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Having a watch that works for more than a day at a time. Unreasonable, isn't it?

Not at all. But the Apple Watch is not merely a watch. It's a wireless communications device that extends the functionality of your iphone, and it has a clock app.

You don't think Apple would give it a longer battery life if they could? They can only do so much with +/- 1 cubic inch of space.
 
Honestly I really thought Apple were going to do this.
The strap is such a wasted space, it's crying out for the strap to be the battery, there is so much of it.

I suspect this will come in time as it's just a dead area that could be used so well.

The bracelet watches many were hoping for of course are able to consider using the whole of the device for the battery and electronics. Not just the box under the screen area.

But then it wouldn't be as personal. Some people prefer leather straps. Others prefer bangles, and other prefer metal links. Not all of them could incorporate batteries.
 
Battery life is not the biggest problem I see with the Apple Watch.

The biggest issue is the fact that, for most functions, it must be tethered to your iPhone to work. Whats the point of being able to use Maps, Messages, etc when you could just pull your phone out of your pocket and get a better experience on a bigger screen? It has no GPS chip so you can't even use it to track your hiking/running route like most GPS watches.

I agree. The presence or absence of stand-alone GPS was the likely make-or-break factor for me. I'm on the fence as to how much I'd use many of the features, but if this were a full replacement for my Garmin running watch, I'd probably be interested.

If the second gen has stand-alone GPS (and cellular would be nice too, but not as crucial for my purposes), I'll definitely consider that model.
 
I agree that many folks have unreasonable expectations for some kind of wearable watch...but you also should understand there are/were plenty of forum members/fanatics here that bashed Samsung, LG, Motorola for releasing smart watches with batteries that only last a day.

"Only a day" for some of those Android attempts means "8 to 12 hours." That's LESS than a day, and well worth bashing.

I will join everyone else in bashing Apple's failure too, if they are in that time range come release. But I predict otherwise, or Apple would have held off even longer. Two historical Apple patterns: a) UNDERstating real-world battery life (no Samsung-style rigged benchmarks) and b) canceling or delaying a product in the labs if something about it means it can only be bad with current tech.
 
I do not get all the consternation about this. Do you people never sleep? Do you not have a plug next to your bed? Would you sleep with your watch on? I wouldn't. Seems to me, you go to bed plug in your watch (and your phone) and ta-da wake up the next morning with a full on charged watch and phone.

Rinse and repeat..

What am I missing here. Is everyone on Macrumors only sleeping every 24 hours or something?

I have eyeglasses and sometimes I forget to take them off or I fall asleep while watching a movie in bed. If you forget to take off your watch to charge it you're better off keeping the watch at home. Phones are different because you can still use it while charging. It would be stupid to use a smartwatch while charging.
And what if you have to spend the night somewhere and you don't have a charger? You're screwed unless you keep a proprietary charger with you at all times.
 
I wonder how much a extra magnet charger is? That way you could have one in the car or at the office to charge.

Maybe just an adapter lightning -> magnet charger? Because usually you'll be able to find a lightning cable.
 
No kidding. I saw a comment in another thread saying "what happened to the flexible screen?!?!" People have their expectations and dreams sky high and then are disappointed when Apple doesn't invent a flying pony or something.

I don't know why people are so set on it lasting more than a day. I go to bed, I charge my iPhone, if I was going to buy an iWatch I'd do the same thing. o_O Not so difficult. Now, the worries about just what 'a day' actually means in RL, I understand.

The fear is that 'one day' will mean charging your Apple Watch once or twice to make it through the evening.

If the wearable can stay charged through work/and evening with average use (whatever that is) then most people will be fine.
 
Bet you it gets thinner before they increase the battery life on it.

They will probably do both. Remember, this has a custom SoC. Apple will probably optimize version 2 of the processor for maximum efficiency.
 
I do not get all the consternation about this. Do you people never sleep? Do you not have a plug next to your bed? Would you sleep with your watch on? I wouldn't. Seems to me, you go to bed plug in your watch (and your phone) and ta-da wake up the next morning with a full on charged watch and phone.

Rinse and repeat..

What am I missing here. Is everyone on Macrumors only sleeping every 24 hours or something?

Yeah, unfortunately it's all the people who want everything including the kitchen sink (and the product for free) -- and they love to complain.

I get that it I (and most people) would like something like this to last more than a day or 2, but let's be real folks... Unless there's a MAJOR breakthrough in battery (or processor, or display) technology this is the best that ANY company can do. Moto, LG, Apple, Samsung, etc.

Battery life (and processor and display) technology will get better over time. If 1 day doesn't cut it for you then just wait for the next version! Simple!

Shoot, I remember the last phone I had before I bought the first iPhone (it was a Samsung Blackjack using Windows mobile) -- Samsung included TWO batteries with the phone because one would only last about 5 to 6 hours before it died!
 
I feel like this product is not thought out.

With the iPhone, they gave you a clear feature set: phone, iPod, Internet communicator.

With the ipad: books, videos , great lean back experiencem(they had a sofa on the stage, remember?).

With this, they are still looking for that killer feature. For watch, buy a watch that lasts a few years on a single battery. For everything else you already have a phone in your pocket (which is mandatory), so what's the point?

The only advantage seems health and fitness. But I can't jog without my phone (for gps) so what's the point? I'd like it to track my sleep but I can't since I need to charge it.

They should have waited another year or two or three and introduce some form of kinetic charging, or at least the ability to replace the battery. Perhaps offer an option to charge via the replaceable wrist bands? SOMETHING. You can't sleep without the watch, it defeats an important purpose.

notice that the whole UI is built for a round device. Notice the icons, they are build around a mesh like a rounded watch. I think apple tried to do round and failed. The next gen would probably be a huge upgrade.
 
Expected. They can't do any better. Hell, even my pebble dies by around 11 PM (I do have a moving watch face though). So it's impressive this color display will last a full day. Maybe it's because it's only activated when you hold it up. Also, it can work offline, just some features won't be available.

What the hell are you doing with your pebble. I can get 3-4 days with heavy usage. I usually get 5 though.
 
Honestly I really thought Apple were going to do this.
The strap is such a wasted space, it's crying out for the strap to be the battery, there is so much of it.

I suspect this will come in time as it's just a dead area that could be used so well.

The bracelet watches many were hoping for of course are able to consider using the whole of the device for the battery and electronics. Not just the box under the screen area.

Why isn't the Moto Almost 360 strap a battery? That supposedly is a better designed watch than Apple watch.
 
The biggest issue I see is that, for most functions, it must be tethered to your iPhone to work. Whats the point of being able to use Maps, Messages, etc when you could just pull your phone out of your pocket

You just said it.

The watch's purpose is so that you can do those things - and in particular, respond to alerts - by just glancing at your wrist instead of rummaging through your pockets or purse to pull out your phone.

It's up to you whether that is worth $349 or not. From where I sit, for me, it is not. But opinions are like a** holes: everybody has one and they usually stink.
 
It's intriguing but I can't say I'm a fan of the appearance this time around. I look forward to what comes in the future, including the battery life.

I don't care for its appearance either.

I'd prefer something more like this:
 

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Just got to sleep already

What I'm not getting is why people are so jazzed about monitoring sleep cycles. Seems to me if you have issues with sleep cycles your problem might be due to when you GO to bed, and what you do leading up to it. And, in the real world, most people get up not necessarily at "the best time to awaken" but rather "the time that gives me enough time to eat, shower, etc and make it to work on schedule." Therefore, go back to my first point, focusing on what you do leading up to bedtime. Don't bring a device to bed with you (well, except for s3x toys of course) and don't stay up all night watching Conan.
 
Rushing a product to market with problems or holding off and getting it right is something that distinguishes the CEO's Tim Cook and Steve Jobs respectively.

Nothing is on sale. We don't even have a release date. No one claims it is finished and complete.

Do recall that Jobs revealed the original iphone 6 months before it was released. And IIRC the demo phone did not actually function properly. The order of the iphone keynote was dictated by what did and did not crash the phone.
 
What happened to THINK DIFFERENT?
beats, and now this...

And what's happened to Jony Ive. In the posted TV interview about the Apple Watch he looks like a short gnome whose taken his huge salary and spent it all on burgers. Plus, his head seems to be growing out of his chest. To top it off he's become inarticulate...sounds like he got hold of a stash of bad blow! A total 'Company Man' (...and we eat our own dog food!).
 
One day they may invent things which can catch sunlight or something ... like it is sunny, stuff keeps running / charing .. One of those ... Maybe Apple can invent one of those revolutionary solar things or something ...
 
The have bloated it to be useless. Who the hell wants to charge a freaking CLOCK (advanced, but still a clock) every damn day??
I would be more than happy if it could display mails, messages and calendar notices.
 
You just said it.

The watch's purpose is so that you can do those things - and in particular, respond to alerts - by just glancing at your wrist instead of rummaging through your pockets or purse to pull out your phone.

It's up to you whether that is worth $349 or not. From where I sit, for me, it is not. But opinions are like a** holes: everybody has one and they usually stink.

That is really it - basically paying for a premium remote control for your phone.

I wonder how the constant connection would affect the iPhone battery ...
 
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