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Apple's entire 1st Generation iPod sales hovered around 200,000 units.
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Apple Watch Demand Slides Significantly in June as Launch Momentum Wanes
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To give perspective...
Apple's entire 1st Generation iPod sales hovered around 200,000 units.
Just offering my $0.02 which I'm sure no one really cares about, but I'd be much more interested in an iDevice the size of the current iPod nano that offers functionality of an iPod and the watch.
I realize you could have the 9 million plus sensors that monitor every single vital sign. But I don't care for those.
An iPod nano sized device should be good for two days worth of battery. But it is small enough to be able to fit in just about every pocket. You could even go so far as to add a clip to it if you wanted.
It would also have the benefit of being able to use the lightening connector which means you don't have to have this special stand.
I realize you could have the 9 million plus sensors that monitor every single vital sign. But I don't care for those.
An iPod nano sized device should be good for two days worth of battery. But it is small enough to be able to fit in just about every pocket. You could even go so far as to add a clip to it if you wanted.
It would also have the benefit of being able to use the lightening connector which means you don't have to have this special stand.
Couldn't agree more! Wearables are a gimmick. Long term they might gain traction but a lot of additional sensors are needed before they are anything beyond a geeky novelty.
I am a watch collector and for me watches are timeless. Since Apple Watch does not satisfy the "timeless" spec, I won't spend a dime getting this as it will always bring me the "need" to buy the next gen Apple Watch.
This is not a failed product category. Apple will sell tons of these thing, and it will be a convenient remote control for the iPhone, along with the health sensors. But not at $400, or even half that. Very limited market at the price range. Now bundle it with iPhones for $99 more...
2.5 million users (primarily U.S.) have opted to allow Slice to monitor their email accounts. Slice gets these numbers by analyzing the receipts that are emailed to them.
We may not know exact numbers, but lets face it - macrumors is made up of members who are more into tech than most people, and a lot more into Apple than most people, and theres an unusally large chunk of EVEN THESE PEOPLE who are negative about the A-watch. I've not seen an Apple product this disliked by this many on this site since 2003, when I became a member. If anything, because these are mostly Apple fans, this is especially damming.
We on this site are the kind of people that will evangalize Apple products, and it's not happening for the A-watch.
Right, I'm mocking people these people. It's impossible the Apple Watch will sell as many units as the iPhone.
And how is that relevant? The first iPod was Mac only. At that time, Apple had an installed base of around 25 million Macs. There are well over 100 million iPhones in use today that work with Apple Watch (probably way more, I'm guessing). But really it's about culture. There was no mobile internet really when the first iPod arrived. And we weren't nearly as obsessed with tech as we are today, generally speaking. Pebble and others have been trying to convince us that smart watches are the next big thing for years. And outside of a few million people, no one cares. (Estimated) Apple Watch sales just confirm this. I think the Apple Watch is a gorgeous piece of engineering and a fair piece of jewelry. But none of that changes the fact that the public isn't interested in the category. I hope Apple stops dallying in fashion vanity projects and focuses on areas where I believe there is legitimate potential to make a difference: television, video games, home automation, etc. As crazy as an Apple car sounds, I'm far more enthusiastic about that idea than the watch.
I think there is a bit of selection bias involved in your analysis.
Right, but if anything the bias should be significantly IN FAVOR of the A-watch on this site. It is resoundingly NOT. That may mean nothing, but it suggests to me that this product is in trouble. I guess we'll see
So the Apple Watch, in it's first three months, has already outsold the original iPhone's first three month sales mark by...double. It's also beaten the iPad's first three months sales. And, honestly, I see the Apple Watch looking a lot more like the iPad than an iPhone- it's not a product anyone "needs" like a phone, it's not revolutionary like the iPhone was, just an enhancement to your daily usage and workflow (like the iPad was). Plus the Watch has the extra impediment of only being able to sell to iPhone owners.
I'm not an Apple Watch owner, I'm not even sure whether I'm going to get one in the near future, but...this doesn't look like a flop.
I'm not an Apple Watch owner, I'm not even sure whether I'm going to get one in the near future, but...this doesn't look like a flop.
Not what I meant. How have you judged the overall favor of this site? Obviously not through any objective measurement. I'm guessing you are just going by your feelings based on the posts that you choose to read. That's selection bias on your part.Right, but if anything the bias should be significantly IN FAVOR of the A-watch on this site. It is resoundingly NOT. That may mean nothing, but it suggests to me that this product is in trouble. I guess we'll see
For example, I remember the forums reaction to the iPod and iPad as far more negative than the Apple Watch. But that doesn't mean that it's true.
Different type of product line altogether—iPhone never relied on a companion device for full functionality. Also, when initial sales began to wane, implementing carrier subsidies greatly benefitted the original iPhone. Let's see if Apple pulls out a similar strategy and leverages the watch with mobile carriers or drops the unit price.
Right, but if anything the bias should be significantly IN FAVOR of the A-watch on this site. It is resoundingly NOT. That may mean nothing, but it suggests to me that this product is in trouble. I guess we'll see
The bias on this entire site is anti-Apple, so I don't follow.
It’s not any different of a device now than when it was released. I got mine two weeks ago and I still love it.
I'm not sold on wearables, but I think you're very right. More sensors and a much lower price are required for this technology to broaden its appeal. However, when it comes down to it, most sensors are somehow health related, so wearables are really about convincing people they need to constantly monitor themselves and obsess over personal health data.
I really hope that's not the future. Because in my mind that's just about enabling bad behavior. We all know what it takes to be healthy. There's no great mystery. Unless you're a hard core athlete or have a bonafide medical condition that requires some kind of monitoring, isn't tracking all of our bio data pretty narcissistic? And are people really so lacking in willpower that they need Activity Rings and awards to get them off their rear ends? I don't know. Call me crazy. But I'm more optimistic for our species than that, hence my feeling that wearables won't ever be a mainstream category.
But..but... the marketing geniuses here a MR told us definitely that Apple, by intentionally short supplying the AW, would actually increase sale!
Seriously, how could this not be the case? And have done zero research but seems it mirrors the original iPhone. Huge sales on the top then as early adopters bought in sales slumped until the price was lowered. The iPhone craze really only took hold with the 2nd gen 3G model.
Unforced errors on Apple's part:
1) Overselling it's health aspect
2) Overselling it as fine jewelry and also overpricing it
3) Overmarketing it at the most high end stores on the planet
4) Linking too much of it to the iPhone
4) All of that when the hardware and software just wasn't ready for prime time. It's slow and clunky and devs are still poking in the dark trying to find the sweetspot of what an AW app should do
It's still a good concept but Apple really needs to right the ship with better hardware, faster OS before it gets permanently tagged as a niche geek device. I enjoy mine. Don't care for the interface but love notifications. Ive really needs to simplify it even more though. It's still too complex for a watch.
Seriously, how could this not be the case? And have done zero research but seems it mirrors the original iPhone. Huge sales on the top then as early adopters bought in sales slumped until the price was lowered. The iPhone craze really only took hold with the 2nd gen 3G model.
Unforced errors on Apple's part:
1) Overselling it's health aspect
2) Overselling it as fine jewelry and also overpricing it
3) Overmarketing it at the most high end stores on the planet
4) Linking too much of it to the iPhone
4) All of that when the hardware and software just wasn't ready for prime time. It's slow and clunky and devs are still poking in the dark trying to find the sweetspot of what an AW app should do
It's still a good concept but Apple really needs to right the ship with better hardware, faster OS before it gets permanently tagged as a niche geek device. I enjoy mine. Don't care for the interface but love notifications. Ive really needs to simplify it even more though. It's still too complex for a watch.
I agree. I think the smartwatch in general is an attempt to create a new category of consumer device with a screen, and most people don't have the interest nor financial stamina for another category. We already have TVs, laptops/computers, tablets/ereaders, and smartphones. That's 4 categories, or 4 ways to interact with information. We don't need nor want a 5th.
How is that a fact?
It's my opinion. Like pretty much everything on here. My opinion comes from personal observation, critical thinking, and existing sales data within the category. But you're right. "Fact" was a poor choice of words. Although my opinion is that it's a fact. Nothing has convinced me yet that the broad public is remotely interested in the category. And nothing I've seen, read, or observed regarding the Apple Watch has convinced me that Apple moved the needle at all in the wearables category with its release.