watch, though it was plain to see on these forums that a large amount of posters did not accept this would happen, and viewed the watch would be more like a real watch and have a much slower lifecycle, unlike other apple products.

Some even suggesting 5 or even 10 years between models!
 
This is why when I received my apple watch sport, I returned it for a full refund. I never even used it. Zero regrets.
 
There are people who go out and get a new iPhone every two years, but still complain about maybe having to do the same for a watch.

Amazing.
 
This is the main problem I have with the Apple Watch (or any other smart watch). Is, people just don’t upgrade their watches every other year or every few years come to mention it. Buying a watch is something you buy and you keep it until it breaks, which is usually years and years, it tends to be a long term purchase.

I think with a smart watch, it should be at least possible to replace the internals at a much reduced price when compared to buying the complete new watch.

This is even more so if you are one of the people who have spent the massive amount on the Apple Watch Edition.
 
Nuvi said:
Why? They are updating almost every single product at least once a year so why should Apple Watch be any different. Since Apple Watch is part of such a new product category I would imagine Apple is very eager to update it at least once a year. If you want to by a watch that can stand the test of times then smart watches in general are not the right products for you.
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Samsung superseded their fist galaxy watches in 6 months which is ridiculous. Watches historically haven't been replaced yearly or on the same 24 month cycle as phones. For smart watches, I don't see this attitude changing any time soon. Phones from the beginning have been on 24 month replacement cycles for various limitations, while watches have been around for centuries on much longer life cycles due to their simplicity. The complexity (/complications) may make smart watches change this attitude, but this should be disappointing.

If it turns out Apple releases a new watch yearly I suspect they'll discover a rapid slow down of purchases, the same they're now discovering with the iPad (closer to the lifecycle of a Ma). I would hope they'd add and expand the line, whether that be through bands or new shapes, and not replace the line (similar to how the iPad is currently being positioned). I'd be disappointed if they followed a similar path to that of Samsung.
 
Fatboy71 said:
This is the main problem I have with the Apple Watch (or any other smart watch). Is, people just don’t upgrade their watches every other year or every few years come to mention it. Buying a watch is something you buy and you keep it until it breaks, which is usually years and years, it tends to be a long term purchase.
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Agreed, but the Apple Watch isn’t like a normal watch. Buying a normal watch is mostly about aesthetics and sometimes about prestige (for most men it’s the only piece of jewellery they own, other than perhaps a wedding ring). It’s not about function: a cheap Casio tells the time as well as an Oyster Rolex. OK, you might have a stop-watch and calendar facilities, but that’s about it.

An Apple Watch OTOH is an extension of your iPhone, which is usually an extension of your Mac. You buy the Apple Watch more for its functionality than its appearance. New models will have increased functionality, hence the upgrade path.

So while I take your point about a normal (upscale) watch being a long-term purchase, I think you’d have to be very naive indeed to treat the Apple Watch as something your grandkids will be treasuring in thirty years’ time. I have three generations of iPods and three Nanos sitting unused in drawers. iPhones get passed onto my kids. I update because I value the technological advances successive iterations bring. Indeed I wouldn’t buy a Apple Watch if I didn’t think Apple were going to improve on its software and, eventually, its hardware.

When I do eventually buy an Apple Watch it will be in the full knowledge it will have a three year lifespan (maximum) before it is superceded and passed on to a family member. And even if I give it away rather than selling it, over my ownership it will have cost me (at most) £3 a week. That’s a price I’m prepared to pay.

Nuvi put all this more succinctly in an earlier post: 'If you want to buy a watch that can stand the test of time, then smart watches in general are not the right products for you.'
 
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I wonder what those oil tycoons will think who bought a gold Apple Watch?
Oh yeah that's right they earn more than $20k an hour. They can just buy a gold Apple Watch 2.
 
Seriously, is anyone REALLY surprised by this? If you got the Watchv1, good for you. You had to know it was NOT going to be the only version ever. You see similar comments any time people buy a product and then the next products specs are announced and they're "Oh, ****! No way! I got screwed!" No, you bought the product you wanted when it was available. If you wait, you'll always be waiting. But don't whine when the "new, improved and 'snappier" version comes out.

I got the first iPad and was pumped for the year it was out before iPad2 came along... My parents are still rocking the iPadv1... I've got a 2, a miniR and an Air from work. I only use the mini... But that's me. If it does what you want it to do and it does it now, be happy.

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sallenthornton said:
This is why when I received my apple watch sport, I returned it for a full refund. I never even used it. Zero regrets.
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YOLO. This makes no sense man. Lolz. I bought a Ferrari on the weekend but I thought a new one would come out next year so I didn't accept it and got my money back. Zero regrets here man.
 
Although I wouldn't use it much a facetime camera on the watch would be tits IMHO. The watch is 100% what I expected and I use it for 100% of what I expected to use it for...... I have yet to delve into the extent of the available apps but I'm sure in time I will. I'm totally satisfied with my $400 expenditure and my wife and I will be stepping up to the stainless on v2.0 and handing the sports models down to the kids. May even buy a SS and handmedown to the kids before v2.0...... we'll see.

penajmz said:
Hmmm, yearly refreshes.... For a watch... Ugh Apple!
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It would be stupid NOT to do it yearly at the speed tech advances. Pls explain the advantages of NOT updating it yearly?

Narcaz said:
Bad news for the early adopters.
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How so? I see people say things like this yet don't ever understand it.... I've been an early adopter for every iPhone and now the apple watch and never felt cheated in any way. I upgrade yearly so maybe that's why I don't feel that way but I enjoy the new product and then then improved and so on..... never feel any way it's bad news to early adopt.

gri said:
Hmmmm - my Omega Automatic I got from my dad is 50 years old - and still working (with an overhal here and there). Good to go for another 50 years and strangely doesn't feel out of date like the Apple watch will be - every year.
Granted, it only shows time and date, but isn't that the purpose of a watch? Maybe Apple should rename it into "personal infometer" or something instead of "watch"...
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If you don't "get it" then it's not for you..... good luck with your watch.
 
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