So no new real features in the Apple Watch series for at least 5 years. Shame but good for my wallet then.
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Apple Watch Blood Glucose Monitoring Likely Still 'Three to Seven Years' Away
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Blood pressure, blood glucose, an accurate blood oxygen measurement, breathing frequency, a functional ski workout that is more than a toy gimmick, an overhaul of the ring system that is useless to anyone doing sport a bit more intensively, etc..
I can pull more if I scratch deeper.
All sound like great additions! I hope we get some (or all) of them eventually. For what it's worth though, I assume it will always say it isn't a medical device and to consult a doctor if feeling ill. No matter how accurate the measurements may get, they will cover their butts forever.
The majority of people do not need monitoring during sports. I don’t think Apple is targeting 100% of the people 100% of the time, but it’s not like Apple‘s solution, whatever that is, wont improve over time.
What do you think all those data should be good for? Blood oxygen -> sports (Apple Fitness). Glucose data -> diabetic treatment / sports (Apple Fitness).
Like the blood oxygen feature is useless at the moment the glucose feature will be in the future.
From my point of view, Tim started lots of highly expensive and risky projects with little or no output. Something like Apple Car, Apple VR/AR (imminent desaster), blood oxygen (basically failed) & glucose (doomed to fail).
When ist comes to connectivity, Apple is falling behind. A cloud strategy is not visible at Apple and with the miss of AI, Tim should finally step back. He is not able to innovate.
Simply put: go check out k’watch. This exists and is currently in FDA trials. This will exist soon, but it’ll be even cooler when it’s in my Apple watch. I suspect Apple will put on language about how it’s not good enough, like with their other health sensors, but getting this tech out there will be a total game changer.
99% of people would think that is an apple watch when they see it. I love how they made a list of the detailed work going into the design when all they really did is say "make it look like an Apple Watch"
I'm looking forward to the Apple Watch squeezing my arm like those machines do at the doctor's office.
I bought the Withings BPM Connect and tried it as soon as it arrived, probably did it wrong. It was squeezing so much that I thought it was going to cause damage to my arm. I hit the emergency quit button on it and I never tried it again. I remember how its supposed to squeeze from professionals doing it so unless I did something wrong, that product is dangerous.I'm looking forward to the Apple Watch squeezing my arm like those machines do at the doctor's office.
K'watch isn't anything more than a prototype at this point and it certainly isn't in FDA trials, it had 1 clinical study (not a clinical trial, because it had no control group) which really is a first step of many.
Also that first test wasn't very promising for anything more than glucose trends (which is useless for actual diabetic patients). And it still uses a patch (which you have to change weekly) and a needle (albeit micro-needles in this concept).
So basically incomparible to what Apple is trying which is non-invasive blood glucose monitoring. The non-invasive part is the game changer a slightly better patch/needle system isn't.
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Basically means they got a promising concept, that will now go through study/trial phases, which take long time.
hundreds, with the biggest ones (I believe by Johnson and Princeton) having 100.000s of participants. Also FDA class-3 approved.
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As someone who uses a real time monitoring system (Abbott Libre2); there are a lot of comments here that are pretty much completely wrong when it comes to Diabetes (type2). I was diagnosed during the pandemic and happy to say I am winning big (diet and exercise --- duh!). Real time systems DO in fact let you know what type of foods spike your glucose more than others; rigorous exercise also gives a spike. Now it usually takes 1-2 hours before you get anything and you need to be diligent about taking the readings (unless you do something crazy like down skittles). It is correct that the real time systems are not as accurate as the strip readers. The Libre2 system cost varies based on insurance here in the US, my old insurance paid about half, new insurance not so much. The sensors are about the size of 2 quarters stacked and each one lasts 14 days. When you refill you get 2 sensors and right now my cost is around $80 per refill. You can either use your phone or a dedicated reader for tracking. I use a dedicated reader right now.
If Apple some how manages to actually get this to work it will be amazing. Although I can say that the current system is ok and it does not hurt at all putting them on, in fact it hurts worse pulling them off. I put them on my arms and swap arms every time.
Abbott has a new Libre3 that is supposedly the size of 2 pennies stacked. Not sure if I will upgrade or not.
For anyone suffering from this; walk and walk some more. I started out doing around 1 mile and now I am at the point where I can easily walk 6-7 miles. But I have added some jogging into the mix now also, so now I usually jog a couple of miles then walk the rest. Diet is also key, but I would say mostly I just cut out chips, sweets and beer. Every now and then I will have some sweets and drink beer, but hardly ever. It is more about balance -- Protein/Carbs/Health Fats.
It has been very interesting and it can be controlled if you follow what your Endocrinologist says to do. The exercise part will hurt like hell at first, but if you keep at it, you will be amazed at what just walking can do.
I wish I could have been on the trail for this. Oh well. If this ever does come to market; more than likely I would do both so I could compare the results.
The finger prick strip reader compared to the real time system can vary by +/- 20 mg/dL, which is a fair amount of difference. One thing I have noticed though is when the real time system says my level is low, it is wrong almost 90% of the time. I discovered this by doing the finger pricks every time a low alarm goes off. The real time sensor also seems to hate it when you have some weight on it lying sideways and such. I've also been out walking in the winter and the sensor has been too cold to take a reading. 🤣
Diabetes is a pain; but thankfully I was very diligent about turning it around; was off insulin very fast, was on Trulicity for a while, but right now all I am doing is a Metformin pill once 1 day. I would say the pain of exercise was totally worth it to get off insulin and Trulicity. But thankfully my pancreas was still generating insulin. I know not everyone is as lucky. God speed to everyone who is dealing with it.
If Apple some how manages to actually get this to work it will be amazing. Although I can say that the current system is ok and it does not hurt at all putting them on, in fact it hurts worse pulling them off. I put them on my arms and swap arms every time.
Abbott has a new Libre3 that is supposedly the size of 2 pennies stacked. Not sure if I will upgrade or not.
For anyone suffering from this; walk and walk some more. I started out doing around 1 mile and now I am at the point where I can easily walk 6-7 miles. But I have added some jogging into the mix now also, so now I usually jog a couple of miles then walk the rest. Diet is also key, but I would say mostly I just cut out chips, sweets and beer. Every now and then I will have some sweets and drink beer, but hardly ever. It is more about balance -- Protein/Carbs/Health Fats.
It has been very interesting and it can be controlled if you follow what your Endocrinologist says to do. The exercise part will hurt like hell at first, but if you keep at it, you will be amazed at what just walking can do.
I wish I could have been on the trail for this. Oh well. If this ever does come to market; more than likely I would do both so I could compare the results.
The finger prick strip reader compared to the real time system can vary by +/- 20 mg/dL, which is a fair amount of difference. One thing I have noticed though is when the real time system says my level is low, it is wrong almost 90% of the time. I discovered this by doing the finger pricks every time a low alarm goes off. The real time sensor also seems to hate it when you have some weight on it lying sideways and such. I've also been out walking in the winter and the sensor has been too cold to take a reading. 🤣
Diabetes is a pain; but thankfully I was very diligent about turning it around; was off insulin very fast, was on Trulicity for a while, but right now all I am doing is a Metformin pill once 1 day. I would say the pain of exercise was totally worth it to get off insulin and Trulicity. But thankfully my pancreas was still generating insulin. I know not everyone is as lucky. God speed to everyone who is dealing with it.
@RalfTheDog People don’t understand how INSANE this tech would be. Blood glucose monitoring is one of the most important health tracking you can have. Keeping blood glucose low extends life, slows down (even reverses) aging, increase athletic performance, fights cancer, etc.