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The first word that comes to my mind is...


Yeeesh!

Hats off to them releasing the product with those specs.
I wouldn't have gone to market without a min of 8 hours.
What is crazy, it should be much longer.

They gutted the health tech and still only get 5 hours???

Hurry up and release it to the sheep so you can get to work on the real watch, Apple Watch 2.0

Right... So, I guess you wouldn't have released the Iphone or Ipad which had what 10h of heavy use in them.... Good grief.
 
BTW, why are they waiting until after the daylight savings time switch to release it? Doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in my book. :rolleyes:

And yes, I know it's different in different parts of the world.
 
5 hours ? I recently got a fitbit charge hr that lasts 5 days between charges and constantly monitors heart rate using leds. Not changing for something 3 times the price and a tenth the battery life

I didn't realize the Fitbit is the same as the Apple Watch
 
The first word that comes to my mind is...


Yeeesh!

Hats off to them releasing the product with those specs.
I wouldn't have gone to market without a min of 8 hours.
What is crazy, it should be much longer.

They gutted the health tech and still only get 5 hours???

Hurry up and release it to the sheep so you can get to work on the real watch, Apple Watch 2.0

Almost no phone goes 8 hours with the screen on or under heavy usage. The Android wear watches don't even come close to 5 hours with heavy usage.
 
With Watch you are going to receive more notifications as compared to iPhone. I am not sure about battery life of watch, but battery consumption of iPhone will surely increase! This may heavily affect battery life 4s, 5, 5c - iPhones with small battery.

Blue tooth LE (not the original blue tooth) is a very low battery user. Later versions can even get a pretty decent throughput at very low power. Notifications are not sent all the time and they are tiny bits of info. The watch is very close, reducing power drain too.

The power drain of your notifications should be negligible.
 
I'm not surprised. it took Apple until the iPhone 6 Plus to upgrade the battery to a decent 2,915 mAh which still is horrible compared to the 3,200mAh on the Galaxy Note 4 and 3,000mAh on LG G3...etc. Android wear smartwatches come with 300-400 mAh and last up to 2-3 days depending on usage. My ASUS Zenwatch lasts 3 days. My Michael Bastian Cronowing smartwatch lasts up a week and a half long of battery life. 5 hours of battery life on heavy usage is what 80% of users will using. With the newly announced LG Watch Urbane with 300 mAh and Huawei Watch with 400 mAh, they will truly outshine Apple watch as Android smartphones have performed circles on iPhones since 2010 and will continue to do so unless Apple wakes up and actually innovates.

You forgot the /sarcasm.
 
I've got my camping gear and my money ready! Bring it on! :D:apple:

Too bad it won't last the camping trip!

:p

In all seriousness, I thought about camping.

I guess I'd have to take a battery bank with me, unless this can last days with just the time function on.
 
It truly is baffling and mind blowing how ignorant and naive people are when it comes the apple watch. I think the most important thing Apple needs to do Monday is to convey the Watch's specs and features as clearly as possible for all of the, er, slow people to comprehend it.
 
It truly is baffling and mind blowing how ignorant and naive people are when it comes the apple watch. I think the most important thing Apple needs to do Monday is to convey the Watch's specs and features as clearly as possible for all of the, er, slow people to comprehend it.

Care to elaborate?
 
5 hours ? I recently got a fitbit charge hr that lasts 5 days between charges and constantly monitors heart rate using leds. Not changing for something 3 times the price and a tenth the battery life

Apple and oranges. Fitbit doesn't have a color screen or WiFi or have constant two way communication with a phone. It also doesn't accurately measure HR based on my own experience -- about 10% off compared to a chest strap during the same period.

For $149 you get a fixed use activity band with clock, SMS alerts, HR monitor. For $349 you are getting a watch with color touch screen and multifunction task capability including two way SMS and full notifications and advanced activity monitoring and all the expansion 3rd party apps provide. It's like comparing the gas milage on a moped to a car.

Nothing agains the Fitbit Charge HR. It's a good activity band. But these are very different products.
 
I'm not saying this to be sarcastic, I genuinely want to know. What apps are they advertising that allows you to be an informant? Other than maybe the doodles feature where you can send drawings, the apps they offer on their site seem to be for personal use and information. They even mention getting out your phone to respond to emails.

It's not as much about the specific apps but about Apple's want for app devs to develop apps for the watch. They obviously want people to use the watch for more than just small bits of information or else they wouldn't have given devs the option to do more with it.

They would have stuck with simple notifications that users will have to pull out their phones to interact with. And what would be the point of that when there are already products on the market that do the same thing, but with better battery life?

It just seems like there's a lot of goalpost moving going on here.

People were ecstatic when Apple was coming out with a watch because of its potential and all it will be able to do, and how it will have more apps and better features than other smartwatches on the market. But now that news is coming out that battery life won't be so great, now it's become all about being frugal with the device usage and only using it for simple tasks and notifications, and handing off bigger tasks to the iPhone.

I don't get it.
 
Apple and oranges. Fitbit doesn't have a color screen or WiFi or have constant two way communication with a phone. It also doesn't accurately measure HR based on my own experience -- about 10% off compared to a chest strap during the same period.
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Curious about the FitBit heart rate monitoring

you say it's off about 10%, but under stressful excercise is this the same? is it an average, just trying to get an idea of accuract.

I've been debating getting a smartwatch for monitoring my heart rate while I play hockey and the wrist based solution is really my only choice. But if it's wildly inaccurate, that really limits me.
 
Alright, look everyone.

I'm a fan of most Apple products. I own an iPhone 6 and a MacBook Pro and am very happy with both devices.

But I honestly cannot comprehend spending $350 on a device that only allows 5 hours of heavy usage per day without a recharge. Even if that figure eventually gets better with daily usage, and a few weeks of charging and discharging, as batteries tend to do, it still doesn't look like it will get me through a full day.

And say what you will about people who choose to use their devices more often than others, but as a tech professional, I'm constantly getting text messages and emails. I'd have to say that in the course of a 10 hour work day, I could easily spend 5 hours total using my watch in a heavy usage manner.

That doesn't mean I have no life, or that there's something wrong with me. It just means I'm a busy guy, and I'm probably the kind of person who would use the watch a lot and deplete the battery.

I get that Apple is going for a premium smartwatch with a great screen and all these features, but if I have to keep worrying about being close to a charger all the time, it's not going to be worth it for me personally, and I'll probably wait for the second gen of Apple watches.

Thanks for sharing? Don't buy, Apple and the people here don't care. Might want to wait until it is released to pass judgement.
 
5 hours ? I recently got a fitbit charge hr that lasts 5 days between charges and constantly monitors heart rate using leds. Not changing for something 3 times the price and a tenth the battery life

Monitoring the heart rate is not heavy usage at all unless your monitoring it by looking at the screen of your watch all day...

I'd expect that a very low processor like the M8 in the Iphone 6 will take care to gather all the sensor data and only wake up the screen/main cpu under some defined circumstances to tell you if something your looking for happened. You can then review whatever data you feel like.

Your comparing a fitbit to this watch. Is that serious?
 
Alright, look everyone.

I'm a fan of most Apple products. I own an iPhone 6 and a MacBook Pro and am very happy with both devices.

But I honestly cannot comprehend spending $350 on a device that only allows 5 hours of heavy usage per day without a recharge. Even if that figure eventually gets better with daily usage, and a few weeks of charging and discharging, as batteries tend to do, it still doesn't look like it will get me through a full day.

And say what you will about people who choose to use their devices more often than others, but as a tech professional, I'm constantly getting text messages and emails. I'd have to say that in the course of a 10 hour work day, I could easily spend 5 hours total using my watch in a heavy usage manner.

That doesn't mean I have no life, or that there's something wrong with me. It just means I'm a busy guy, and I'm probably the kind of person who would use the watch a lot and deplete the battery.

I get that Apple is going for a premium smartwatch with a great screen and all these features, but if I have to keep worrying about being close to a charger all the time, it's not going to be worth it for me personally, and I'll probably wait for the second gen of Apple watches.

MacBooks don't even last much past 6 hours with heavy usage. The Apple watch will be doing a lot less.

It's not like you'll be browsing the web and watching movies on the watch. Its battery life is about as good as you could expect from the size, its utility, and the current battery technology.

So doing normal day to day tasks will amount to charging it once a day, same as every other mobile device in your home.
 
Hey, Apple is the one telling us how awesome the device will be to use with all of the applications that will be available for it. They demonstrated a device with tons of apps.

So now you're saying Apple doesn't want us using the watch as intended?

Justify it all you want, 5 hours of heavy usage is not good. Especially with other options out there that will easily last the whole day with heavy usage.

Apple specifically says interactions with the watch should be considered in seconds not minutes. So your definition of "as intended" isn't Apple's.
 
Too bad it won't last the camping trip!

:p

In all seriousness, I thought about camping.

I guess I'd have to take a battery bank with me, unless this can last days with just the time function on.

If you use it moderately, I'm expecting the big watch to last 2 days.

BTW, it is camping, maybe you could shut down the phone for a little while ;-).

There's so little power in the watch cells, that even a small external battery should give you a few cycles of charging.
 
I'd expect that a very low processor like the M8 in the Iphone 6 will take care to gather all the sensor data and only wake up the screen/main cpu under some defined circumstances to tell you if something your looking for happened. You can then review whatever data you feel like.

You'd be right about the M8 equivalent, but its called the S1.;)
 
A watch that lasts you all day is the reason you won't be buying one? How's this any different from the iPhone (or any iDevice for that matter)?

This is the problem with all iDevices, you all seems to be happy with charging them every night.

When did it suddenly become environmentally friendly to charge things every day? They should be lasting 4 or 5 days on a single charge.
 
Well, the expectations were crap to begin with, so this is nothing to be super excited about. lol. I'm just glad I don't want one and never did, because it seems pretty underwhelming, in general. Nothing about it says, "I want to have this", let alone, "I NEED to have this."

Well if I get this watch I don't plan on 5 hours of heavy use. I don't even do that with my iPhone other than when I'm listening to music. So yeah I think people are willfully being obtuse throwing around this 5 hour battery life claim.
 
If you use it moderately, I'm expecting the big watch to last 2 days.

BTW, it is camping, maybe you could shut down the phone for a little while ;-).

There's so little power in the watch cells, that even a small external battery should give you a few cycles of charging.

That's kind of my point.

I don't care if my phone runs out of juice when I'm camping. I do care if my watch can't tell the time. :)

Or maybe I should be one with nature and tell the time by the sun and star alignment. :p
 
This is the problem with all iDevices, you all seems to be happy with charging them every night.

When did it suddenly become environmentally friendly to charge things every day? They should be lasting 4 or 5 days on a single charge.

WOW.

http://lifehacker.com/5948075/how-m...s-in-a-year-and-what-it-means-for-your-budget

These numbers are over 2 years old.

I don't think you understand energy usage very well. Charging amounts don't matter, just the total energy consumed, which in minuscule even compared to an incandescent lightbulb.
 
This is the problem with all iDevices, you all seems to be happy with charging them every night.

When did it suddenly become environmentally friendly to charge things every day? They should be lasting 4 or 5 days on a single charge.


Agree.
Do you think apple cares about the environment? If they would care, then a device or OS would need to be changed every 5 years not every year. This is the new apple. Fast burning and fast dying.
 
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