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EVERY piece of technology is upgraded, and usually within a year or so.

Makes no sense why early adopters would think of this as bad news.

Bad News would be that the watch sold so bad that Apple decided to discontinue and not support the Apple Watch anymore. It's GOOD news for current owners that Apple will continue to develop for the Apple Watch.
Not to mention this thing likely won't even be released until April 2016 at the earliest. Possibly Fall 2016 or as late as 2017. Either way, it's not like Apple Watch 2 is being released next month.
 
Those people don't have a watch now and can't enjoy it for the next year.

I would say early adopters are better off than those who wait.
Exactly. I'll probably sell my Watch a few weeks before the release of the second-gen for at least half of what I paid for it. Then I'll effectively get the new Watch at a discount, AND I would have had over a year of use of the first gen. Regardless, I made the decision to enjoy the smartwatch experience now because I can afford to. If you can't, fine, but don't judge others who can.
 
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I really could care less about a camera for FaceTime on the watch. I don't use FaceTime on my iPhone or iMac, why would I suddenly have the need to do so on my watch?

Nah, I'm quite happy with my 42mm SS generation 1 unit.
 
I find the idea of a FaceTime camera highly suspect....it would destroy the battery in 20-30 minutes, your arm would fall off, the rendering would overheat it, and nobody wants to see your nose hair. I'm not saying Apple wouldn't do it....but something sounds off about it
 
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FaceTime camera on a watch seems like it would be a little tedious; just tried holding my arm in "selfie" position and it's not something that is real comfortable for very long. Could be useful in a pinch, I suppose. But I'm hoping Apple has some better use in mind for it than FaceTime calls.
 
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You do realize that two months after the AW2 comes out, there'll be rumors on the AW3, right? It's the vicious cycle of electronics that I stepped on back in the days of the 6809 in my TRS-80 color computer, which had a paltry 16K, so I haaaad to upgrade it to 64K.

Most fun $50 upgrade ever! (Which actually made it, out of the box, 32K of user RAM. That's when I learned about memory maps, and the ROM took 16K, and the expansion ROM took another 14K, and left 2K for I/O Operations, but I digress...)
Oh of course, I was being slightly facetious there. But my point still stands that those who want the absolute latest and greatest and can afford to do so, will have their fun. Meanwhile individuals such as myself who just want something cool for less will get theirs. Everybody wins! :D
 
Common knowledge? Maybe in the Netherlands. We have early upgrades that happen every 12-18 months. Not to mention that most U.S. carriers have done away with contracts and have shifted to 0% financing, which encourages yearly upgrades. Maybe you shouldn't make such broad assumptions?

Since when is the US the only country on the planet? It is not even Apple's largest market anymore.

I'm not making broad assumptions. Apple's whole smartphone roll-out schedule is geared towards the common 24 month financing model. And sure maybe you can upgrade early, but that costs you. You either pay more for a 12 month period or pay a penalty for upgrading early. Whatever the structure of the contract, you pay for the iPhone. Of course carriers stimulate early upgrades because it makes them money.

Still, most people do not upgrade yearly because the phone does not degrade that fast both in terms of quality and performance and simply because for many people it is just plainly too expensive. You can do a poll even on this board and would find that the majority of people here follow the 24 month model.
 
I think it's true that often the gap between a gen 1 and gen 2 Apple product is vast, arguably greater than many of the subsequent ones that follow... the one exception I can think of is the difference between the original iPhone and the 3G, which was for all practical purposes nonexistent given the relative lack of 3G coverage at time of release and the fact that almost nothing else had changed between the two devices (other that the move from metal to plastic back, which was frankly a downgrade); 3GS was the true upgrade (and showed it by how long it remained a viable device). I think the big question for the Watch is whether gen 2 will resemble iPad 1 --> iPad 2 (massive leap forward), or be more on an "S" (iterative) evolution.

The actual watch aside, I would love to see the gen 1 Apple Watch bands remain viable for gen 2. I realize Apple have always taken advantage of changing form factors to boost accessory sales, but the bands are arguably in a different realm because of their price points range as well as advertised value. The link bands are almost beyond the accessory category in what they are & what they cost.
 
So the gen one is gonna be cheaper then???

Assume you mean generation two, and assume a quizzically irony to your post. Judging by Apple’s previous pricing policy on just about everything, it won’t be any cheaper, just better.

I think many of those who are whinging about the frequency of new iterations are probably more into the Apple Watch for fashion than technology: you’d have to be pretty dim to assume Apple won’t bring out new and better versions of everything on a regular basis. It’s how they keep making money.

My plea is to make the Watch SLIMMER. This is the single factor that stops me buying it. I don’t want what looks like a iPhone 3Gs strapped to my wrist. 10.5mm is a brick. It has to be (and will be) <7mm; as long as the battery can hold up 20 hours, I’ll be happy.

I’m resigned to waiting for the third generation (Apple won’t make v.2 very different – they don’t want to upset adopters), but I’ll lay money that in three years’ time the current watch will look absurdly bulky and ugly in comparison to the 2018 model. It will simply be iPod Touch, iPhone and iPad all over again...
 
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Assume you mean generation two, and assume a quizzically irony to your post. Judging by Apple’s previous pricing policy on just about everything, it won’t be any cheaper, just better.

I think many of those who are whinging about the frequency of new iterations are probably more into the Apple Watch for fashion than technology: you’d have to be pretty dim to assume Apple won’t bring out new and better versions of everything on a regular basis. It’s how they keep making money.

My plea is to make the Watch SLIMMER. This is the single factor that stops me buying it. I don’t want what looks like a iPhone 3Gs strapped to my wrist. 10.5mm is a brick. It has to be (an will be) <7mm; as long as the battery can hold up 20 hours, I’ll be happy.

I’m resigned to waiting for the third generation (Apple won’t make v.2 very different – they don’t want to upset adopters), but I’ll lay money that in three years’ time the current watch will look absurdly bulky and ugly in comparison to the 2018 model. It will simply be iPod Touch, iPhone and iPad all over again...

It's thinner already than most of my "real" watches. But see where some might prefer something slimmer.
 
Assume you mean generation two, and assume a quizzically irony to your post. Judging by Apple’s previous pricing policy on just about everything, it won’t be any cheaper, just better.

I think many of those who are whinging about the frequency of new iterations are probably more into the Apple Watch for fashion than technology: you’d have to be pretty dim to assume Apple won’t bring out new and better versions of everything on a regular basis. It’s how they keep making money.

My plea is to make the Watch SLIMMER. This is the single factor that stops me buying it. I don’t want what looks like a iPhone 3Gs strapped to my wrist. 10.5mm is a brick. It has to be (an will be) <7mm; as long as the battery can hold up 20 hours, I’ll be happy.

I’m resigned to waiting for the third generation (Apple won’t make v.2 very different – they don’t want to upset adopters), but I’ll lay money that in three years’ time the current watch will look absurdly bulky and ugly in comparison to the 2018 model. It will simply be iPod Touch, iPhone and iPad all over again...

Fine thin dress watches are normally 7-10mm thick so I think your expectations are a bit off.
The apple watch case design doesn't contour to taper near the wrist so that might be the problem.
 
wow. i'm actually pretty excited about a facetime camera. I've never used face time on the iPhone, but it's a perfect fit for the watch. Hopefully Android Wear will support Video Hangouts also.
 
Fine thin dress watches are normally 7-10mm thick so I think your expectations are a bit off.
The apple watch case design doesn't contour to taper near the wrist so that might be the problem.

I’ver just checked my Grus watch, the one I used to wear most often back in the days when I wore a watch. It’s not particularly slim, but it’s 6.5mm. To be fair, I have some that are thinner and few that are thicker, but nothing like the slab that is the current Apple Watch.

I reckon part of the problem is that most of us no longer wear watches. Hence to be enticed back we need something both aesthetically and technologically attractive. Alluring though Apple Watch is, the first generation model is very much the iPad 1. I think it’s going to get a lot, lot better and – for the price that’s being asked, and because not even its most vocal proponents would claim it’s a necessity – I’m prepared to wait a few more years until we’re at the Watch equivalent of the iPad Air.

Anyone agree ?
 
My plea is to make the Watch SLIMMER. This is the single factor that stops me buying it. I don’t want what looks like a iPhone 3Gs strapped to my wrist. 10.5mm is a brick.

Actually, it's almost 2mm thicker than that.

Unlike every other watch or smartwatch maker, Apple ignored the display glass and sensor pod in their advertised "case" dimensions.

Apple's own schematics show the true thickness of the entire watch as 12.46mm:

apple-watch-dimensions-schematic3.png


Blindly using Apple's advertised 10.5mm spec instead of checking it out, many websites knocked other smartwatches as being "thicker", when in reality they were not. For example, sites wrote that at 11.5mm, the Moto 360 was 1mm thicker, while it's really almost 1mm thinner.
 
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Actually, it's almost 2mm thicker than that.

Unlike every other watch or smartwatch maker, Apple ignored the display glass and sensor pod in their advertised "case" dimensions.

Apple's own schematics show the true thickness of the entire watch as 12.46mm:

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Blindly using Apple's advertised 10.5mm spec instead of checking it out, many websites knocked other smartwatches as being "thicker", when in reality they were not.
But in reality the competition looks nothing as good as the Apple Watch, not many people own 'smart' watches, but the Apple Watch users seem comfortable with the looks and functions. People wearing other ones are keen to hide them and feel embarrassed when asked about their watch.
 
I’ver just checked my Grus watch, the one I used to wear most often back in the days when I wore a watch. It’s not particularly slim, but it’s 6.5mm. To be fair, I have some that are thinner and few that are thicker, but nothing like the slab that is the current Apple Watch.

I reckon part of the problem is that most of us no longer wear watches. Hence to be enticed back we need something both aesthetically and technologically attractive. Alluring though Apple Watch is, the first generation model is very much the iPad 1. I think it’s going to get a lot, lot better and – for the price that’s being asked, and because not even its most vocal proponents would claim it’s a necessity – I’m prepared to wait a few more years until we’re at the Watch equivalent of the iPad Air.

Anyone agree ?

I suppose your watch has a Quartz movement.
Many popular men's watches these days (pre apple watch) are mechanical movement watches and they're usually a bit thicker.
Rolexes for example are mostly 12.5mm, right around the thickness that the apple watch is.

My dress watch (a Patek Philippe) is about 8mm thick and while it's nice to wear, I sometimes prefer the heft of thicker sport watches.

Some popular sport watches such as those from audemars piguet and Panerai are actually around 15mm, so I don't think apple watch case is all that thick to be honest.
It's right around average compared to mechanical watches.
 
But in reality the competition looks nothing as good as the Apple Watch, not many people own 'smart' watches, but the Apple Watch users seem comfortable with the looks and functions. People wearing other ones are keen to hide them and feel embarrassed when asked about their watch.

Doesn’t get round my point that the thing is too damned thick.
 
Many popular men's watches these days (pre apple watch) are mechanical movement watches.

Really ? That surprises me. I thought only top-end watches were still mechanical and assumed the quartz watch was ubiquitous.

Your point about the Rolex is true. I have one (and an Omega Seamaster, both of which were left to me) and they are too bulky for everyday wear. Plus the Seamaster only tells the correct time once every 24 hours.

Don’t we associate Apple technology with being slim and beautiful ? 1.25cm might be beautiful to some, but slim it ain’t.
 
Assume you mean generation two, and assume a quizzically irony to your post. Judging by Apple’s previous pricing policy on just about everything, it won’t be any cheaper, just better.

I think many of those who are whinging about the frequency of new iterations are probably more into the Apple Watch for fashion than technology: you’d have to be pretty dim to assume Apple won’t bring out new and better versions of everything on a regular basis. It’s how they keep making money.

My plea is to make the Watch SLIMMER. This is the single factor that stops me buying it. I don’t want what looks like a iPhone 3Gs strapped to my wrist. 10.5mm is a brick. It has to be (and will be) <7mm; as long as the battery can hold up 20 hours, I’ll be happy.

I’m resigned to waiting for the third generation (Apple won’t make v.2 very different – they don’t want to upset adopters), but I’ll lay money that in three years’ time the current watch will look absurdly bulky and ugly in comparison to the 2018 model. It will simply be iPod Touch, iPhone and iPad all over again...

As much as I want an A-watch, I'm still holding from buying one until all "issues" are taken care of.

Even if the gen one or two was cheaper? I will still wait a bit more. If I am dropping this much cash, I need s watch that can take the abuse. I am hard on my watches as I rarely take mine off. All my watches are metal cases/band.

Does the current model have apple pay? I wish apple would make an an app where I can leave my wallet at home and have all my stuff to include drivers' license in it and other IDs... Perhaps one day....
 
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