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Sliced bread changed life for someone too. That doesn't prove anything.

I'm not sure what your point is supposed to be? That I don't like my watch when I said I do?? i couldn't really care less what the sales are to be honest, i'm not sure 1. why other people do 2. even more bizarrely why people have this huge urge for something they don't personally want to own to fail?!
 
Almost every comment here is hastily written forum entertainment, and that includes my own! None are backed up by good investigative journalism or hard facts. If you have any brains at all, take it all with a giant shaker of salt. The watch looks good by all accounts, tells time, delivers notifications, allows purchases at several locations in the easiest manner I have ever used, and can get you on an airplane without paper. Lastly if you are interested in how often you move, or stand, there is that too.
 
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Just about everyone who wears a watch, and has an iPhone will ultimately buy an Apple Watch -- just not at current prices. Pretty simple.
 
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Let's check those numbers again when Christmas rolls around.

We can't check numbers, Apple won't provide them and everything else is conjecture. Although Apple isn't normally one to hide it's numbers when products are run-away successes (funny how they like to promote their stock price).

But, on the other side, the game isn't over. I wouldn't be surprised if the Apple Watch growers into a very successful product. It's just going to take some time and innovation. But Apple has both.
 
The Apple Watch has outsold every other smart watch ever made COMBINED... and it's still outselling every other one COMBINED every week.... but it's still a 'fail'... okay *sigh*

I love how a 'fail' in the Apple universe means that Apple's newest product hasn't broken iPhone records.

Nope.

Fail means they didn't reach their projected numbers for investors.
 
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Sorry, in all the hype surrounding the launch I never realized Apple said they were going to hide the sales results of the watch. Interesting that they were back-pedalling before they even launched.
No backpedaling. Simply a strategic decision. Apple Watch will probably have one of the top 2 or 3 first year tech product launches of all time.
 
The watch suffer from the same thing that the Atari Jaguar CD did. You had a CD expansion for a console that barely anyone owned and it was privce as much as the original console... Why didn't they just sell a stand alone product instead of an expansion that barely anyone would use.

The same is true with the watch. It's an iPhone expansion that cost the same if not more than the iPhone. Why not sell a stand alone product instead. The watch was released a bit too soon as if to try to show the world that they can still be innovative without SJ at the helm.
 
Why am I not surprised that people do not want a device that needs a phone to work and connects via bluetooth?

Personally, I would not want to pay for an additional wireless data plan for a watch. Nor, would I want to use a watch as my regular phone.

The way it works now makes a lot of sense for my usage.
 
So 2.8m in US alone in 2 months, not counting the other countries?

Terrible numbers!
(for all the other players)

Apple sold 6 million iPhone1's over five quarters. So aWatch is doing better than that.
iPhone was ALSO a SLOW burner (something people seem to forget). First version of the OS didn't even have cut/copy/paste for god's sake. And HW upgrades were slow --- 3G only gave us faster cellular, same slow CPU, and the big jump in the 3GS CPU was from only from horribly slow to slow.
It was only with the incredible iPhone4 (retina and A4) that Apple really hit it out of the park and everything came together.

Point is, I expect watch is on the same trajectory. Personally I love mine, but I am also aware of how painfully slow it is and how so much of the hardware needs to be improved. (In my case I want the heart beat detection to be a lot more robust, I want a much stronger buzzing [not the finger haptics but the wrist haptics], and I want a much louder, higher quality speaker.) Some of this will be improved in SW; much will, like the iPhone, come in time as people within Apple having used the device for some time, fix its most glaring flaws.

People have become unrealistic about how long anything takes. It simply takes TIME to iterate and improve a product. Like I said --- compare iPhone1 and iPhone4 --- night and day --- 2007 and 2010. I expect even aWatch 2016 and aWatch2017 will still have conspicuous limitations, since much of their design (like the SoC) is probably already underway and can't be changed much. But further out, say 2018, look out.
It's reasonable to say that aWatch does not meet your needs today (as long as you've given it an honest lookover); it's a lot less reasonable to claim that therefore it cannot and will not improve.
 
Because you usually compare how one company's product is doing vs. competition.

You don't just compare numbers in a vacuum.

Lookie here - I can show you a graph of snow blower sales per month - OMG! The last 3 months Honda snow blowers sales have fallen off a cliff! Honda is in trouble!

Doesn't mean much unless you compare to competitors, right?


First, if you think Apple entered this category to marginally outsell Pebble or any other competitor I think you're wrong. Success for Apple is magnitudes higher than that (just as the level of investment it made in developing the Watch is likely magnitudes higher than that of its competitors).

Second, competitive benchmarking really only works in mature markets where category sales are already significant. When you launch in under-developed categories (like smart watches) your benchmark should be sales targets based on ROI (and I honestly have no idea what Apple's costs in developing this product were); and the minimum level of share required to generate momentum.

P.S. Do you really think the Apple Watch is a seasonal product, or was your snow blower comparison just being silly?
 
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The only 2 drawbacks i see it for my self not going for it right away.

1. Cost, i rarely spent more than 2-3k indian rupees for a watch, mostly around 10 US dollar, i wore 4-5 watches in my lifetime, the last watch cost about Rupees 300 (thats 12$ at that time) and that too abandoned it after i started using mobile phone 12 years back
2. Charging almost every day, i already have enough headache charging my phone my iPad, my magic mouse and keyboard batteries and my PC remote control...unless they come out with some charging mat where i can just dump my gadgets for overnight charging.

But its a great product which is in very early stage. will buy the used one if someone is selling.
 
shame as this is


im in the same boat... the last batch of mac have been serviced a lot due to the poor quality (mac used to be built well thats why they cost more than most pc's but now they are just a fashion accessory for most), I've got many macs here but with the current poor offerings i think we will be switching back to windows. i can get a much higher spec with a better build quality from those and i won't need to pay the extra $800+ for the light up apple on the back. also now apple have dropped all their "pro products" we have no reason to stay with them. i guess if its not an iPhone they don't care anymore... i can't wait for another company to make a i-phone killer, maybe then they will realize they should have looked after there loyal customers.
My MacBook early 2008 is literally falling apart compared to my recent Macs. As a loyal customer of Apple, I feel as if Steve jobs screwed me over sometimes due to my terrible build quality history with his Apple. I would have left if he actually considered killing the Mac Pro like articles said he was thinking about.
 
This thread is awfully doom and gloom for something that hasn't been out that long and hasn't even seen a second gen yet. Time will tell, and more than a few months. It could go either way, imo.
 
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So many Apple diehards defended this product when it came out...

The watch is obviously missing some key features... useful health sensors, wireless charing, batterylife... but has potential. I don't think SJ would have launched a product like this though. Steve would have held it back till it was perfect or pushed his people till it was what he envisioned. I still think it should support android.

Tim Cook will still be considered to be a prince though and he will do more speeches, more public appearances, and ride Apple's past glory for many more years to come.

But look in the bright side guys... second generation will probably have more colours! Can't innovate anymore, my ass!
 
Nope.

Fail means they didn't reach their projected numbers for investors.

APPLE didn't have any projected watch numbers, nor did they tell investors any numbers.

It's only ANALYSTS who are making up numbers. Apple does not have to meet analyst's made up numbers to avoid failing. Apple simply has to create a product that makes money. Analysts are always wrong about the iPhone - is that a fail too?
 
Without at least 48 hours battery life, this is a non-starter for me.

i get about 36-40h out of mine (42mm sports model). unless you go on longer trips, i even prefer charging it everyday - so i don't forget. a battery life of 2-4 weeks, that would be different.

10.000-20.000 every day only in the U.S. - sounds like a well selling product to me.
 
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First true new product category after SJ. Clearly it´s not Apple. Is it terrible? No. But it´s not iPhone/iPod/iPad class product.

They seem to lack focus again, unfortunately. Only time will tell how this plays out, but I´m seeing too much quality issues with software and lack of brilliance in new products. iPhone will dominate in many years to come, and Apple will as a result be as profitable as ever. But they have clearly lost something very very important and without it the long-term future might not be as bright as seen with this Apple Watch launch.

Where do you go from here? Watches were the next logical step, and obviously no one really cares about them yet. Not Apple's fault, they made the best smart watch.

iPhones were kind of the end game in computers IMO. A computer that fits in your pocket.
 
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I love my 42mm SS!

Hadn't worn a watch in years......

nice round up of your experience. I think you are right it will get better in the future so there is hope.... Maybe in a couple of generations I'll get an Apple Watch if I haven't switched to Android.
 
If you think Apple entered the category to marginally outsell Pebble I think you're wrong. Success for Apple is magnitudes higher than that. If Apple has been reduced to being slightly better than existing weak efforts, then I'm very sad. And, btw, as an investor I'm sure glad you're not CEO.

There is a difference between being a 'fail' and a 'leading competitor'.

Not everything Apple does has to be the most successful thing in the world right away. Apple entered a market that they weren't in, and took the lead within a few months. Doesn't seem like a 'fail' to me. Now that Apple has a strong foothold in the smart watch market, #1 by the way, they now can improve their standing.

Did Apple quit in month 3 of the iPhone when it didn't blow all other smart phone sales out of the water? Was the iPhone a major fail too?
 
iPhones were kind of the end game in computers IMO. A computer that fits in your pocket.

Not even close. When the computer becomes a PART of you, and I don't have to carry around a chunk of metal and plastic, THEN it's the end game.

When the phone can be worn on your wrist, like a watch, and uses glasses, like the Google Gear, to view information, so that you're not carrying anything, and it 'feels' a part of you, then it's getting closer to the end game. Chips in your hand, retinal implants, closer.

Of course, none of these technologies are anywhere near where they'll be in 20 years. Just looking at an Apple Watch and a Google Gear from 2015 and laughing shows no imagination. This is where it's starting, and it will be so much better in the future.

People in 20 years will laugh at how people in 2015 used to carry hunks of plastic and metal in their pockets, and had to charge them all the time. And bring them to their head to talk, and touch them to make them do things, and to clean them, and worry about them breaking.... and so on. Think like someone in 2035.
 
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